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7 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well what's happened to a 83 year old lady who had been the Queens closest lady in waiting I bet there's some getting the voodoo dolls ready. ????

Revenge is a dish best served cold - so maybe the voodoo dolls are in the fridge on ice. I am sure she is a member of the WI and they cover just about everything in their talks.

It seems that in the past year or so they had funding from BLM.

However in previous years Fulani also had funding from the Prince's Trust. Seems she might go to the highest bidder.

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

So if I say you look great today and you find it offensive, then I was being offensive?

 

Get a grip of yourself. Seriously, have a sit down for 5 minutes. I'm starting to think this is a troll account.

He might think you're being sarcastic ! 

Just now, ozimoron said:

There were first hand witnesses. always regarded as credible in any court of law.

Who are the witnesses or is it simply hearsay?

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

Very interesting

British sarcasm in this context -

"I can absolutely see you are from the East end of London."

Translated for non- Brits "I never would have guessed you were from the East end of London in a million years"

"I absolutely adore your accent".

Translated for non- Brits " every sound that exits your mouth sounds like fingernails going down a blackboard"

"Your outfit is simply so unique and colourful"

Translated " You seem to have had a power outage while you were choosing your clothes and you certainly don't own a mirror."

" Your eyes look very green today" (context - it's St. Patrick's day----> I take offence because I think he's suggesting I'm an Irish nationalist)

" You are looking a bit pale today"  (context - I think she is using this as a traditional British understatement, therefore I take offence because she probably means I look like death warmed up!)

"That colour suits you sooooo.... well " (context - I think she is being sarcastic (another great British trait) , so she really means I look terrible, somewhat resembling a Xmas tree-----> result = I take offence) 

So if I want to play the victim I guess it pretty much depends on me. Victimhood is starting to look like a profession !

"Why do we take Offence?

One of the most common reasons people take offense is insecurity. Insecurities are based on one's self-concept, ideas and feelings about self (Coon & Mitterer, 2009). When the self-concept is challenged, one will question perceptions of self and insecurities ensue."

https://www.sagu.edu/thoughthub/the-psychology-of-offense/

So basically we have to pander to people's insecurities. 

Nobody seems to know how she can remember the conversation verbatim. The first place it appeared seems to be her Twitter account. There are a number of people suggesting she wore a microphone, which seems possible, otherwise how would she remember the whole conversation.

3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Where was your link? If you want to challenge common sense at least provide a link.

I provided links at the bottom of the quotes.

It seems a long conversation to memorise . Do we know where the transcript came from, was she being recorded?

1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:

And when she opened her mouth and spoke in an East End accent? 

Is Lady SH soooo posh as to not get a very common London accent?

I can pull off a Thai accent but they still ask me "where are you from?"

I know I am not the only one, many of my friends have lived here a long time or were even born here.

The difference being , this is Thailand , you laugh about it and make jokes, it brightens up everyone's day.

Here we actually talk about the elephant in the room "I don't look Thai" , well that is because my ancestry is not Thai, same as this woman's ancestry is not British. It's really quite simple , there is no reason to get offended.

In the UK you get someone fired, demand an apology and say you feel abused. 

Different world!

Just because I am challenging a story about one woman who happens to be black it doesn't make me racist. If I were a man would that make me sexist too?

They are now campaigning for Valerie’s Law, which advocates for mandatory Cultural Competency training that accounts for the cultural nuances and barriers, colloquialisms, languages and customs that make up the diverse black community. Valerie’s Law aims to enable police officers, relevant government agencies and domestic violence safehouses staff to acknowledge and protect black women in abusive situations through an understanding. 

https://bootstrapcharity.com/blog/meet-sistah-space/

11 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

The link I posted which you clearly didn't read specifically said they give anyone free assistance including goods. You're sole motive was always to demean Ngozi, clearly racist.

They talk again and again, both on the link and their own website, about being set up for African heritage and black women:

SISTAH SPACE IS A COMMUNITY-BASED NON-PROFIT INITIATIVE CREATED TO BRIDGE THE GAP IN DOMESTIC ABUSE SERVICES FOR AFRICANHERITAGE WOMEN AND GIRLS.

