Eric Loh
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Reuters put the numbers at between 30,000-50,000 at around 1pm. Didn't Suterp boast of 1m this morning speaking to the press. Go home. It's over.
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A progressive party will invite the activist in and hear his views instead of bashing him up. I guess only Ahbisit and Sutetp views are accepted and others will not be entertained.
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Where will you go in KL besides Batu Cave, Twin Tower, Central Market, Chinatown. Just can't think of anymore attractions. Nearest beach is Port Dickson which is dirty and not very safe. Yes certainly boring even for me who stayed in KL for 10 years. Oh, the police are very corrupted too. Plus the airport is like 40 km away from the city is a negative.
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Dem dissolution case was acquitted due to technicality ( papers were submitted late). NACC still processing Ahbisit dereliction of duties for his rice guarantee scheme. Samak was convicted because a trivial cooking case. She got a point.
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Yingluck said that she had an opportunity to learn from Thaksin about his ideas, vision, and the style of his political work.
The good news for all crooks is:
According to this, every corruption, law breaking and accepting advantage will rightfully get a carte blanche in court, as long as you tell the judges: “Your Honour, I was driven to do it by ideas, visions and my style of political work.”
Why bother to defend when the courts have already made up their mind. The Courts just refer to previous judiciary coup references and sentence. The hearing is just a side show.
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And yet both still win the popular vote while the other couldn't and have to resort to retro-active laws to get rid of one and the collective might of the independent agencies and the courts for the other. Fair fight? Neh. Conspiracy? Yes.
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Wanna bet. Dem will not take part in election and no way they be dissolved by court. Too much at stake to antagonise Suterp and too much to lose from the same pool of supporters. Court is buddy buddy with Dem and ensure their survival. All too obvious.
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From 'we want the Shin family out of Thailand' to 'no personal grudge', this kind of extremity is just to hard to bear. If they state D-day, V-day, final assault etc etc. , who's to know whether they are coming or going. Fact is that there are too many Indian chiefs in the PDRC from monks, academics, senators etc and very few cohesive plan. Can we trust these people to take over the country?
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Brilliant intuitive move by Natthawut. The exposure will put these characters in the spotlight. If they do get to be the government, their motives are exposed. Most of the names are pure hard core Taksin enemies from the PAD days. They tasted victory once and now trying to do that again undemocratically. It is purely revenge and really nothing to do with the noble cause of reform for the good of the counry. Reform is just Suterp excuse for a putsch with his establishment allies. If he gets his way, it will be downhill all the way for Thailand.
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Deja vu. Last time a 'neutral' prime minister was appointed, the constitution was changed to appointees, community stations were shut down, nation wide program to convert the Taksin supporters and freedom of expression curtailed. Same group of the establishment this time asking for neutral PM. We can expect the same i.e. eradication and subjugation of the oppositions.
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stop hiding Abhsit and try to lead your party by producing policies which the voters can support
Increase the minimum daily wage to 500 THB?
A free iPhone to every Thai citizen?
Unemployment benefit of 5000 THB per month?
It seems that the Democrat Party would have to resort to such policies in order to out-do Thaksin's parties' extremely attractive vote-garnering policies and get democratically elected into power. Should they go this route?
No, they leave the vote buying to the PTP.
Done that too. 5 Dem were red carded in '07 election. They tried everything but still can't win the election. Perhaps get rid of Ahbishit may help.
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stop hiding Abhsit and try to lead your party by producing policies which the voters can support
Increase the minimum daily wage to 500 THB?
A free iPhone to every Thai citizen?
Unemployment benefit of 5000 THB per month?
It seems that the Democrat Party would have to resort to such policies in order to out-do Thaksin's parties' extremely attractive vote-garnering policies and get democratically elected into power. Should they go this route?
Should they go this route? Ahbisit has all the practices as he done all that in his tenure. Popular policies like cash handouts, increase civil servant salaries, subsidized diesel/LPG/electricty/bus/train, free milk, free education etc. Adopted Taksin 30B healthcare scheme, Village funds and SML scheme. All populist policies that caused government debt to rise and created -4.8% budget deficit (highest since Chuan's government ). Also poor economic policies that saw unemployent increased 63%. It was a disaster. Not to mention his failed rice guarantee scheme still under process for dereliction of duty by the NACC ???
