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This is a quote from a thai person I heard recently of three examples, and its highly contradictory in my eyes,

1. man orders a drink at bar, receives it, tastes it, its the wrong one, he tells teh waitress politely, she gets him a new one,

bill comes, and he has been charged for two drinks, he questions it, and her excuse is "well I cant sell that drink to anybody else, so you pay for it"

man gets extremely annoyed and agro, apparently, by losing his temper, he loses face and had he not got so agro, might have got the result he wanted

2. Staff member screws up in job in some way, Manager tells her off politely and without agro in front of people, she loses face, and then decides to quit

3. Farang is out on date with his thai gf/wife, a couple of guys are pointing and sniggering at her for whatever reason, he doesnt like it, so the move tables, they follow and one of them wants to shake his hand when he goes to the toilet, he refuses to, the come over and want to pick a fight because he lost face in front of his friends

If the above are true accounts of what face is all about, its complete BS

these dregs of society need to be publicly humiliated, then sent to a facility that makes very little rocks from big rocks

oh ok, so the next you take pay a barfine and she decides to run away, then you should be publicly humilated too!

geez, people visiting an area reknowned for sex tourism, wanting to see a sex show........who would have thought............

I agree, execute their families too

Please oh please dont tell me his excuse was he refused to refund because he lost face when he got to the venue and it was closed..........

When people pay you to model your child then you know they are model material.

When you have to pay people to model your child you should obviously know they aren't.

Couldnt agree with you any more!!!!

im sure Cindy crawford didnt have to pay a dime to get her photo taken

More parents wanting to live through their kids get disappointed that their kids ain't stars

Id say this is more common in the USA and other western countries,

in conservative cultures ,eg asian, muslim even if a girl is approached by victorias secret, not all will jump at the chance , whether it be personal or family or religous

Any updates????

I love happy endings with justice being served

Just an update for those interested. The guy apparently had an accident and has started paying!?

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<deleted> awesome,

these are stories I love hearing,

what sort of accident was it?

btw. was it a thai guy or aussie?

I see the view points of people saying it's only 3k aud to get out of the situation

Whilst I agree with the views, the other side of me thinks "let her get away it and she won't learn, or will do it again" plus I am enforcing her disgusting behaviour

In an ideal world I would sign up for ten credit cards and rack up debt and leave the debt with her to the amount plus more of what I've put in, but obviously being a tourist, that's not an option

What about agreeing to pay the 100k, getting her to sign the docs, and then disappear? you have no roots in thailand, if you disappear, she will be the one doing all the dealings with her existing debt, frankly I thibk its the best option, just change your phone number and don't go back to that town which you seem to not know much about, no loss for you

Oh, and another thing, get the idea of marriage out of your thick head. In your situation it's absolutely absurd

Ahh I see, understood, now that his wife left him, that's a chunk of the content gone plus the negative sentiment on his website, plus I assume writing about bus loads of Chinese tourists isn't going to get viewers

The wife's content was actually quite silly and had little to do with the reality of day to day life with a Thai woman. I think it was his attitude that suffered more than his content. I don't think he had much experience with women. Bar woman maybe but not regular ladies.

When my first three wives left me I was shocked after that I got kind of used to it and came to Thailand. These INTERNET Romeos are a different breed of dufuses. Naive to the tenth power would be being generous. They give a Thai woman a house and cash and leave her alone 6 months a year.

this is by no way means as an insult but

If you've done you 'till death do us part' vowel three tomes, and ot hasn't worked out, then maybe you are an extremely poor judge of character, or you aren't meant for marriage

Oh I think it's an insult. I mean after all you did suggest I am an extremely poor judge of character. I got married for the children. Not mine but I raised them like they were. Perhaps I'm a bad judge of character or just a nice guy. But I guess you know me eh?

Not really, being a poor judge of character isnt an insult, its a skill, some people have it, some don't, some learn it, some don't.

Ahh I see, understood, now that his wife left him, that's a chunk of the content gone plus the negative sentiment on his website, plus I assume writing about bus loads of Chinese tourists isn't going to get viewers

The wife's content was actually quite silly and had little to do with the reality of day to day life with a Thai woman. I think it was his attitude that suffered more than his content. I don't think he had much experience with women. Bar woman maybe but not regular ladies.

