Eric Loh
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4 hours ago, webfact said:MOST PEOPLE have become fed up with politicians bargaining for Cabinet seats amid ongoing efforts to form a coalition government, a recent survey found.
This political Frankenstein created by Meechai.
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2 hours ago, bannork said:
They worry if they link up with PT they'll lose more supporters as Thaksin was their arch enemy. But they could team up temporarily to fight the junta and go their own ways later.
Similarly PTP will not ask Dem to form the coalition as their supporters will never accept that. Dem is stuck in a hard place. IMO they will join the junta coalition and abstain from voting for the PM to show some sort of defiance.
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Let let’s hope that the Wednesday event will be telecast live and transparent so the people can see who will vote for Prayut. The senators are under intense public pressure not to vote as a bloc for Prayut. The selection method should be open and not a secret ballot. The people has the right to know the selection method and procedure.
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1 hour ago, dbrenn said:Do you really believe that other countries in the region - Singapore, Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, etc - really are in any way democracies?
They are all despotisms. Talk out of line and you get squashed.
You really should get the political systems right. Laos, Vietnam and China are socialist countries. Singapore and Cambodia democracy are not perfect neither are most democracies but they allowed the people to decide after their term is up. None stage coups nor tear up the constitution consistently like Thailand. By the way, debating the topic with whataboutism is a waste of time.
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1 hour ago, dbrenn said:
Again, you're hung up on the premise that western style democracy is the best thing for Thailand. You probably saw it on CNN or similar liberal left media outlets - I used to be the same as you, so I know the kind of lies well meaning people like you get taken in by. It was very scary to admit to myself that I what I'd believed in was based on falsehoods, and change my position, but we live and (hopefully) learn as we go.
If democracy means that Thailand becomes like the western world, where nobody has respect for anything anymore, then I'll continue supporting the status quo.
Patriotic Thais still respect their institutions, their families, their elders and their religion. I like that, and I'll keep voting for a government that isn't hell bent on replacing age old traditions with degenerated change for the sake of change.
I think your hang up is that you think Thailand like all Asian countries subscribed to western style democracy. I can tell you from an Asian perspective that western style democracy is not suitable for Asia. Asia adapted their own eastern style democracy and contain all the elements that you referenced.
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52 minutes ago, bdenner said:Been here 19 years and can't see any, so called, human rights abuses that are extraordinary to the ASIAN norm. You might like to enlighten me! (We all know about the Red, Black & Yellow Shirt confrontation of about 2011).
I am speechless that you think human right abuses are not extraordinary. I know this human right report will not change your mind but I hope you take time to read.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/thailand
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6 minutes ago, bdenner said:What the people want or do not want isn't going to change things. There are many factors that were obvious, prior to the election, as to what the outcome was going to be. The good General didn't even bother to do any electioneering is one of them!
I live in the Isaan "Heart Land" and from what my TW (who is, amongst other things, the local "Returning Officer") was saying the locals were resigned to the outcome prior to the event and there were not the normal 'Vote Buying' handouts? Voter turnouts were very average! In the overall scheme of things the locals primary concern is food on the plate and making tractor payments - which they are doing quite comfortably!
IMHO - Stability is the important outcome and I'm thinking the International Community are thinking the same!
The change will come from the younger segment of the population. The older population have seen the brutality of the military and most have resigned to that kind of intimidation and their fate, This election is all about the awakening of the youth angry with the last 5 years of human right abuses, corruption and the mismanagement of the economy. A young party has risen to take on the military and have been harassed all the way. They are the hope for a better future. Stability by intimidation is a false stability.
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13 minutes ago, dbrenn said:The flaw in your logic is to suggest that a high voter turnout means that voters must want change. Voters turning out in droves can just as readily vote for the status quo as an alternative to proposed change.
Change isn't necessarily a good thing anyway. Look again at the degeneration of the doomed societies in the western world. Once great and wealthy civilisations have been laid to waste and bankrupted by their own citizenry - all in the name of change.
Hats off to Thailand for opposing the kind of change that has blighted the places where we came from.
This topic is about Thailand and the high turnout of voters are resounding signals to the junta that they want to express their mandate. The fact that PPRP didn’t get the majority even with all the corrupt ways to rig the election is a loud cry that they want change and they do not want another junta government.
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30 minutes ago, dbrenn said:Voting is compulsory in Thailand, and even if it weren't I still don't see the point you are making. Voter turnout shows that people are voting, but not whom they are voting for.
You do know that compulsory voting is not strictly enforced. 74.68% of voters which is a high turnout tell us that majority of Thais do not like the current situation and want change. Besides if most Thais like the way it is as you said, the pro junta PPRP should have won with a majority.
