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Christ... They are POLICE! You know right? They have not only the right, but also the duty to investigate to prevent crimes or whatever.

Ok, I understand, not much to discuss here... Thanks for your opinion. I know you better now

They are not police!! they are people that like to dress up in uniforms in order to extort money from as many sources as possible!!!

Don't say to me - prove it!!

Oh well, if that's respect you have for them, you can go to tell them in their face. I am sure they will be glad to explain you one thing or two...

-end of debate-

Hahaha I did that one time. Roadside pull over for standard extortion of 300 baht. Refused to pay, and did not speak a word of Thai to anyone. I was ushered into the office of the ranking policeman, who then proceeded to tell my Thai girlfriend in Thai that I was a bad farang, and that I had a dog mouth. That was enough for me. I stood up, and told him in Thai that he was nothing more than the mafia, and that all the Thai people hated them because of their theft from the common Thai person. His face turned bright red, the police standing next to him had their jaws hanging down, and then he started throwing things from his desk.

My girlfriend quietly said it was time for me to leave, and that she would take care of it. She paid the 300 baht and we left. So is that confrontational enough for you ??? One of the many many reasons why I dislike the Thai police.

You continue to live in Thailand and respect institutions, if that's your style. Not my problem.

Be sure that will lead you to troubles sooner or later, not just here in Thailand though.

I had my problem with policemen too, but not for that I wish for any of them to be beaten up on the street. Different style. A lot different.

And, if you don't mind, I think we know already we have total different opinion, not much more to say.

" PDRC leader Suthep Thaugsuban claimed the government had something to do with all the attacks last night against the anti-government movement. "

Finally, someone who has the guts to state what's on everyone's mind.

To claim government has something to do with violence, means government is so idiot to need Army step in and make a coup. At least not smart.

The picture of those 2 on the bed look hilarious.

Hope someone won't ever laugh watching a picture of you beaten and hospitalized.

RT@Lerlaforever: Suthep: A police undercover was caught within the protest site, got beaten, and blamed us for doing that.

End of investigation and silly speculations.

I see it in a different way: the journailst made a good job in doing questions that the prone Thai "journalists" would never make. And I am not talking just about this case, but about "interviews" made by Thai media to both sides personalities.

The fact that the guy on stage became irritated is because he could never think that the journalist he invited to interview him could make some light on some controversial point... Became nervous, irritated, angry and cut the interview...

I did not see any foul question, but only someone so self confident, losing it all because the questions were more smart than he expected.

Here you can find the full interview that shows journalist DID NOT start with Yingluck question.

http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/flambuoyant-duelling-heart-thailands-protests/26695

And let's keep in mind Channel 4 is an independent source news.

Does channel 4 broadcast interviews done by Thai journalists?

The problem is simply that the viewers will only see this broadcast and not the full picture. Therefore it's not good journalism.

The blog you linked does not say anything about the interview being longer than what was show on video.

News sources can be independent and still fail to report accurately.

Look the video in the blog. It's the full interview footage, I cannot link the video directly here.

By the way, I respect your opinion but just don't agree

What is your opinion about what is good journalism? is it that it's ok for journalists to not explain anything and to slam people they don't agree with?

The video on the blog you linked to has a length of 3 minutes 58, which is actually shorter than the video posted at the beginning of this thread.

I don't want to insist. I don't think you looked at the video I told you.

The original video have part of speaker in studio, images from protests and so on... The interview cut was around 2'

In the video I pointed you too, and not sure if you watched it, the whole footage (almost 4 minutes) is the interview. So you can listen all questions and answers. That can't be done in the news cut video.

Good journalism is not to make questions that interviewed prepared before and try to dig deep in what we want to know from him.

I can't understand what you demand actually. Should have been him interview a Shinawatra for tie the interview point of view?

I don't think that is the point actually. And please note I am balanced, for me both sides should be rotten in hell.

But if you cheer for the Suthep side so I can understand your reaction, and again, I still respect you but not agree.

The piece wasn't an ANTI protest, but just ask some SMART questions to the leader. IMHO.

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the broadcast deliberately portrays the claims of the pink and blue clad speaker as lunatic, completely avoiding looking behind the scenes to know if what he said actually made sense or not.

the journalist is not doing his job properly. Journalists should at first help interviewees to explain their point instead of confronting them.

Only once the opinion has been clearly explained, the journalist can confront them with facts and other opinions to collect statements from the interviewees about that.