When my first three wives left me I was shocked after that I got kind of used to it and came to Thailand. These INTERNET Romeos are a different breed of dufuses. Naive to the tenth power would be being generous. They give a Thai woman a house and cash and leave her alone 6 months a year.

this is by no way means as an insult but

If you've done you 'till death do us part' vowel three tomes, and ot hasn't worked out, then maybe you are an extremely poor judge of character, or you aren't meant for marriage

What posts are you talking about? Stickman doesn't post on Thai Visa does he?

No i mean stickmans website+random thaivisa members posts , sorry.

Stickman got that way when his wife left him. Same thing on Thai Visa. Cherchez la femme http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherchez_la_femme

Anyone care to explain, what exactly happened?

His wife used to write a column about fairy tale angelic Thai women and he wrote a column about nightlife. He was a teacher and also a large part of his site devoted to teaching in Thailand. About 8 years ago INTERNET dating scams became big business and thousands of scammed men with computers got turned loose on the Thai centric websites for revenge and most Thai blogs took a negative turn downhill. At first the blog owners loved all the clicks but then realized they were losing tourism to the very negative clickers they first encouraged and Western expat tourism in Thailand was replaced with Chinese people on buses.

Ahh I see, understood, now that his wife left him, that's a chunk of the content gone plus the negative sentiment on his website, plus I assume writing about bus loads of Chinese tourists isn't going to get viewers

What posts are you talking about? Stickman doesn't post on Thai Visa does he?

No i mean stickmans website+random thaivisa members posts , sorry.

Stickman got that way when his wife left him. Same thing on Thai Visa. Cherchez la femme http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherchez_la_femme

Anyone care to explain, what exactly happened?

I can't thibk what's more embarrassing,

Old guys thinking they are tough in a foreign country because once they may have tough or not, arguing about how tough they are

Or

Local teenagers potentially spending the rest of their life on jail for stabbing a farang in the neck and killing him over something so trivial and over being told off for sitting on someone else's bike

I've heard this wild outrageous rumour that there ghettos in the usa!!! And omg apparently they are full of people called Americans

My mind is going to explode!!!!

The cultural barrier is down and no longer protects the arrogant white man__he caused these young punks to lose face and paid the price. Yes, alcohol is great stuff for murder -- remember, it diminshes ihibitions. Best take heed.

<deleted> this face bullshit

Non owner sitting on bike, owner comes along and gets angry

What has face got to do with it????

When will they learn that face gets people nowhere

Hope the kids get life in prison so they can assess whether life in prison was worth the face

Face has everything to do with it in their minds but not in yours. And causing a Thai to lose face, as we've seen many times can cause you to lose your life.

I don't deny that, but I'f he sits in prison for the rest or his life while maintaining his face and if he thinks it's worth it, then so be it

He does not see it the same way you or I do. Yes it's not worth it but the biggest loss is the Germans life and probably due to testoterone. Not that I am blaming him for being killed, it certainly was not his fault but if he has lived here long enough he knows the way to to deal with these animals and he made a wrong choice.

That's my point in regards to the offender, if he sits in prison thinking "oh that was worth it, I have my face intact" then it's his value judgement, but if he regrets it, then I have a few choice words for him

I'm not arguing the difference in how I see things

YOU, sir, as a so-called senior member on this forum, with that kind of perspective, re: Thai people, is that have, as a "guest" in the Kingdom ? Granted they (the Thais) certainly have some serious "growing-up" to do (for a people who's culture pre-dates both the Greek and Roman Empires), but why are you still here, if you consider Thais to be such animals. That German lost his life because he was just plain stupid. That same incident could just have easily happened to him in Germany. FYI -

At no point did I say Thais were animals, at no point did I say Thais needed to grow up

What relevance does me being or not being thailand have anything to do with it

In fact I've actually said more then once in this thread, if you (bar owner) is going to act like a total tool, then be prepared to accept the potential consequences

The cultural barrier is down and no longer protects the arrogant white man__he caused these young punks to lose face and paid the price. Yes, alcohol is great stuff for murder -- remember, it diminshes ihibitions. Best take heed.

<deleted> this face bullshit

Non owner sitting on bike, owner comes along and gets angry

What has face got to do with it????

When will they learn that face gets people nowhere

Hope the kids get life in prison so they can assess whether life in prison was worth the face

Face has everything to do with it in their minds but not in yours. And causing a Thai to lose face, as we've seen many times can cause you to lose your life.

I don't deny that, but I'f he sits in prison for the rest or his life while maintaining his face and if he thinks it's worth it, then so be it

He does not see it the same way you or I do. Yes it's not worth it but the biggest loss is the Germans life and probably due to testoterone. Not that I am blaming him for being killed, it certainly was not his fault but if he has lived here long enough he knows the way to to deal with these animals and he made a wrong choice.

