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On 7/3/2023 at 9:29 AM, KhunLA said:

If going to forgive loans, it has to be everyone's, not just one type.  Not just borrowers either, or one sector of customers. 

 

If giving $$$ away, you need to give it to everyone, who paid taxes, as it's their money.

This is the most laughable argument ever. You're basically saying "the government should not be able to pass any laws that result in benefits to anyone unless EVERYONE receives similar benefits". This basically means the government cannot pass any laws affecting the budget. I argued previously about how this would ALSO invalidate the Trump tax cuts (which were substantially larger) and provided the evidence. Have you any rebuttal to that?

On 7/3/2023 at 9:19 AM, Yellowtail said:

Do you have any facts that support your claim about the 1.9 - 2.3 trillion dollar tax cut that disproportionately went to the wealthiest Americans and corporations?

 

I understand how complex this must sound, but tax cuts by definition disproportionately benefit taxpayers. Tax recipients, such as welfare recipients and people reneging/wanting to renege on their student loans generally do not benefit from tax cuts. 

 

To be clear, tax cuts only let the people that actually fund welfare and the student loan keep a little more of their money. 

https://itep.org/faulty-fact-check-on-tax-breaks-for-the-rich-and-corporations/

If you want to look at the article that the pro-Trump guy used to "make his case", this is the link:

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/distributional-analysis-conference-agreement-tax-cuts-and-jobs-act/full

It's pretty clear. Surprised you challenged something that's widely understood to be true.

To those who keep parroting the "if he didn't break the law, he wouldn't be facing this" line...this "law" was put in place by an illegal government who gained power as the result of a coup and then rewrote the "laws" to ensure the perpetuation of their regime. It's as legitimate as a three-dollar bill.

8 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Sack the governor... said it before and keep saying it.

The man in CM has done nothing

You think the Governor of a province has the power to curtail CP Group's corn production? LOL.

On 6/16/2023 at 3:30 AM, h90 said:

And even more the average normal Americans, who are usually nice and helpful and all of them would be better presidents than these two....I can't think of any American I ever met who could be worse than one of these two.

Then you don't get out much or understand anything about what government is or does. What a nonsensical statement! Just look in a mirror.

13 hours ago, jaideedave said:

As a Canadian besides myself there are thousands of citizens leaving every year since the current gov't has taken over.There's more democracy in Thailand even under military rule.Canada has turned into a sh____le.Have a peek at who Canada is importing these days.

https://www.tps.ca/organizational-chart/specialized-operations-command/detective-operations/investigative-services/homicide/most-wanted/

 

LOL! How did you manage to get to Thailand, were you given a special visa for being a dissident? Why aren't you organizing a resistance to the guv'ment that's taken away your rights? Instead you run to Thailand where there are all these OTHER brown people around to threaten your very existence? You seem to be lacking logic.

8 hours ago, Screaming said:

It is obvious that the Move Forward party has socialist leanings and will cater to anyone that will support it. Its all about money in Thailand, nothing else matters.

Well, I thought this transparent bit of propaganda wouldn't fool a child. I guess I was wrong, or are you a child?

43 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

As is usually the rule, if you have to make things up, attack the person, etc., it indicates you cannot form a valid argument.  This appears to be true for you here.

He neither made things up nor "attacked" the person - he pointed out that the person's posting history clearly shows a bias towards the unelected military government. That is relevant in the context of this discussion.

On 5/17/2023 at 7:04 PM, NemoH said:

Go research people. Pita just revealed his coming policies in Thai interview - casinos, legalising n taxing prostitution, abolishing lese majestic n legalising more drugs and more LGBTQ rules just like USA (his dream country) seems like destroying everything in the present Thai society .. build back better ????. 

Go see who Pita and his group are …and who you are supporting -  it could be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire … 

You mean the guys who overwhelmingly were chosen by people in an election where the incumbent had all the advantages and are still trying to invalidate the result? The people saw who he was, and saw very clearly who the other people who stole power the last 8 years and are still trying to do so are and chose. That's democracy. You don't seem to like it. No wonder, your views reveal that you're similarly Mesozoic in your opinion. By the way, you're aware that it was the incumbent government who legalized the drugs, right?

You're an old man shaking his fist and yelling at the kids to get off his lawn.

23 hours ago, h90 said:

I don't know if you have been here during Thaksin but it was by far the worst.....I recall when he wanted to take over the sky train and as they didn't want to sale he ranted in TV that he'll buy a subway direct under them with the station next to it to bankrupt them. Or the contract with cleaning the new airport, paid in advance for many years. (On the other hand he was the only one who could finish the airport....beside being the most corrupt he was also the most efficient premier)

So you agree? You're all over the place. What was the "worst"? The corruption? Are you sure? Corruption tends not to provide receipts. Do you think the Army opens their books so you can compare the two? 

8 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

It will be interesting to see how hard the new government led by Pita goes after the outgoing government for their crimes. No better way to prevent future coups than to lock up the perpetrators of the last coup.

Exactly! And it has happened exactly zero times, hence there have ALWAYS been future coups.

If you think the new government is going to "go after" the outgoing government you have exactly zero understanding of Thai politics.

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

What flavour...?

A new one, smells of almonds. 

6 hours ago, crouchpeter said:

Peasant food is the sort of food people like you eat at home.....simple, cheap, unpleasant and tasteless. As for spelling city names, the only correct spelling would be written in Khmer script.

People like me? Oh, do tell! What am I like? Why would you assume I like simple, cheap, unpleasant and tasteless food? I mean, I moved to Southeast Asia, not exactly the hub of glop.