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6 for to 3 against. In a jury system, this verdict will not stand. Still good to see that the court practice some sort of popular voting system and reach a verdict. Something that Suterp will not accept in an elecion but he will accept the court popular voting verdict.
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Thought the military check-points fully manned are supposed to protect the general public. If they don't stop attacks, might as well dismantle them or are they there for another reason.
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Neutral Prime Minister...what a joke. This guy has been in Thaksin's pocket for years.
If an election was the way out, we would be out of problems already, wouldn't we???
Who comes up with this crap. Oh yes, I forgot, the Thaksin Propaganda machine
You sure about that? His party was in Ahbisit government coalition. What a joke !
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EC asked government to postpone the election. Nice little trap. Do that and the Dem will petition the Constitution Court to charge the government for ignoring the Royal Degree to have election before 60 days. BTW, 2 Feb election was in its 50 something day. Just admit that the EC is in cahoot with the oppositions. Be a man and stop shifting blame.
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The PDRC and UDD events could not be more contrasting :
PDRC events : a call for reform before an election
a call for the strengthening of the independent agencies
a call for accountability and addressing of corruption
UDD events : a call for the dismantling of the independent agencies
a call for the impeachment of judges on the Constitutional Court and the appointment of new judges
a call for secession
a call for ten million Thais to arm themselves with guns
The answer is easy... "are the independent agencies independent..??"
depending on your answer (or how you get it to be from your Point of view) you know who is right..
Would corruption accountability also include judiciary corruption and also Suterp's corruption? Didn't see your PDRC events to call for disarming of their own men.
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In other words, they didn't get a single Baht. How many lawyers does it take to file a law suit these days?IN other words, please bring money, we're skint!! Sounds like a Michael Yon plea !
In all fairness to Suthep and his gang, when have they been known to be dishonest and have been nothing but truthful since day 1 of their protests? What happened to the 30+ Million Baht that was raised for the farmers, does anyone recall that as ever having been presented to them? Wouldn't that have been a great PR image for him, showing him presenting the Farmers with a 30M Baht cheque? Or did this happen and I blinked and missed it??
"What happened to the 30+ Million Baht that was raised for the farmers, does anyone recall that as ever having been presented to them?"
The money that was collected "for the farmers" was used to pay lawyers to sue the goverment over the delay/non-payment of the rice money.
Just wondering how many PDRC lawyers will benefit from this. There are few PDRC leaders who are lawyers. They need the business since they no longer in their offices. Great croony job, Suterp.
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For those who have Bluesky, they can see live. From what I see, the days of crowds standing on the payment blowing whistles and waving Baht are gone. Lots of guards and key leaders trying to put up a bold front with sporadic waving. The big smiles are gone as supporters dwindle and perhaps protest fatigue or just pure feed-up with this continuing economy sapping political circus.
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yah, don't disrupt the senate election. Guess thats about right as the senators are needed for the final putsch
together with its fair share of PDRC appointed senators. That part of democracy is ok and allowed to proceed as ordered by Suterp. He chose his rules and that summed up his reform plan.
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Court has ruled and it's now water over the bridge. A new election will be held. Court verdict only harden the government supporters with no hope for the Dem to win them over. For staunch Dem supporters, they can enjoy this moment of false victory. For the neutrals, they will be disgusted with the Court and the Dem second boycott and may not vote or cross over. Dem loss. All told, ball at Dem/PDRC court and it's now their dilemma on how to move forward. They are the one to be sweating while PT just sit cool and win the next election.
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So any party that feel that they will lose can block any polling stations, prevent registration and it can void an election. Precedent set and a slippery slope to chaos. Any neutral can see that the court has failed to provide a decent explanation. What will the pro-government supporters feel?
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Gweiloman, maybe you can explain what you meant by own and control. It's like Suterp finance 1/3 of the Dem Party and he is on many arrest warrants and that he control all the policies of the Dem Party. It's the same?
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Every PDRCists claimed corruption. Will one of these people showed me just who in the government has been charged and convicted. The NACC charge is PM dereliction of duty. Thank you.
Thousands of Thai anti-government protesters march in Bangkok
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Relax, the day is over. The PDRC has gone back to Lumpini. Norhing achieved except for a nice tan. The Dem meeting is done and their stand is still the same as before i.e. no move till Suterp order. Let's enjoy Sunday free from politics. Next week will be the event changer.