That's my point in regards to the offender, if he sits in prison thinking "oh that was worth it, I have my face intact" then it's his value judgement, but if he regrets it, then I have a few choice words for him

I'm not arguing the difference in how I see things

The cultural barrier is down and no longer protects the arrogant white man__he caused these young punks to lose face and paid the price. Yes, alcohol is great stuff for murder -- remember, it diminshes ihibitions. Best take heed.

<deleted> this face bullshit

Non owner sitting on bike, owner comes along and gets angry

What has face got to do with it????

When will they learn that face gets people nowhere

Hope the kids get life in prison so they can assess whether life in prison was worth the face

Face has everything to do with it in their minds but not in yours. And causing a Thai to lose face, as we've seen many times can cause you to lose your life.

I don't deny that, but I'f he sits in prison for the rest or his life while maintaining his face and if he thinks it's worth it, then so be it

I'm not retirement age,

But is it just me but is retiring in thailand fraught with danger

If you are. A teacher, your salary is ok by thai standards but not by the Western world, so once you come to thailand, then while property prices increase back home in your original currency

That means you will never be able to go back.home since prices ans cost of living. Are higher,

No doubt you'll have no savings unless you have a business or got lucky

Seems like a last resort for those with not much of a career or financial strength, and with a lot of personal baggage

Just observing from the stories I hear

I think you mean stories you imagine. The smart guys got out of the West before the housing bubble burst and when the baht was it's weakest; converted holdings and made 20% profit and didn't lose any money in the bubble bursting in the West. It would be about 10 years ago. No problem going home as they all made a good profit exchanging currency and other assets.

Face it all the old guys posting here have done well. Is it too late now? Maybe. My pension has a cost of living clause and keeps up with inflation in the West. I could go back anytime and buy my old house for half of what I sold it for. I could go back but I'm paying 40 baht for a kilo of scallops why should I?

I don't havr a high powered career, nor do I have a business that's raking in lots of money

I personally would only retire in thailand if either I had a huge passive income that I could live like a king, or that I had such little income and thought my life here would be hell that I could get good value by moving to thailand

I'm right in the middle, so can't really see myself making a permanent move

A girlfriend of mine brought her two year old over, the kid kept on slapping a light stand, every time he would slap it, the lantern shaped thing would bend and a bits of plastic would fall off, after yelling at him not to don't, the third time she slapped him right across the face

I was impressed

That's the only child disciplining I've seen so just ignore me

You were impressed?

Please don't have any more kids, until you have learnt to be a parent.

What givrs you the right to think your methods are correct?

I suppose you go to thailand to teach all the Thais the right way to do everything since they're all third world Muppet

Geez

I have followed stick for over 10 years not ever week but most and over that time the night lights lose there pull and you see Thailand for what it is. Having money helps enjoy it here. But if you were a teacher like Stick say for 80% of the time you have been living in Thailand then you would not be saving much. Living in Bangkok would not help matters either.

With Stick maybe the years have caught up with him. And he is now looking at taking his own advice and getting out to try and make some real money in the time he has left. He being a teacher for so long in Thailand you would not say he would have saved much from that job.

Then he gave it up and went full time into his site so then again maybe he was making 20% more than teaching doing full time site work. still not allowing you too save very much. Not forgetting the cost of his Hi so wife and his time spent in the bars and travelling around Asia not cheap to do all that.

If what some say his wife may have done a runner that would make it harder for him to want to stay here.

He will come right the house pricers in N.Z.have more than doubled in less that 6 years so he will wait for his folks to pass and then he will be sitting prity. Who knows when that happens he might come back to Thailand with cash in his pocket and not have to worry about his next baht. But then he might become one of the old retired farts he talked about in his pagers hanging on to the arm of a young brown thing in a short dress with a big tat on her leg.

Som num nar

I'm not retirement age,

But is it just me but is retiring in thailand fraught with danger

If you are. A teacher, your salary is ok by thai standards but not by the Western world, so once you come to thailand, then while property prices increase back home in your original currency

That means you will never be able to go back.home since prices ans cost of living. Are higher,

No doubt you'll have no savings unless you have a business or got lucky

Seems like a last resort for those with not much of a career or financial strength, and with a lot of personal baggage

Just observing from the stories I hear

is it just me and my thai wife but does every thai woman know everything about everything and is always right, I threw out my encyclopedia long ago.