THE SISTAH SPACE IS A SPECIALIST CHARITY THAT SUPPORTS AFRICAN & CARIBBEAN HERITAGE WOMEN AFFECTED BY DOMESTIC AND SEXUAL ABUSE, UK WIDE.

FOUNDED AS A RESPONSE TO THE TRAGIC MURDER OF VALERIE FORDE AND HER 22-MONTH OLD DAUGHTER 'BABY RJ’ WERE BY VALERIE'S EX-PARTNER (AND BABY RJ'S FATHER) IN 2014. THIS CATASTROPHIC EVENT HIGHLIGHTED THE NEED FOR AN ORGANISATION TO TACKLE DOMESTIC ABUSE IN AFRICAN HERITAGE FAMILIES AND WAS THE CATALYST FOR THE CREATION OF SISTAH SPACE.

THROUGH THEIR EXPERTISE IN PROVIDING SUPPORT AROUND DOMESTIC & SEXUAL ABUSE, SISTAH SPACE ADDRESSES THE SPECIFIC NEEDS OF AFRICAN & CARIBBEAN HERITAGE SURVIVORS OF ABUSE BY TACKLING THE INTERSECTIONALITY OF RACISM AND GENDER BASED VIOLENCE.

https://www.sistahspace.org/about-us

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

You can at least be decent enough to admit that you were wrong to suggest the charity only supports black women and that you only did it to demean Ngozi.

 

Also acknowledge a link I posted in which SS said their charity shop and free assistance is open to everyone.

Ngozi seems pretty capable of demeaning herself, she doesn't need my help.  It's there in her own words that she created the charity for black women. 

Of course the charity shop is open to everyone - anyone can walk into a charity shop and buy stuff. I have no idea what free assistance might be , it could be a leaflet or website which anyone can access.

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No, I meant precisely the words I said and only the words I used. Evidence that they would refuse assistance to any woman will suffice.

 

All those here leaping to attack Ngozi for running a charity which they claim only helps black women should back their BS up or back off.

Then maybe they should alter the description of their charity to be more inclusive!

Quote from Ngozi "“We see this with the anniversary memorial of Sarah Everard, which is all over the media, and the brief mention of Nessa, who’s a teacher that was murdered. There’s only mention of white and brown women in the media, and a total disregard for black women, hence the need to create Sistah Space.”, explains Ngozi."

https://bootstrapcharity.com/blog/meet-sistah-space/

Let's face it she couldn't be clearer! She basically says that she created it for black women!

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

No, I meant precisely the words I said and only the words I used. Evidence that they would refuse assistance to any woman will suffice.

If a charity is set up that helps army veterans and says so in it's charity description, you can pretty much bet it only helps army veterans. Whether they have helped the odd person who is not an army veteran is pretty much irrelevant as they were set up to help army veterans and quite clearly state that.  The same would be said of a charity that is set up to help those that are black and/or of African heritage

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Incorrect, I categorically refute that I accept they only help black women. Your reading comprehension skills are lacking. 

 

I have insisted on a link establishing that Sistah Space only helps black people but it seems that nobody on the right here understands English.

So in other words they might help white South Africans and Indians from the African continent or the Caribbean?

However they do seem to use the terms "African heritage" and "black" interchangeably.

Quote

MEET SISTAH SPACE: HELPING BLACK WOMEN SUFFERING DOMESTIC ABUSE

Sistah Space are a community-based non-profit initiative created to bridge the gap in domestic abuse services for African heritage women and girls. They offer services such as advice, advocacy, one on one support, group sessions, support in court and educational classes to black women suffering domestic, sexual, discriminatory, organisational or financial and material abuse. 

I wonder if white South Africans would take that as a microaggression?

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Nothing there implies they ONLY help black people. You're making stuff up.

 

The shop is open for everyone, and if someone suffering from domestic abuse comes in need of something they can’t afford, they will give it to them for free. It also helps them pay their rent and continue doing their work.

 

https://bootstrapcharity.com/blog/meet-sistah-space/

At the top of the link it says "MEET SISTAH SPACE: HELPING BLACK WOMEN SUFFERING DOMESTIC ABUSE"