I see it in a different way: the journailst made a good job in doing questions that the prone Thai "journalists" would never make. And I am not talking just about this case, but about "interviews" made by Thai media to both sides personalities.

The fact that the guy on stage became irritated is because he could never think that the journalist he invited to interview him could make some light on some controversial point... Became nervous, irritated, angry and cut the interview...

I did not see any foul question, but only someone so self confident, losing it all because the questions were more smart than he expected.

Here you can find the full interview that shows journalist DID NOT start with Yingluck question.

http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/flambuoyant-duelling-heart-thailands-protests/26695

And let's keep in mind Channel 4 is an independent source news.

Does channel 4 broadcast interviews done by Thai journalists?

The problem is simply that the viewers will only see this broadcast and not the full picture. Therefore it's not good journalism.

The blog you linked does not say anything about the interview being longer than what was show on video.

News sources can be independent and still fail to report accurately.

Look the video in the blog. It's the full interview footage, I cannot link the video directly here.

By the way, I respect your opinion but just don't agree

Christ... They are POLICE! You know right? They have not only the right, but also the duty to investigate to prevent crimes or whatever.

Ok, I understand, not much to discuss here... Thanks for your opinion. I know you better now

They are not police!! they are people that like to dress up in uniforms in order to extort money from as many sources as possible!!!

Don't say to me - prove it!!

Oh well, if that's respect you have for them, you can go to tell them in their face. I am sure they will be glad to explain you one thing or two...

-end of debate-

That's very democratic - not allowing me a right of reply. well tough luck, I'm not finished yet.

I would like to hold a straw poll with the question being:

Do you respect the Thai police?

End of debate on my side, don't play the troll.

And yes I respect police. I live in a foreign country and respect institution and police. What about you?

Who cares? They shouldn't have been spying on people - if someone was snooping around your house would you like it!!!

Let them play their childish games, just act a bit more professionally next time!!

Knowing the intelligence of the Thai constabulary they were probably dressed in uniform and going around taking pictures and making notes!!

Christ... They are POLICE! You know right? They have not only the right, but also the duty to investigate to prevent crimes or whatever.

Ok, I understand, not much to discuss here... Thanks for your opinion. I know you better now

They are not police!! they are people that like to dress up in uniforms in order to extort money from as many sources as possible!!!

Don't say to me - prove it!!

Oh well, if that's respect you have for them, you can go to tell them in their face. I am sure they will be glad to explain you one thing or two...

-end of debate-

What is all this nonsense about - a few coppers getting a few taps for being a bit naughty and rather un-clever.

There are far more important issues in Thailand at the moment!!

Read the first 2 replies to the OP, do you agree with who cheers the beating and tell is what the 2 guys deserved because the actions of other policemen at Japanese Thai Stadium?

Who cares? They shouldn't have been spying on people - if someone was snooping around your house would you like it!!!

Let them play their childish games, just act a bit more professionally next time!!

Knowing the intelligence of the Thai constabulary they were probably dressed in uniform and going around taking pictures and making notes!!

Christ... They are POLICE! You know right? They have not only the right, but also the duty to investigate to prevent crimes or whatever.

Ok, I understand, not much to discuss here... Thanks for your opinion. I know you better now

Yes the news is impartial and the worst journalism ever. These guys were probably were involved with a bar fight with some ladies and got their @ss kicked. So they made up this story. So before anyone jump to any conclusion, let's the investigation complete first.

One thing is wait investigation and one thing is cheer because some policeman (or anyone else) was beaten and deserved it.

It's vile and disgusting, whichever side are you on.

What is all this nonsense about - a few coppers getting a few taps for being a bit naughty and rather un-clever.

There are far more important issues in Thailand at the moment!!

Read the first 2 replies to the OP, do you agree with who cheers the beating and tell is what the 2 guys deserved because the actions of other policemen at Japanese Thai Stadium?

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the broadcast deliberately portrays the claims of the pink and blue clad speaker as lunatic, completely avoiding looking behind the scenes to know if what he said actually made sense or not.

the journalist is not doing his job properly. Journalists should at first help interviewees to explain their point instead of confronting them.

Only once the opinion has been clearly explained, the journalist can confront them with facts and other opinions to collect statements from the interviewees about that.

I see it in a different way: the journailst made a good job in doing questions that the prone Thai "journalists" would never make. And I am not talking just about this case, but about "interviews" made by Thai media to both sides personalities.

The fact that the guy on stage became irritated is because he could never think that the journalist he invited to interview him could make some light on some controversial point... Became nervous, irritated, angry and cut the interview...

