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You are a fool 🙂 You are good at it so keep at it.

Do you lack eyes? Thais are no better or worse and I see them doing much worse very often. People are people and some do stupid things on occation.

What are you seeing that I'm not? Thailand is MUCH better than its neighbors. Yes? Compared to 20 years ago Thailand has improved but now it needs to forget about other countries because it will have little impact on local polution. Look at the image you replied to and you will notice the the polution isn't crossing borders. We might be saying the same thing 🙂

I live on the Laos border and experience the blow over but and this is a big BUT, 95% of polution here and everywhere I travel is local. Many, poster here included, seem think there is nothing that can be done in Thailand because Thailand can't control their neighbors which is so far from reality. Just fixing polution at the local village level has a huge impact on the quality of air. Keep it simple and focus on village heads to fix the issue is the solution. Our village did it this year with incredible results. It was confrontational and almost violent trying to enforce because burning has always been accepted. Now that we are at the tail end of it and no more speaches at meetings for a 4-5 weeks and it is a little worse but I can adjust to the bad periods that only last a few hours in most cases.

Had Lasik done in 2009 in Thailand. Better than perfect vision for the first 10 years and now pretty close to perfect beyond 3 meters. Dry eyes maybe but I'm not the type t focus on small issues. Same applies to the halo effect.

What a boring pathetic thread. I feel better now 🙂

Thanks for experimenting and the results were as you expected 🙂 I did my own experimenting today during an easy run that last 1 hour and the temperature was 20c where I was running under the AC and the AC was set to 21c. I put a 1.5 liter jug under the drain pipe and after an hour almost exactly 1 liter was in the jug. I assume it would be close to 2 liters if running hard. I have had great experiences with Panasonic and TLC ACs so not sure if "my AC is the best ramble" is accurate but whatever floats your boat. Anyhow, I figured out this AC icing issues that I have had over the the last 20 years in Thailand in my exercise rooms. All the responses claiming it wasn't the humidity got me thinking. I knew it was the extreme humidity in my small exercise room that was causing the icing without any doubt. Solution, run my AC as a normal person does. Set it too 21c for a couple hour before the run so the coils aren't as cold when I start my run. The AC can then rid the room of humidity and the coils won't ice over. Also run the fan for a few hour after exercising to dry the unit out which only draws 14 watts.

Cheers and advice heard but possibly not followed 🙂

Another good read! I feel honored to be acknowledged at the end 🙂

Most of us are free here or wherever we find ourselves. Only thing that is really different are the outcomes of choices here compared to America for example. Choosing not to work at 42 and live in America would have had a much different outcome then doing it in Thailand. I have more than I really need here in Thailand and in America I would have had not much more than food and shelter.

I can confirm the above on multiple ACs 🙂 This thread has given me some ideas of how to mitigate the coils icing over. The last three days have been cold here in the NE so trying not to be overly optimistic but the coils have been ice free as long as I start the AC at least 3 hours before jumping on the treadmill and never dropping the temp below 21c. I'm sure next week will be hot and I'll see what happens.

Your sweat source is listing MAXIMUM a human can sweat. My maximum is probably the same. It isn't relevant. What is relevant is what the average person sweats an hour while training hard on a treadmill which is about 1 liter. A marathon runner sweats about a liter on average and 2.5 liters on the high end. Running at marathon pace for 1 hour is harder than my hard runs. I would expect to sweat at least 2.5 liters an hour during a marathon. I know you are having fun being argumentative and keep at it. It is entertaining even if at times you create a reality that doesn't apply. You enjoying being strange without reservation and I respect this attitude. Cheers

Let me know what happened when you have the time. My hunch is the coils will freeze over if done for an hour. Interesting regardless...

Thanks, don't take this as an insult, the above post is similar to Gamma minus 500 words.

Have a couple friends that lie with abandon and they are usually the life of every party. Weird, they lie so much that we just accept it as part of the show. They aren't mean and well intentioned. They just want to laugh and have fun. Only time it gets uncomfortable is when you become part of lie while everyone is in tears laughing at something that never happened.

I agree. He seems to have lived a miserable life. Just because he was famous doesn't imply he was happy. If he died content then just another example of a world that isn't fair.

Yes, I checked it out on shopee and it had good reviews. Power isn't an issue since I have enough solar to run the AC for hours before to bring down the RH to 45-50 RH. Takes a few hours and I can't set the the temp too low or it will freeze over during the run. I think the reason for this is the dry mode process usually maintains the temp or slightly increases it on most ACs but this TLC AC lets me drop the temp to 16. The dry process increases the moisture on the coils and at a low temp they freeze. Funny, I thought I could get around that by using the fan only for 10 minutes after the using the dry mode. The coils did dry but it blew all the moisture back into the room 😞 Appreciate the advice and the humidifier recommendation. Your arguments with Gamma were also entertaining. I am going to tinker with AC I have and see if it as simple as turning it on a few hours before I jump on the treadmill and not setting at below 20c. Last two days this has worked perfectly. My shoes were dry today after a 90 minute run which is rare 🙂

It isn't that you won't be found out because that is all too easy for me 99% of the time. It is that you might be found out and it doesn't add to the quality of a person you are nor improve the odds of living a satisfactory life. It is very rare for me to lie. Not something I'm proud of and somehow convince myself it is the best alternative. It probably isn't and I was just to lazy or weak to not lie. It is best to take the attitude that it is what it is and deal with it. I haven't lied to my woman in 4 years. I make a habit of not having to! Hard initially considering this is Thailand.