Actually, why would you think that the food of the peasants is that way at all? The "peasants" would be the people of the North, Northeast and rural areas in the Central and South. Their food would almost never be described as "tasteless", most would say it's extremely spicy. I enjoy it immensely.

Oh, and you're a bit of a purist when it comes to spelling, preferring to use only the native script or, when you deign to discuss things with "peasants", your own transliteration which I guess must be "above" the likes of us. What an interesting fellow you must be, to be so far above us yet an admirer of the Scouse.
 

2 hours ago, Joe Farang said:

She sounds as if she is nothing other than an attention seeking social media slave.

 

On another note, I must remember to never greet my friend Jack at an airport.

No, but if you see him and like his outfit, you should say "Jack! Wow!"

1 hour ago, crouchpeter said:

Most meals in Cambodia are peasant food. Sometimes, Siem Reap not bad, and I went to a new sushi restaurant in Pnom Pen, but the waitress had decayed front teeth! Some ok French restaurants in Vientiane and even Leffe beer.

Really? I guess you have to tell us what you describe as "peasant food", because Phnom Penh is pretty similar to any major city in Asia in that there's quite a wide range of different restaurants and it's really up to you as to what you like to eat. Your inability to spell the city name doesn't speak well of your standing in terms of knowledge. Vientiane is a great city for food, you won't find better value in the region. Superb French, excellent Italian, and at ridiculously low prices. Easiest city to get around in the region too.

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

How was any of that deflection and avoidance ??...    Perhaps the Finn was triggered by being over-charged which may explain his initial anger and trigger for his abusive response....

Oh, sorry, I was referring to the poster 2009 not to the Forked-Up Finn.

9 minutes ago, 2009 said:

What a place, eh?

 

Imagine being on either side of that conflict over 10 baht.

 

For me though, the most interesting part is what alcohol was he buying for 70 baht.

 

I still wanna know if he just didn't want to pay full price or if he was getting the farang price.

 

Thai beer isn't that much in those shops. Was it Lao Kao?

LOL. Moved on to deflection and avoidance now, have we? Predictable for your sort.

Tell us again about how the Finn was minding his own business and got attacked. Let's keep to the topic shall we?

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

You got a lot of prejudice, dude.

 

And you think your the good guy in the equation, jeez.

 

You can hang out with low lives all you want.

No, not prejudice, just a lot of observational experience. It won't surprise you to find there's actually a statistical correlation. But that is not the topic of this thread.

That you consider Thai villagers to be "low lives" tells me everything about your point of view. I have always and continue to work at village level and I love it. You get the full range of people at village level, it's not that much different from the city. In fact, you're surrounded by them every day if you live in Bangkok. I don't understand why you live here if you think so poorly of the Thai.

3 hours ago, 2009 said:

You feel comfortable living with such people??

 

You make them sound like savages the way you describe them.

 

Well, don't come crying to us when you accidentally bump into someone and end up getting a gun pulled on you. 

 

That actually happened to me in Isaan at a family gathering and the bloke was related. He held the grudge for months before confronting me. ????

 

These people are just one slight away from trying to end your life. 

 

And once you get to know their "culture" you'll know that even the way they treat their own family is deplorable. A lot of neglect and abuse goes in these villages. They are so out of touch with reality.

 

We've all read on the news relatives or best friends killing each other over a beer or small family matter when their ego get bruised. It happens in these kinds of places.

Yes, I do. I've never had a gun pulled on me, any violence threatened, anything stolen...over 30 years in the region. Wonder why? As to your "way they treat their own family", it very much depends on the family, and that usually can be seen via how you met your wife and where. My wife's family are amazing, far less trouble and drama than my own, they help us and we help them.

And I was trying hard to avoid this but...if we're to take your avatar seriously, you're an American and a Conservative at the very least. Therefore you are likely in the "pry my gun from my cold dead hands" kinda demographic. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but it is highly likely you're big on the 2nd amendment. Just this week a kid who got lost in the neighbourhood got two bullets pumped into him after ringing a doorbell, and a woman who got lost and turned around in a driveway got shot dead by the owner. I'm not even talking about the half dozen or so mass shooting events in the last two weeks. Older white American gentlemen killing innocent people for no reason whatsoever. So take your "Well, don't come crying to us when you accidentally bump into someone and end up getting a gun pulled on you." and stick it where the sun don't shine.

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

What I am saying is: what they did was WAY over the top and in no way justifiable. 

 

They could have just called him a name back in return. No need for violence.

 

You don't seem to comprehend this. Why are you condoning and justifying thug behavior?

I live in the region in these people's country, therefore I accept their standards and norms prevail, not mine. I understand their culture and language, so I act with respect and don't deliberately say things that will anger them because I understand that "face" is extremely important to these people. If I am living as a guest in their village, then I will be much more careful, especially if I haven't bothered to make any effort to speak the language, form relationships with the locals or otherwise adapt to my new environment.

This drunken idiot who has already worn out his welcome in the village came over during a party and insulted his neighbours. They reacted the way anyone who lives here and understands the culture knew they would. Whether you or I believe the violence disproportionate is irrelevant. It was also inevitable at that point.

11 minutes ago, 2009 said:

No, I believe he said the word, "buffalo" as the news says.

 

I'll be waiting here for you to justify the 10 man beating. Go ahead.

Oh, so suddenly you are saying he DID provoke these people? I don't believe you mentioned that previously. In fact, you said