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This is also false. There is a voluntary convention on cluster munitions, there is no enforced international ban. Neither Russia, the United States, nor Ukraine have signed. The 16 countries that have not signed and who produce cluster munitions includ Brazil, China, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Israel, North Korea, Pakistan, Poland, Romania, Russia, Singapore, South Korea, Turkey and the United States. The problem with cluster munitions is some don't explode. The U.S. has acknowledged humanitarian concerns and has pledged not to use any cluster munitions with a failure rate higher than 1 percent after 2018. [link] Russia has made no such commitment.

This is blatantly false, neither Ukraine nor the US intentionally targeted holidaymakers on Sevastopol beach. Russia does intentionally target Ukrainian civilians nearly daily, and you remain silent. Is that not the definition of hiprocacy?

What deal, agreement did Ukraine officially sign, when, and when did Russia withdraw, from where? Do have have a reference to this event?

Sincerely. I know a lot about high tech. I also know that Russians are purposely and repeatedly firing all kinds inhuman stuff at civilians on a regular basis, like 3 ton bombs and flechette rounds. Flechette rounds?, their only purpose is slicing up any humans in their way. Are you able to balance all sides of an issue?

So it makes no difference to you that Russia chose an area over a public beach at noon to shoot down a Ukrainian missile aimed at a military base elsewhere being used to kill Ukrainian civilians daily? This kind of 'logic' may be why a few posters get branded as propagandists. They leave out essential facts, as does propaganda.

Poster deflects extreme Chinese censorship by citing bans due to extreme Chinese espionage. Explains this is why he hates the US. Suggests others can't reason.

A link! But it doesn't support your claim. Weibo is the most censored SM website in the world. Just google "Weibo censorship" and spend the rest of your life reading. Here is wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_China China censors both the publishing and viewing of online material. Many controversial events are censored from news coverage, preventing many Chinese citizens from knowing about the actions of their government, and severely restricting freedom of the press.[1] If you think China is free, try taking a batch of books into China in your luggage. You'll 'find out' real fast.

So if somehow America were to 'run Ukraine' your OK?

The problem is this thread is not about your feelings or beliefs. It's about recent events in the Ukraine/Russia war. You once said you wished there was a broader thread where one could be more detailed. So, you can make your own thread as long as it abides by the rules. I may join you there as I too would not be constrained... (music from jaws)

More tears shed for poor Ukrainians fighting and dying so foolishly. But not one tear in 188 posts for even more Russian lives shredded needlessly in meat grinders. How strange is that? Well, "such a waste, can't win, give up," is the near sole purpose of the staggering mass of Russian propaganda now flooding the world. Putin, and western experts, know he can't defeat a determined $52 trillion NATO. Can you connect the dots?

YouTube has removed 9,000 channels and 70,000 videos it deems as pro-Russian and ZERO it deems pro-Ukraine. Getting any real information is BANNED. https://www.businessinsider.com/youtube-ukraine-war-removes-70000-videos-9000-channels-russia-2022-5 So you can't address my legitimate question but offer, get this, an MSM sound bite. New question. Do you know anything about fabled Russian propaganda and its history? Vast volumes have been written about it over the last many decades. I personally toured a huge propaganda factory in 1966 in Moscow so I learned early. Most of the propaganda was produced in English for export.

Who is they Bob? Are they in the room with you now?

More personal insults from someone with 100+ posts who "doesn't care", he said hipocritacally.

You haven't figured out what Russian's think, much less the 'global majority'. To help, watch this Russian woman explain Putin's accomplishments. She speaks for 2 minutes so maybe a lot. 'Pravda' means truth.

The issue in the West is that many sources are banned ... Can you compare for me, should be easy to find, how much information is banned in say America versus Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea? I.e., team Putin.

Another 1 year old less meaningful video for the Latest Developments thread, eh? Youtube's top of page warning -->

I'm the case that breaks your theory. I love Russia and it's people. I grew up in cold war Europe, traveled throughout Russia, Ukraine, the Iron Curtain countries, and East Berlin. saw what Hitler had done and Russia was doing. I have close, long time Russian friends. My strong anti Putin's Russia views come from them. Maybe your views of the world are too simple.

Yes, he is quite intelligent and a very independent thinker. Such people sometimes get it wrong because they lack grounding, the same thing behind their creativity. It comes with the territory. He was inadvertently (unknowingly) enmeshed with the Covid lab leak cover up but over two years came to realize his error and is now a strong lab leak advocate. Because he's an economist and not an historian, I'm not sure he sees all sides of the Putin/Russia/Ukraine issue. He may be partially influenced by his perennial America bad views. As for mainstream, I don't think there's a mainstream narrative the way you think there is. "It's complicated" is probably a better view.

We are much more useful right here fighting Russian propaganda.

Gazprom, Russia's largest corporation, continues its historic slide after a brief blip caused by the ruble's loss of exchangeability. Gazprom's huge losses now drain from Putin's war efforts instead of supporting them. So much for threatening it freeze Europeans to split NATO. As of 19 June 2924:

What gives US the right to interfere in another sovereign nations affairs? What gives Russia the right to interfere in sovereign Ukraine's affairs? Or all the other countries whose territory they have taken over time? There's some of your hypocrisy at work.

Got mine just now, June 19 2024. Bangkok.

LOL. You are no longer needed! FORBES: Top AI Chatbots Spread Russian Propaganda 32% of all AI chatbot responses are pushing Russian propaganda.

So, Crimea was officially transferred to the Republic of Ukraine! ... But why? You conveniently avoid this question by quoting further down at "Hence, in 1954, Crimea was more “Russian” than..." You omit the reason that 'Hence' refers to!, which is: "A sizable population of Tatars had lived in Crimea for centuries until May 1944, when they were deported en masse by the Stalinist regime to barren sites in Central Asia, where they were compelled to live for more than four decades and were prohibited from returning to their homeland. Stalin also forcibly deported smaller populations of Armenians, Bulgarians, and Greeks from Crimea, completing the ethnic cleansing of the peninsula. Hence, ..." So the real reason? Ethnic cleansing! The paper further concludes that Crimea was only absorbed into the USSR because Russia had cleansed the original inhabitants so no need for Crimea to remain an autonomous republic.

This does not sound right, neither the 'small numbers' nor that Ukraine is somehow responsible. Do you have reliable links to confirm this?