That was a lengthy read and I apologize for skimming through most of it and in the end I ended up not really understanding most of it 🙂 I'll try to answer your last question from my perspective. I need to remove roughly 2 liters an hour if I begin with a RH of 50 and I want it to below 60 while maintaining the temp of 22c. I sweat about 2 liters an hour running hard outside continuously. I very rarely run for an hour hard indoors because I break it up into intervals so 1 liter would be a good guess. E.g., today I did 5x3 mins with 2 minute rest at 95% effort followed by another roughly 30 minutes easy and ended with another 7 minutes at 85% effort. The RH steadily climbed during the 5x3 portion to 64% and steadily declined to 55 following the 5x3 and even declined further when doing the less hard 7 minute portion. After 90 minutes on the treadmill the RH was 52 which is close to perfection and the temp was 21c. I ran at the worst time which is around 12:30pm where the sun is shining directly on the rough. Today was cold so probably comparable to most days I start around 9am. My solution of letting the AC run for at least 3 hours before starting and not setting it to 18c but a more conservative 22c where liquid doesn't accumulate on the coils is working for now. Chrossy had a good idea in regards to using the dry mode but regretfully this caused the coils to freeze up quicker on 2 out of the three tests. If I ran in dry mode but increased the temp to 26 it would probably not freeze over but that is too hot. As Sometimewoodworker suggested, I will get around to picking up a dehumidifier. My bet is that this would solve the problem but with higher energy usage which isn't a concern because I have solar.

All good but not interested 🙂 If the AC keeps the room at the desired temp, then I'm cool. In this home over the the last 3 years I have had the treadmill in three different rooms with 3 different ACs. All three have frozen over and two of them did it often during the hot season. Also happened in previous homes and never in my non exercise rooms. I have enough data points for me but respect your opinion nonetheless. Take care

No space heater - it's Thailand. Thanks for the other info. I'm going to stick to my functionality test which is much easier. If I can keep the treadmill room between 20-23c and humidity rarely crossing 60%, I'm a happy man. I'll still be sweaty but with a fan also it will be comfortably warm. The amount of water extracted by the AC would be interesting. I already built a funnel from where it come out to the Infront of my sliding glass doors so I can verify the system is working. It's is a quite amazing the amount that is running across the patio. Once the flow stops, I know that in 10 minutes the room will become miserably hot and muggy. I like numbers so next hot day (won't have to wait long ) I'll do that and my bet is 2 liters an hour. Cheers

Well this thread has gone off the rails but a few posters answered my OP. Gamma as usual does his own thing which is entertaining. Easy to skim Gamma's long rambles. In the end I think I found the solution. In summary my refrigerant was tested during the professional clean a few days ago. Not the issue - LOL. This has happened for 20 years in my exercise rooms. This new room was just built and the AC installed 3 days ago. It is almost able to do the job and depending on the day usually takes well over an hour at running at 18c to ice over. All the erroneous posts ( trying to help 🙂 ) got me thinking. I knew the AC was not the issue but many ( mostly one) were telling me otherwise. So I did some experimenting yesterday and I think I have the solution. As Gamma stated he can run his AC at 21c continuously 24/7 (as I can on my other non exercise room ACs) and I can't run mine ( 4 different ACs) while exercising "very" hard for 90 minutes without issue. To some the solution is probably obvious but wasn't for me. Do the normal thing as Gamma does ( normal and gamma in the same sentence 🙂 ) and run my AC continuously and not just an hour before starting my treadmill run and turning off after. Did this yesterday and zero issues. The area where I run was a steady 20.5c +-1c and the humidity went from 48% to 59% in an hour. It never topped 60%. The coils were dry at the end of my session. To keep it at 18c (humidity ~100%) you'll need near perfect airflow across the evap coil to prevent condensate from freezing. Even at 20c it will freeze over most days. If I left it on for 12 hours at 20c I doubt there would be an issue but I only use the room for a couple hours a day at most. I think I could get away with setting it to 21c a few hours before and raising to 22c during the treadmill run but a rare cold front is moving through and can't test it. Thanks everyone

Yes, it works fine after it thaws as my previous 4 ACs in my exercise rooms over the last 20 years. All had adequate refrigerant. Not trying to be rude but nobody seems to have read the OP. I don't need AC advice but asking about how to lessen the humidity.

Perfect and thanks!!! I think I'll go with the Xiaomi because my AC should remove at least as much water. I'm "guessing" the AC can almost do the job without the dehumidifier and if I can remove an extra .5 to 1 liter with the dehumidifier per hour the coils won't ice over.

It is funny at this point. This happens with every AC for 20 years and doesn't happen with the 15 other ACs not used in the my exercise rooms over the last 20 years. I find many of Gamma's posts entertaining and his posts above are no exception. Now I just have to buy a dehumidifier. I sweat about 2-3 liters an hour on very hard days and dehumidifier would theoretically capture 1 liter an hour and hope the AC can drain another 1-2 liters. If I started at 45% humidity and the it climbed to 75% that would probably be OK and the the coils wouldn't ice over.