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19 minutes ago, sanemax said:

As Sheungwan hasnt go back to me and as you agree with him, maybe you could explain who the hard brexiteers are who are pretending that the center doesnt exist ?

  Who are the people that he was referring to ?

As I stated before, I've not said anything about hard brexiteers. You cannot assume that all those who voted for the Brexit party want a hard brexit. All you can assume is that they want out either with a deal or without.

25 minutes ago, stevenl said:

You can disagree all you want, doesn't change the facts.

Well let me know when you quote some.

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

 

The Tories are split between Hard Brexit, Soft Brexit and Remain. However, the Hard Brexiteers are dishonest enough to pretend that the centre doesn't exist. Amusing to see the forum Hard Brexiteers falling into line.

We'll agree to disagree on that one.

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Well, if the result would have been a remain vote , would you be calling for another referendum ?

  Would any Remainer be calling for another vote ?

Do you really expect Ferage or any Leaver to call for another vote , just because it was close?

In a word No.....I don't know if Farage would of tried but I think the brexiteers would of accepted the result in good grace unlike the remainers

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

And there are going to be Brexiteers also concerned about climate change and they would prefer a Green Euro MP , 

If they felt so strongly about it they would of voted Lib Dems. The fact is that their bigger beef was getting out of Europe.

Nonsense. The Lib Dems loudly and strongly based their campaign on Remain. They were the place to go for disaffected Conservatives and Labourites who were pro-remain. As the results show. Is anybody even aware of what other issues they campaigned on? Did they campaign on other issues?  And since there were significant percentages of Tories against leaving, and significant percentages of Labour voters for Brexit, it's impossible to currently break down where those who remained loyal to their party stood. 

So the fact they have not delivered does not play a role?
 
Up until now, only fools see them as a leave party.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

It has been the contention of Brexiteers on this forum and Farage too, that the Tories have done everything they can to not deliver Brexit. 

 

You can't have it both ways.

 

That's a different kettle of fish. We know the overall consensus of politicians from all parties (other than Brexit party) is that they want to remain however the Tories have based their agenda on leaving. 

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The reality staring you in the face evades you. 

Nothing like pigheadedness and denial to see you are missing the point.

Are the Tory party  remain party or leave party ?

2 hours ago, Nanglon said:

I prefer 'remain' but understand we lost due I think partly to the divisive nature of 50% + 1 (ok, ok 1.7m votes) and also understand a 'leave' poster who said any referendum should only be 2 choices leave with deal, or leave no deal respecting the vote.

 

So in order to overcome the parliamentary impasse, why not re-run referendum, due to the continuing division but instigate a min referendum of 60% required to effect any future change / introduction of something (money where our mouth is) and anything less than 60% remain, the original vote stands, bad luck we all accept the 'will' of the people and move on.

 

So everyone supposedly more informed, can confirm their wishes to break us out of the paralysis.

Because then democracy is dead. We voted and the establishment didn't like the result so they'll get us to vote again and again and again until we wear people down and get what we want.

What happens if the result is the same ? What happens if remain wins? Another referendum? After all it's 1-1.

I don't mind another referendum as long as the questions asked are leave with deal or leave without a deal.

13 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

The big change is in the explosion of support for the only "out and proud" mainstream Remain party.

 

The Liberal Democrats have gone from 1 MEP to 16.

 

Increase in hardcore Remain MEPs.......15 (increase of 1500%).

 

 

 

Yes and pretty much  all taken from the Tories and Labour.

The Lib dems were fighting on two positions, Brexit and Climate change so you have to say their support is a bit of a mixed bag.

18 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Most Hard Brexiteers don't want to know anything other than an echo of their own opinions. And adding up Hard Brexiteers and Soft Brexiteer numbers to justify Hard Brexiteer opinion is hilarious. Stick it with the other junk they peddle.

In your opinion.

28 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

How can the Brexit party honestly be considered for Government when they only have 1 subject that they've shared any views on (& named their party after).

 

Talk about a 1-trick pony, what about Education, Healthcare, Policing, armed forces, the economy... etc... 

 

I suspect there plan will be to get out of Europe and once that's done they will call another referundum leaving the next party to pick up the pieces.

12 hours ago, dunroaming said:

June 7th is the date for May's resignation.

 

Lost it at the end of the speech, voice breaking and near to tears

So the last week of May is the first week of June????

9 hours ago, EricTh said:

Would you earn more money if you do business with a small poor country or  large rich country?

 

China and USA are the second and largest economy in the world respectively. 

 

The other small countries pale in comparison to purchasing power.

 

No, but you can do business with many smaller poor countries rather than one large rich country...

The money transferred to TW doesn't appear to leave the country, instead they try to match the transaction in the opposite direction

Still not sure about how this works in Thailand though

Anyone  any ideas?

11 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

You are wrong.

 

The money doesn't cross any borders.

 

You have completely failed to understand how the TW system works.

 

Read up about it.

 

PS I just checked how much it would cost for someone to receive £1000 worth of baht in Thailand:

 

I pay £1007 pounds, TW charge £6.85, recipient gets £1000.15 worth of baht @ 40.38 baht to the pound.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I will reply in a more courteous manner to you than you did to me.

I didn't read up about it because I stated "As I see it" which infers very little knowledge.

The £10 was just an example to make it easier to lay out my calculations.

on "reading up about it", it appears TW do have an account in Thailand which begs the question that the OP asked.