I did not see any foul question, but only someone so self confident, losing it all because the questions were more smart than he expected.

Here you can find the full interview that shows journalist DID NOT start with Yingluck question.

http://blogs.channel4.com/world-news-blog/flambuoyant-duelling-heart-thailands-protests/26695

And let's keep in mind Channel 4 is an independent source news.

Yes the news is impartial and the worst journalism ever. These guys were probably were involved with a bar fight with some ladies and got their @ss kicked. So they made up this story. So before anyone jump to any conclusion, let's the investigation complete first.

One thing is wait investigation and one thing is cheer because some policeman (or anyone else) was beaten and deserved it.

It's vile and disgusting, whichever side are you on.

Respect forum rules and go on the right thread, I will be glad to reply you...

and where is the right thread?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/696466-video-special-bangkok-shutdown-protesters-fill-streets-of-thai-capital

And this video

Well, the journalists should watch the other video

before making their broadcasts.

Ok, whatever... You got the spirit of my post.

Of course the foreigner journalist were inept to make questions on the stage that no any other Thai journalist dared to make.

Great contribute!

Anyway we're derailing off topic, and I would love to close the matter here

well, let's not close off so quickly - the broadcast deliberately portrays the claims of the pink and blue clad speaker as lunatic, completely avoiding looking behind the scenes to know if what he said actually made sense or not.

Respect forum rules and go on the right thread, I will be glad to reply you...

And this video

Well, the journalists should watch the other video

before making their broadcasts.

Ok, whatever... You got the spirit of my post.

Of course the foreigner journalist were inept to make questions on the stage that no any other Thai journalist dared to make.

Great contribute!

Anyway we're derailing off topic, and I would love to close the matter here

I will leave it here.

Too many comments to the OP are just disgusting and not worth of civil discussion.

I wonder your parents which education gave to you all...

It is perhaps too much to expect Khaosod to interview both sides of a story - a journalistic practice that predates Khaosod considerably. From this, we have one side, a gruesome story - told by the policemen involved - and gruesome pictures to match. But what is the full story ? A full story does not, incidentally, imply justification for violence. There is no justification for violence. What it does is it asks impassioned questions like - what exactly happened ? From what is printed here, there are legitimate questions that ought to be addressed. Let's address some of them here :

1. The fact that they were described as detectives suggests that they were in casual attire.

2. The men admitted that they came on the orders of the police department.

3. They claimed to be collecting evidence. What " evidence " would one be collecting at Lumpini park at 11 at night ? Had it been the scene of a crime that had previously taken place ? If so, why wasn't that released to the press ? Why wasn't it released by the police ? Why were they incognito ? Why wasn't a police detail sent to investigate in the clear light of day instead ? Why wouldn't they tell Khaosod what the evidence they were collecting was ? Or if that was " top secret ", why wouldn't they tell that to Khaosod instead ?

But then, once must inevitably pose questions to the journalistic practices of Khaosod, as shown in this story's coverage :

1. Did you pose any of these legitimate questions to these men ? And if not, why not ?

2. Would you consider - at some point in the future - a policy of interviewing the other side of this story ? But be careful here. The next question is the zinger -

If not, why not ?

It's not just Kaosod, it's all the Thai press. Look any article of the opposite side The Nation, or any interview from BlueSky.

What were they doing there? Did they identify themselves? Where were they? Wandering around the crowd, or around the back of the stage?

I think they not there for protect people...

So it was good to beat them up, correct?

Double post.

And this video

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This is just the start of the violence.

And the yellow shirts will have to remember that they've brought it on themselves.

They are a minority trying to impose unelected rulers that will represent the interests of the Bangkok elite onto the poor majority.

The funny thing is that the poor uneducated naive southern rubber farmers (to say the least) don't get it

All those supporting Suthep and the Dems must be real dreamers

Sent from my iPhone...

Things will not have an end until will have a so deep polarization and team against team.

We foreigner can just observe and give opinions, ideas, but some of posters here seem a yellow or red hooligans. Too much passion wasted for two groups of crooks, corrupt and manipulating politicians.

Baa...... humbug.

Well, if the suspects are guilty, they deserve jail term and shame on them.

And I am so glad that someone on the forum already knows they are red shirts and paid by Thaksin... Narrow minded who doesn't know anything except red and yellow.

Don't get too up-tight about what someone knows, as you can rest assured it wasn't at the behest of the fugitive via one of his brown-nosing followers, just ask any of them - "we know nothing"

I just pity on all the yellow and red sheep on this forum. That's all.