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  1. this gov is liable to pay the outstanding with interest(interest rates same as credit cards companies are charging, over 20%) and then some other ways need to be found to support the farmers.

    Thinking of some Western countries where they pay farmers not to grow certain crops or animals. Now that would come in handy for Thai people ... I think they will be good at that.

    Encourage sufficiency policy and no overgrowing with mono cultures. Landscaping could be another additional theme to work out. There're so many ways to solve these problems in the right way ...

  2. Shut up and pay them then.

    That was my first thought when reading the headline. I suspect, however, that it is not as easy as it sounds, and that perhaps there are forces at work in which the PM has no power over, nor to compel to do what she is saying.

    Additionally, I understand that Thais will not (generally speaking) come right out and say what the obstruction is to a problem, as it leads to uncomfortable and inconvenient circumstances, which in turn create further chaos and obstructions to the original problem at hand.

    My point being that I suspect she is really saying that she is aware that paying them is not the problem, but that the problem is forces at work which are deliberately withholding payments in order to further other causes at the expense of these people... and she really has no control over that matter.

    I prefer playing with open cards, 'cause it ain't a game.

  3. sure, there's a large offer from 'economical hit-men' and Thaskin is employed by them. Many strings attached and no way to funnel the money legally into the Thai banking system. This why they dried them out completely. IT WAS/IS ON PURPOSE!!! - so to increase extortion and pressure on the nation. DISGUSTING!

    But at the end they all will fail.

    Stay strong farmers, don't give away even an inch from your land.

  4. maybe marksmen for the fortuneteller Chalerm to make his dreams come true? He predicted attacks on a daily base ...

    ... and it was all ok in Myanmar when thousands of monks protested and no outcry of farangs with "song sai" - double minded?

    these cops should have been at the nearby flyovers, buildings etc. to prevent outside attacks ...

  5. 10million baht to be raised in today's march there must be some very wealthy people on that particular route that is a huge amount of 20,50 and 100 baht notes who will account for what goes into Suthep's pocket and the farmers pockets !!!

    Why should anything go into Sutheps pocket. Just another ignorant sick TV post. Personally I would willingly give him some money to help the farmers.

    Why don't you give him money then? Nobody is stopping you!!!

    And the money isn't really to help the farmers. The money is to support the farmers doing a protest in Bangkok.

    Sent from my GT-I9152 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

    over 1000 complaints have been filed so far. The mo9ney is used to cover legal expenses ...

  6. I hope that the farmers get paid soon. This is Bulls*&t, leaving the farmers hanging like this, after promising them the money for their rice, to be paid last October.

    If not for the current political impasse, I'm fairly certain that payments would have been forthcoming. As it is, the caretaker govt's hands are tied and no one has any solution other than saying that they should have been paid already (which incidentally, is NOT a solution).

    Some will undoubtedly say that the simplest solution is for YL to resign and magically, everything will be fine again. Unfortunately, it is not as simple as that. This is a high stakes game and only a naive child would think that that is a feasible solution.

    no, YS jumped right into dissolving the gov after some little pressure at the beginning. Before you didn't hear any squeaking about reforms from her. Obviously the rice pledging scam was one reason to get it under the carpet this way and blame the protesters and whosever for it. In fact she's an acting economical hit-man for her brother, isn't she?

    When you listen to her statements about the payments she speaks only "they get money" (how much?) and not "their money". - Disgusting at least ...

    Anyone involved in that scam should be personal liable for the mess they created with (high) interests and fines (take a look at the tablet contract and use the same %/day on them). - Just to teach them an everlasting lesson ...

  7. One thing I always wonder, are this "giant firecrackers" what is usually called a pipe bomb in other places?

    I mean, giant firecracker evokes memories of Tom & Jerry cartoons, but this things kill and maim.

    this kind of giant fire crackers are in use in Chanagmai since over three decades and not always for peaceful means. Clandestine groups are using it on an almost daily base.

  8. Photoshopped? There's a white line around her head.

    The image does look Photoshopped, but she was there at the opening ceremonies. The other Thai athlete carried the flag, and she followed in trace. In the Olympics, though, she is competing as Vanessa Vanakorn.

    The other Thai athlete is Kanes Suchanritakul, an alpine skier.

    no, it's not photo shopped. It's the reflection of flood light while the others a little blurred out so that you can't see the same effect as it makes on her.

  9. And if these farmers are so broke why are they not out helping on other farms and doing other work for 300 baht a day. Construction laborer or something. Plenty of work around.

    So they can afford not to work and come to Bangkok and protest and then moan they cannot feed their kids.......................... HELLO..............try working instead of protesting, you get money with working...........or perhaps they are getting paid to protest ? giggle.gif

    All in my opinion of course.

    Did you even understand what that lady said? Have you ever been in one of those villages where almost all people in then same situation and no jobs?

    The purpose to run the poorest with little land dry is to grab their land for a control freak in Dubai and for his handlers from a shadow gov. In my books it's against sufficiency policy of HMK and therefore a kind of Les Majesty.

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  10. You can't blame moonao. He has no doubt invested a lot of emotion and time in defending a regime that eventually not only turned their back on him, but the farmers that voted for the regime as well.

    Simple replies like "Kangaroo court" highlights a frustration that I can only imagine means "The facts are overwhelming, but I still love em so will lazily say something that does not really defend them, but at least I got my 2 words in!"

    To me it is like a white flag being held up in a bunker while saying "Charge"!

