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Piichai

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  1. 7. You may disagree with the amnesty Bill, but it was legally passed by the House. One can argue that the Bill was flawed, but it was a legal legislative process. The Bill was withdrawn after the government said it would not support the Bill. The senate could not block the Bill, only delay it for 180 days. The fact of the matter is that the Bill was withdrawn to avoid conflict after the 3 days of civil unrest initiated by the Democrats. Those are the actual facts which you can deny, but cannot refute.

    My recollection is that debate on the bill was ended prematurely, the session was closed and everyone told to return at the next scheduled meeting, and then they held a vote on the bill at 4AM.

    That doesn't sound cricket to me. And that's without mentioning the various drafts circulating and last minute changes.

    As we have seen for so many years, TRT, PPP, PTP, Reds or whatever you want to call them, just don't understand that there are laws, rules, and regulations to be followed.

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  2. In a Red Shirt revision of Shakespeare's Henry the Sixth we see Jutaporn cast as Dick the Butcher. He is costumed in in bright red tights and is listening with feverish intensity to moronic babbling of Thaksin Shinawattra who is cast as Jack Cade (the great pretender) on a big screen display via Skype, whilst his deluded minions, claques and shills cheer him on.

    JACK CADE. I thank you, good people:- there shall be no money; all shall eat and drink on my score; and I will apparel them all in one livery, that they may agree like brothers, and worship me their lord.

    DICK THE BUTCHER. The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers.

    Perhaps one thing that both sides can agree on is that ol' Billy was right!

  3. Why do we always need to have charters as thick as dictionaries? It's because our "reforms" have always focused on rules governing politicians, rather than an effort to instil, establish, preserve and foster noble values. When that happens - when reforms are mostly about rules - people look at the Constitution not for inspiration but for loopholes.

    Our politicians search endlessly for loopholes to defend themselves or attack their enemies. That's mainly what Thailand's charters have been all about. Rich business people look for loopholes so they can play politics and enhance their private interests. When no loopholes can be found, they resort to claiming that the enforcement of the laws is tinged with prejudice. And that's probably true. When political fights are all about loopholes, everyone can be right, but at the expense of justice and real progress.

    Nowhere in South Korea's Constitution is it stipulated that a leader has to resign if a ferry sinks with massive loss of life. But somewhere in the Constitution, or national psyche, there must be something that tells or teaches South Koreans about honesty, integrity and responsibility, or about the shame of using those three words for dishonest, malicious or irresponsible purposes. There must be something that teaches the South Koreans that politics can be played up to a point, after which the "playing" must give way to pure conscience.

    Brilliant!

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  4. Why bother indeed!

    The only case that's seems to be expedited is yinglucks

    The others like abhisit and co are getting a free run and the bias sticks out like dogs ........

    Getting dismissed for shuffling the cabinet which is practiced by any government just shows you what her or any PTP party members face when they get into any of these kangaroo courts.

    I notice the yellows on TV have the guilty until proven innocent attitude and unfortunately you right because committees and courts are stacked against them.

    A shining example was today when the new speaker declined to answer the question wether he could appoint a new PM as per suteps wishes.

    No wonder the thai people are so disillusioned !

    Has Yingluck ever declined to answer a question?

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  5. The Senate currently has NO power, it's last session ended on Saturday and will not reconvene until after the election, until the lower house returns..the discussions at the Senate yesterday were 'informal' sessions AND it was only attended by about 80, mostly appointed senators.. now Suthep thinks they can appoint a PM, they couldn't even do that if it were a real senate session.

    There is such a thing as the force of law.. the Senate have these little hypothetical sessions, but CAPO will not allow any of these shenanigans from ever coming to .. yesterday EVEN THE MILITARY came out and said it was against appointing a PM using article 7.

    A close Thai friend who is a independently elected Senator and long time Democrat, also told me that this extraordinary session has no legal status. Many Senators also doubt that they will receive salaries and expenses because of this.

    As for Suthep, he is still playing the game "Final Fantasy - Final Battle"

    Unlike the Reds, not everyone in the world does things for money. Some are actually trying to do the right thing for Thailand.

  6. For the good of the whole nation, Issan and the North should be given autonomy... Let it become one area with Shinewatras as their leaders.. Allow the peoples to the west , Bangkok and south to have their own parliament... And one King for all... east solution.. thumbsup.gif

    Not a bad idea. Especially as that's what they've asked for.

  7. I don't really have a problem, or not too much of one, for the courts "guilty" verdicts. If you're guilty of violating the law, that's all there is to it. What I do have a problem with is their "sentencing" on those guilty verdicts. Come on, removing a PM for one appearance on a cooking show. I'm sure there were other "options" and sanctions that could have been imposed. But it's also difficult to observe them as "non-partisan" when they dissolve a party for "vote fraud", yet fail to even listen to charges against the Democrats for the same thing, citing the suit as frivolous, stating there was no evidence for it, without even reading the suit to begin with. They simply rejected it out of hand. Ok, sorry folks, but THAT is biased. And, to appearances, they go after anything connected to Thaksin in any way like starving Pit Bulls after a fresh steak, while allowing cases against the "royal elites", such as PAD and Dems sit and collect dust. Where are the cases on the PAD's occupation of Government House, or the take over of the airport and shutting down the country? Why has Sondhi, with 5 convictions against him, still free to walk the streets? Let the punishment fit the crime, and apply the law equally and fairly for all, which, often times, doesn't seem to be the case.

    The alleged Anti Corruption commission denied YS to bring additional witnesses regarding the Rice Subsidy. The commission's rationale was that there was no need for additional witnesses because they already had enough evidence. Enough evidence to convict her?

    That denial in itself signaled the bias and the expected outcome.