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8 minutes ago, dbrenn said:
I used to spend hours futilely writing posts just like yours, until I realised that Thailand is better the way it is. I'd rather strong leadership than riots any day, and I have the freedom to live in peace.
Taking a look at the doomed societies of the western world - the miserable, wretched and isolated decay of what was once good - only reinforces my change of mind.
The liberal left virtue signalling viewpoint that dominates the west tries to make Thailand like itself. Good for Thailand for thumbing its nose at unwanted interference.
74.68% of the voting adults came out to vote. Doesn’t that tell you what the Thais want?
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28 minutes ago, candide said:
I agree. The new constitution does not prescribe a deadline to elect a new PM. As long as the puppet Senate is able to prevent the opposition from getting 375 votes, Prayuth can remain in power.
No need for a coup.
True but that depends on the royal endorsement of the lower house speaker and deputies and the issuance of notification to elect the PM. The royal endorsement was received on Friday and its reported that Chuan will notify all parliamentarians today. If he notify, the houses must sit and elect in 3 days. Let’s see if Chuan issue the notification. If he did, I think he has something up his sleeves and may surprised.
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4 hours ago, Jip99 said:
What evidence do you have to confirm that Thailand has moved backwards.
Ignorance is not bliss. Thailand has declined to be top the world in terms of income inequality. Overtaken Russia and Indian in last few years.
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He will be the PM without a government. Shocking if he still want to go through with this fiasco and a massive lost of face. Imagine elected as PM and nowhere to go but home.
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18 minutes ago, Artisi said:
Future developments could
be interesting with the recent change in the chain of command.
And the fact that Prayut don’t have direct command over the military.
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His coup patron is no longer around. If there is one, it will not be by him.
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On 5/30/2019 at 2:13 PM, Dave67 said:
Yes that is the latest news they have given the Democrats the ministry of agriculture
It’s still be revolving and the latest is that the Sam Mitr group is hanging on to the commerce and agriculture portfolio and threatened to leave PPRP if not given. Of course they deny but certainly these A class ministries are being fought over tooth and nail.
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17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:
The treasury reserve stood at Bt263.95 billion at the end of April 2019.
This is more worrisome. When the junta seized power in 2014, the treasury reserve was 490 B Baht. It since have dropped substantially.
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6 minutes ago, robblok said:
Is that 710 the limit for this year or the absolute limit (for the future) ?
Most countries have a limit based on GDP ? Thailand has an absolute limit ?
Id like to know Eric I have no clue.
It is the approved limit set by BOT and chaired by Prayut for this year budget. It is based on a percentage of the GDP and growth at 4%. I can't remember the details but try to look for it in my spare time. All the budget spending are governed by the Fiscal Responsibility Act.
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All was going well with PPRP negotiation until Prayut said he will be the one who will make the final decision on the cabinet. Oops he did it again like his slip-up on the Animal Farm recommendation. He just don't know when to shut his trap.
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13 minutes ago, onera1961 said:
Look at the chart of foreign investment in Thai stock and bond market in the last few months. That will give you a clue. Unprecedented accumulation of foreign currency due to 40 million or so tourists. Currency speculator are speculating 25 BHT / USd by 2023
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Thailand bond is rather attractive with yields out performing US treasury and the Japanese JGB. Consistent surplus in current account and a reserves in foreign currencies create resiliency in Baht strength. Future trend will depend much on the FED decision on interest rate which I think will be accommodative.
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They have a budget borrowing limit up to 710 B Baht before they run foul of the Fiscal Responsibility Act. Not that Article 44 can't fix for their insatiable appetite for military hardware.
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Image re-branding came way too late. Too much political baggage.
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What a mess Meechai has created.
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16 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:
No that is not what I am claiming of course. He isn't completely stupid. However he probably counted on a much bigger election win, he tried to cheat, but in the end he didn't get what he hoped for. In any case, he has a solid 246 seat opposition, and has quite a bit of trouble to cobble together a 16 party coalition.
PPRP had all along predicted to win 150 constituency seats. They got only 97. They did all they can to make the election to their favour like trimming the number of constituency seats up for electoral grabs from 375 to 350 especially in the North and Northeast, campaigning well before the election and massive populist policies. They got the party list seats and PTP got nothing. Now they in a pickle and has to go around begging for help.
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People sick of politicians haggling for posts: poll
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The junta goons beat up Sirawich bad. First they rigged the election and now they beat up those who spoke out. Pity there are those who still speak well of this junta in this forum.