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Eric Loh
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19 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:Goes back further than that Eric, doesn't it. Or would you like to conveniently forget about all those Shin militia attacks prior to the coup??
Goes back even further like 1976 and 1992. Short memory BB.
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He is too dumb to have any vision. His whole life is about orders not vision. He probably think it’s about his eyes.
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4 minutes ago, londonthai said:
one strike with a wooden stick can kill. He was lucky, even if killing was an intention of attackers
Those cowards can only do that to the conscripts inside the barrack with no witnesses.
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44 minutes ago, Matzzon said:What do you mean with junta goons? Is that people that voted for the junta?
Or do you see it like when students fight between universities, it´s the pricipals fault?You do know the difference being attack and being in a fight. And you do know it’s a series of attacks dating back to the Park incident. It is a pattern and you can bet nothing will come out of the incidents even if there are CCTV evidence. And you know why. No?
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6 minutes ago, Matzzon said:No, but maybe not an awake person that have been attacked by 5 persons with clubs where they also hit him in the head.
There can be two things here. Either the assilants where blind and couldn´t hit his head, or the story is a little bit salted for good news value.
However, we can not wish pain afflicted on anybody, so great the he seem to be okey.Maybe he got a head make of steel. Does it matter. He got attacked by junta goons speaking out against the junta. Salted or pickled; Thailand is better than this without intimidation by the junta.
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12 minutes ago, dbrenn said:They won't have much of a future if they end up as cannon fodder like the last lot.
The army stops at nothing to maintain the status quo, and seriously how bad is it? We're all free to go about our business, enter and leave the country as we wish, enjoy our lives, travel around, see our friends, succeed in our work, pursue hobbies and interests. It's hardly the Soviet Gulag, so why are you making such a fuss about nothing?
As I've said, regimes like the one in Thailand are common in this region, and benevolent dictators are the norm, even if you still think that Hun Sen is some kind of softy democrat,
All these TV armchair warriors like you make me chuckle.
Nice that you still get a chuckle of Ja New and other young activists got beatened up by your benevolent dictator. Those fished out from the Mekong must be just a chuckle for your kind. What a shame.
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18 minutes ago, worgeordie said:Does not look too injured after been attacked by 5 men with wooden clubs,
regards worgeordie
You would prefer guns and a big steel drum.
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43 minutes ago, dbrenn said:So you'll be facing down the soldiers then? Or will you be hiding somewhere nice and safe while someone else does the dirty work?
When I was young and stupid I joined the Black May protest on Ratchadamnoen Avenue in 1992, when the army opened fire on the demonstrators - it was terrifying and I'll bet you've never seen anything like it.
Now I'm older and wiser, I only pick fights that I have a chance of winning ????
Your fight is over. This is a fight for the younger generation and their future. They should not be denied.
https://prachatai.com/english/node/7984
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8 hours ago, webfact said:
A group led by anti-military activist Sirawich Serithiwat, yesterday held a demonstration at the Bangkok Art and Culture Centre calling on junta-appointed senators not to vote for General Prayut to become prime minister again.
The junta goons beat up Sirawich bad. First they rigged the election and now they beat up those who spoke out. Pity there are those who still speak well of this junta in this forum.
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4 hours ago, webfact said:MOST PEOPLE have become fed up with politicians bargaining for Cabinet seats amid ongoing efforts to form a coalition government, a recent survey found.
This political Frankenstein created by Meechai.
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2 hours ago, bannork said:
They worry if they link up with PT they'll lose more supporters as Thaksin was their arch enemy. But they could team up temporarily to fight the junta and go their own ways later.
Similarly PTP will not ask Dem to form the coalition as their supporters will never accept that. Dem is stuck in a hard place. IMO they will join the junta coalition and abstain from voting for the PM to show some sort of defiance.
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Let let’s hope that the Wednesday event will be telecast live and transparent so the people can see who will vote for Prayut. The senators are under intense public pressure not to vote as a bloc for Prayut. The selection method should be open and not a secret ballot. The people has the right to know the selection method and procedure.
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1 hour ago, dbrenn said:Do you really believe that other countries in the region - Singapore, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, etc - really are in any way democracies?
They are all despotisms. Talk out of line and you get squashed.
You really should get the political systems right. Laos, Vietnam and China are socialist countries. Singapore and Cambodia democracy are not perfect neither are most democracies but they allowed the people to decide after their term is up. None stage coups nor tear up the constitution consistently like Thailand. By the way, debating the topic with whataboutism is a waste of time.
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1 hour ago, dbrenn said:
Again, you're hung up on the premise that western style democracy is the best thing for Thailand. You probably saw it on CNN or similar liberal left media outlets - I used to be the same as you, so I know the kind of lies well meaning people like you get taken in by. It was very scary to admit to myself that I what I'd believed in was based on falsehoods, and change my position, but we live and (hopefully) learn as we go.