    On a different note - The rule of law does not bode well for criminals and demonizing is the last resort of a criminal on the run. In this case the demonizing of the courts suits an agenda for the uneducated. The sad thing is, like a rush of wind carrying garbage through a shadowy ravine, the criminal carries rhetoric in on a breeze of dictatorial rule that the gullible swallow like a tablet given by a concerned mother to her first born.

    We can only pity Thaksin's supporters. We know better. They should. The question is how can we make them understand that 15 principles of democracy are what counts? Not 1.

    I thought one tablet for all politicians (paracetamol) should be in order now, especially for the PTP wink.png

  11. Oh my, firstly if you have money in a registered Thai bank there is a depositors insurance on it. Secondly the amount that the government wanted to borrow is small compared to the Thai banks balance sheets. Thirdly this whole not have money to pay for the rice is a political plan to get rid of the government. Thailand collects +- B 300 bn in taxes every month which is enough to cover the rice and other costs. The traditional elites are using their network in the civil service to prevent payment for the rice from tax income and create more pressure on YS. As soon as the crises is over the funds will appear from thin air to pay for the rice. But then the big one hits the world economy it will be different. For example the Fdic have $ 41 bn in funds to cover $ 9 tn in deposits. The EU passed the laws needed for bail ins, so if a bank runs into problems they will not get bailed out by the EU but by the depositors, the Cyprus scenario. Shaky indeed.

    so why didn't they pay in October? in many cases outstanding dates back many more months. So what was/is the real purpose? - Land crabbing I guess like with the so unprofessional handling of the dams in 2011. Note the the irrigation issue is closely monitored and observed and under royal patronage and has it's guidelines all over the walls. Was it ignored on purpose? Corporate globalists, like Thaksin as a henchman, don't like sufficiency policies. They want total control.

    Two weeks ago I was talking to a CP chicken farmer. It's their last year because of Thaksin's taking over(proxy), - so was I told. I brushed it away, just to find out a week later that Singha beer (large bottles) is banned at 7/11. Staff told us that they can't make order for more than two weeks now.

    Sorry but your post about CP and 7 doesn't make any sense. CP is one of the biggest companies in Thailand and YS doesn't have any shares in it. CP however control 7/11 and it could be that because of their high gearing ratio they are experiencing cash flow problems. Do research about CP and about its owner, the richest man in the country and about 50th in the world.

    Do you think the process of taking over Thailand started in November? This coup has been planned since the day PT won the 2011 election. The EC prevented bonds to be issued to pay the farmers, although the farmers must be paid according to law. The Agri bank have refused to pay the farmers although they have the money and wanted to borrow the farmers money at 7% per annum.

    PT is corrupt but the PDRC, Dems and elites are the same same.

    There're things going on in the background which are not public yet.

    Can you do us favor and check a few 7/11 if you can get large Singha bottles? In my neighborhood they are only present with second class products that sell not that good, like cans and small bottles, very small.

    I met that person during a funeral in the South and was introduced to me with the family name of the ones you try to get me to research. I was not verifying the name, but the chicken farm is huge.

    Later on I visited a farm that runs under sufficiency policy. I thought I was in a great resort. From coffee to various kind of fruits and vegetables. Big artificial lakes in the village to absorb flood water. Water sprinklers everywhere.

  12. Suthep strikes again.

    is cancer subject to public opinions or votes, or is it better to trust a surgeon who does a surgical cut? Even then in most cases the patient can or will die. Lets all hope that it isn't too late.

    Why blame the surgeons and not the cancer with all it's metastases?

    As the medics said at the US Embassy

    Indonesia has volcanos

    The Philippines has earthquake

    Thailand has Yingluck wink.png

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  13. Oh my, firstly if you have money in a registered Thai bank there is a depositors insurance on it. Secondly the amount that the government wanted to borrow is small compared to the Thai banks balance sheets. Thirdly this whole not have money to pay for the rice is a political plan to get rid of the government. Thailand collects +- B 300 bn in taxes every month which is enough to cover the rice and other costs. The traditional elites are using their network in the civil service to prevent payment for the rice from tax income and create more pressure on YS. As soon as the crises is over the funds will appear from thin air to pay for the rice. But then the big one hits the world economy it will be different. For example the Fdic have $ 41 bn in funds to cover $ 9 tn in deposits. The EU passed the laws needed for bail ins, so if a bank runs into problems they will not get bailed out by the EU but by the depositors, the Cyprus scenario. Shaky indeed.

    so why didn't they pay in October? in many cases outstanding dates back many more months. So what was/is the real purpose? - Land crabbing I guess like with the so unprofessional handling of the dams in 2011. Note the the irrigation issue is closely monitored and observed and under royal patronage and has it's guidelines all over the walls. Was it ignored on purpose? Corporate globalists, like Thaksin as a henchman, don't like sufficiency policies. They want total control.

    Two weeks ago I was talking to a CP chicken farmer. It's their last year because of Thaksin's taking over(proxy), - so was I told. I brushed it away, just to find out a week later that Singha beer (large bottles) is banned at 7/11. Staff told us that they can't make order for more than two weeks now.

  14. They (northerners) are not protesting because the UDD are intimidation them and not letting them practice that principle of democracy.

    http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNU1EazVNamczTUE9PQ%3D%3D&sectionid=TURVd01BPT0%3D

    Interesting, thanks for sharing.

    yes, it's true. Not everywhere, but most of the villages people get/got intimidated. When they were here in Bangkok the reds set up "hong muet" (dark rooms) to beat and torture their own, according to an organizer who managed 5000 from a province for Bangkok. They were afraid to get interrupted by their own people.

    This can eventually be verified, but nobody is really interested.

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