    Why Suthep and Abhisit were not indicted by the same Commission when the Palm Oil scandal became notorious for months on end?

    The judicial gerontocracy is as yellow as their party cards.

    The NACC needs only evidence to indict. They don't convict.

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  8. If it wasn't it is about as close to one that there could possibly have been.

    Wonder what will happen when the PTP win the next elections which is very likely, I am sure certain events will take place to "warrant" judicial intervention to try to usurp the will of the people yet again.

    Standard procedure here.

    After the reforms are in place, it'll be more difficult to rape the country.

  9. Funnt how this whole thing started on the TS amnesty thing. Where were the generals and Suthep when they were granting themselves amnesty after the coup?

    Suthep and Abhisit would also have benefited under the amnesty bill.

    But they didn't want it because they're innocent!

  10. It's a starting point for people to discuss.

    Better to appeal to cooler heads than stonewall. Or run away.

    Did he not also say his proposal was non negotiable?

    T'was just a bargaining chip. He'll make a compromise and look like the hero who saved Thailand.

    And Yingluck will go down in history as one who refused to come to the table.

  11. Yes, those poor building burning, monk beating, concert violence threatening, free speech denying, judge intimidating, hospital invading, protest destroying, gun totting, midnight grenade throwing, homophobic, indiscriminate murdering, street thug fascist red guard really need guarding.

    Such poor innocents, don't worry though, Chalerm The Good will protect you.

    ...faeces throwing, coffin burning...

    ...blood pouring, tire burning...

  12. A fairly good pointer to why no sane person living in the real world would agree to a half appointed senate.

    So all Canadians with their appointed senate & Britain with their House of Lords are all insane?

    Clearly from the article they are seeking a compromise solution so why not give them some credit.

    I will give them credit for trying. They deserve that. I think they are over optimistic in thinking they can come up witk a plan that is acceptable to all parties within a week. Therein lies part of Thailand's problem. They think deep rooted problems can be solved in a few days.

    They don't need to solve the problems in a week, they only need to chart a way forward. And don't forget, they are already considering Abhisit's reform framework.

    It took about 100 working days for an unelected committee to write the US Constitution. It's reasonable to think coming up with reforms for Thailand should take as long.

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  13. No she was having lunch with her family.

    Abhisit actually grew some nads for awhile until the peoples medium tore him a new one so there was never going to be any negotiations .

    She's having a break and if needed she will be in bkk in one hour.

    Perhaps you missed the news this morning, but the Senate is discussing Abhisit's reform framework.

    Nice to know Yingluck can be back in an hour, but the CC already said her services are no longer required.

  14. There is nothing else that can help this country, when there is huge contempt of court by it's so called leaders, and the amount of defamation against the highest court in the land that just seems to just sit there and soak it all up and sit idly while their rulings are being blatantly ignored.

    Combined with the fact that every attempt at moving forwards logically is being blocked and opposed by a bunch of ministers who no longer have any legal mandate who insist the only way out is the exact same laughably illogical BS about another 'unreformed' and hugely undemocratic election that would not only be a mirror of the last laughable election attempt, but one that would be in a vastly more unstable environment than Feb 2nd.

    It seems now the only way out is a coup and for all those who have clearly abused their power and also flouted court decisions to be rounded up and incarcerated while a new election system is put in place to prevent Thaksin's ability to breach every democratic principal of an election within a country he no longer has any valid rights to while he remains a wanted criminal.

    Without a coup now, Thailand will be no different in 2 years as it is today.... simple as that.

    I never condoned a coup over the past 6 months and was in fact very much against it, but now I have changed my mind as I suspect a whole heap of people have.

    You may very well be right.

    But I'm still hoping those who hold the power are considering Abhisit's framework as a way to negotiate reforms.

    What bloody framework??? He came up with a couple of points that i or anyone could of done on the back of a fag packet in 5 mins.

    His framework is basically hand power over to an unelected group, which is illegal and patently was not a serious framework as he knew it would be rejected by all and sundry.

    It would be nice for someone advocating reform to actually detail the whats, hows, whens etc but they cannot or will not because its just lip service.

    It's a starting point for people to discuss.

    Better to appeal to cooler heads than stonewall. Or run away.

  15. There is nothing else that can help this country, when there is huge contempt of court by it's so called leaders, and the amount of defamation against the highest court in the land that just seems to just sit there and soak it all up and sit idly while their rulings are being blatantly ignored.

    Combined with the fact that every attempt at moving forwards logically is being blocked and opposed by a bunch of ministers who no longer have any legal mandate who insist the only way out is the exact same laughably illogical BS about another 'unreformed' and hugely undemocratic election that would not only be a mirror of the last laughable election attempt, but one that would be in a vastly more unstable environment than Feb 2nd.

    It seems now the only way out is a coup and for all those who have clearly abused their power and also flouted court decisions to be rounded up and incarcerated while a new election system is put in place to prevent Thaksin's ability to breach every democratic principal of an election within a country he no longer has any valid rights to while he remains a wanted criminal.

    Without a coup now, Thailand will be no different in 2 years as it is today.... simple as that.

    I never condoned a coup over the past 6 months and was in fact very much against it, but now I have changed my mind as I suspect a whole heap of people have.

    You may very well be right.

    But I'm still hoping those who hold the power are considering Abhisit's framework as a way to negotiate reforms.

  16. He declined to answer the question wether he had the power to appoint a new PM as suggested by sutep!

    Why not answer?

    These stalling tactics and pandering to suteps wishes are steering the titanic straight at the iceberg!

    Relieve the pressure and call an election!

    He may be researching it at this very moment. Unlike PTP, many others actually consider consequences before they act.

    I'll be surprised if they call for elections before reforms. I shouldn't think they want a repeat of what happened last time. What was the percentage of 'no' votes and defaced ballots again?

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