If democracy means that Thailand becomes like the western world, where nobody has respect for anything anymore, then I'll continue supporting the status quo.
Patriotic Thais still respect their institutions, their families, their elders and their religion. I like that, and I'll keep voting for a government that isn't hell bent on replacing age old traditions with degenerated change for the sake of change.
I think your hang up is that you think Thailand like all Asian countries subscribed to western style democracy. I can tell you from an Asian perspective that western style democracy is not suitable for Asia. Asia adapted their own eastern style democracy and contain all the elements that you referenced.
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52 minutes ago, bdenner said:Been here 19 years and can't see any, so called, human rights abuses that are extraordinary to the ASIAN norm. You might like to enlighten me! (We all know about the Red, Black & Yellow Shirt confrontation of about 2011).
I am speechless that you think human right abuses are not extraordinary. I know this human right report will not change your mind but I hope you take time to read.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/thailand
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6 minutes ago, bdenner said:What the people want or do not want isn't going to change things. There are many factors that were obvious, prior to the election, as to what the outcome was going to be. The good General didn't even bother to do any electioneering is one of them!
I live in the Isaan "Heart Land" and from what my TW (who is, amongst other things, the local "Returning Officer") was saying the locals were resigned to the outcome prior to the event and there were not the normal 'Vote Buying' handouts? Voter turnouts were very average! In the overall scheme of things the locals primary concern is food on the plate and making tractor payments - which they are doing quite comfortably!
IMHO - Stability is the important outcome and I'm thinking the International Community are thinking the same!
The change will come from the younger segment of the population. The older population have seen the brutality of the military and most have resigned to that kind of intimidation and their fate, This election is all about the awakening of the youth angry with the last 5 years of human right abuses, corruption and the mismanagement of the economy. A young party has risen to take on the military and have been harassed all the way. They are the hope for a better future. Stability by intimidation is a false stability.
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13 minutes ago, dbrenn said:The flaw in your logic is to suggest that a high voter turnout means that voters must want change. Voters turning out in droves can just as readily vote for the status quo as an alternative to proposed change.
Change isn't necessarily a good thing anyway. Look again at the degeneration of the doomed societies in the western world. Once great and wealthy civilisations have been laid to waste and bankrupted by their own citizenry - all in the name of change.
Hats off to Thailand for opposing the kind of change that has blighted the places where we came from.
This topic is about Thailand and the high turnout of voters are resounding signals to the junta that they want to express their mandate. The fact that PPRP didn’t get the majority even with all the corrupt ways to rig the election is a loud cry that they want change and they do not want another junta government.
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30 minutes ago, dbrenn said:Voting is compulsory in Thailand, and even if it weren't I still don't see the point you are making. Voter turnout shows that people are voting, but not whom they are voting for.
You do know that compulsory voting is not strictly enforced. 74.68% of voters which is a high turnout tell us that majority of Thais do not like the current situation and want change. Besides if most Thais like the way it is as you said, the pro junta PPRP should have won with a majority.
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8 minutes ago, dbrenn said:
I used to spend hours futilely writing posts just like yours, until I realised that Thailand is better the way it is. I'd rather strong leadership than riots any day, and I have the freedom to live in peace.
Taking a look at the doomed societies of the western world - the miserable, wretched and isolated decay of what was once good - only reinforces my change of mind.
The liberal left virtue signalling viewpoint that dominates the west tries to make Thailand like itself. Good for Thailand for thumbing its nose at unwanted interference.
74.68% of the voting adults came out to vote. Doesn’t that tell you what the Thais want?
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28 minutes ago, candide said:
I agree. The new constitution does not prescribe a deadline to elect a new PM. As long as the puppet Senate is able to prevent the opposition from getting 375 votes, Prayuth can remain in power.
No need for a coup.
True but that depends on the royal endorsement of the lower house speaker and deputies and the issuance of notification to elect the PM. The royal endorsement was received on Friday and its reported that Chuan will notify all parliamentarians today. If he notify, the houses must sit and elect in 3 days. Let’s see if Chuan issue the notification. If he did, I think he has something up his sleeves and may surprised.
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4 hours ago, Jip99 said:
What evidence do you have to confirm that Thailand has moved backwards.
Ignorance is not bliss. Thailand has declined to be top the world in terms of income inequality. Overtaken Russia and Indian in last few years.
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He will be the PM without a government. Shocking if he still want to go through with this fiasco and a massive lost of face. Imagine elected as PM and nowhere to go but home.
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18 minutes ago, Artisi said:
Future developments could
be interesting with the recent change in the chain of command.
And the fact that Prayut don’t have direct command over the military.
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His coup patron is no longer around. If there is one, it will not be by him.
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Prayut sees no need to show vision to Parliament
in Thailand News
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Yet he still get adored by some here. Says it all don't they.