monk213

Go for porcelaine.

Also, for the injections there is a gel rub that that they rub on your gums to numb it before the jabs.

I have had crowns put in here in Europe and my dentist "overdosed" me with valium and i slept like a baby through the whole process!! I had had a few vodkas beforehand too.

My porcelaine crowns have lasted 5 years now with no problems. Apart from coming down from the valium and jabs. That's when you really feel like you have been punched in the mouth. But goes away after a day or two. Then you have to go back to the dentist!!

I laugh about it now - but feel for you. It was the dribbling in the bus home that was embarassing for me!!

Porcelain, I will remember that thanks.

Well I use valium on a daily basis due to a diagnosed mental disorder, so I will just take more than my normal dose, and I am only worried about the injections that go right up into the roof of your mouth where there is virtually no skin / flesh. I have had one there as a kid and it hurt so bad, I felt the needle scratching on my bone.

I have to go on repeat visits so this will happen 4-5 times I guess, just going to have to suck it up.

I laughed out loud literally when you said 'you really feel like you have been punched in the mouth' - the reason I am in this situation is because the road punched me in the mouth at a good 60kmh lol.

Go for porcelaine.

Also, for the injections there is a gel rub that that they rub on your gums to numb it before the jabs.

I have had crowns put in here in Europe and my dentist "overdosed" me with valium and i slept like a baby through the whole process!! I had had a few vodkas beforehand too.

My porcelaine crowns have lasted 5 years now with no problems. Apart from coming down from the valium and jabs. That's when you really feel like you have been punched in the mouth. But goes away after a day or two. Then you have to go back to the dentist!!

I laugh about it now - but feel for you. It was the dribbling in the bus home that was embarassing for me!!

Porcelain, I will remember that thanks.

Well I use valium on a daily basis due to a diagnosed mental disorder, so I will just take more than my normal dose, and I am only worried about the injections that go right up into the roof of your mouth where there is virtually no skin / flesh. I have had one there as a kid and it hurt so bad, I felt the needle scratching on my bone.

I have to go on repeat visits so this will happen 4-5 times I guess, just going to have to suck it up.

I laughed out loud literally when you said 'you really feel like you have been punched in the mouth' - the reason I am in this situation is because the road punched me in the mouth at a good 60kmh lol.

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nothing new, we used to take a bunch of travel sickness pills (a fair few) and trip off our heads at the sports carnivals..

This is a true story, at my school a kid in the year above me decided to take 11 and a half ecstasy pills in an ICT lesson. Subsequently went into a coma and nearly died.

Should have just taken the whole E mate..

Yeah I don't know why he took 11 and a half and not 12, he snorted the half so I was told. They were green Ferrari's. The pretty harsh thing on the part of the head master was he told his parents that he was excluded from school whilst he was there in a coma haha...

nothing new, we used to take a bunch of travel sickness pills (a fair few) and trip off our heads at the sports carnivals..

This is a true story, at my school a kid in the year above me decided to take 11 and a half ecstasy pills in an ICT lesson. Subsequently went into a coma and nearly died.

I am going to immigration on Monday so I shall make sure to either report back here or make a thread about it. I also have a lisp at the moment because I have smashed my 3 upper front teeth to pieces so that should be fun if there are tests.

I understand that the system is chaotic and unorganized to say the least, but I know this woman and she must know something to say that outright. Sure it could all change by tomorrow, but she said for Hua Hin there are no testing going on for at least a couple of months. She has had no students return stating that they have had to be tested and the school is big so has a lot of students.

Anyway make sure to keep my contact, Kitsune

I have a very good relationship with my school and it is not in Bangkok or Pattaya. She said to me (not my teacher one of the main staff who I kind of know on a personal level) that right now in Hua Hin there is no standardized testing, but there will be in the near future. I trust her and if she is wrong, well I am prepared so it does't matter too much for me at least

How many times a week does your school staff is present at immigration? ZERO

Things are changing week by week these days

Ever heard of email and or telephone? They are in contact and know what changes are coming, I have been with this school for 4 years, they know what is going on. But yea you know all your stuff after what, how long have you been learning Thai?

Immigration itself does not know what office is doing what and what officer is applying which new rule, but apparently your school knows it ALL.

Wow

I will keep your contact if I have any question

Honestly, in my opinion, if you are not independently wealthy.....you have to be crazy not to have health insurance here (or anywhere for that matter where quality, free, state provided care is not available).

Then I am crazy, however I would suggest that I am just moronic when it comes to such matters. As an ex hypochondriac it is quite ironic as well, I also have not had any injections before I flew out here in 2010, again silly. But I have changed my tune since then and I was 21, i am going to invest in insurance and I think BUPA. Do they give you a medical or do you just give them the money and fill out some forms?

There is no medical, but if you lie on the forms and they find out...... They will cancel your coverage.

They don't cover pre existing conditions.....

That's fine, I just don't like medicals for some reason..

Honestly, in my opinion, if you are not independently wealthy.....you have to be crazy not to have health insurance here (or anywhere for that matter where quality, free, state provided care is not available).

Then I am crazy, however I would suggest that I am just moronic when it comes to such matters. As an ex hypochondriac it is quite ironic as well, I also have not had any injections before I flew out here in 2010, again silly. But I have changed my tune since then and I was 21, i am going to invest in insurance and I think BUPA. Do they give you a medical or do you just give them the money and fill out some forms?

It this 2 months thing only a BKK thing or a nationwide thing?

So how does things actually work with staying the full year? You fly into BKK and they stamp you in for 3 months. You go to immigration then get 2 months. Then go to immigration & get another 1 month only after that?? Plus needing to do a MOE test then apply for another 6 month ED visa??

Some people have reported that after 6 months you need to apply for a new ED visa & leave the country, others said you don't. Apparently there is a MOE test you need to do just before the 6 month period to get the 2nd ED visa for another 6 months too.

Is this how it all works?

I would like to know this also, is it just Bangkok and Pattaya? I have been told by my school that in Hua Hin they immigration isn't even giving tests yet, they may speak a little Thai to you but that should be no issue for anybody on an EDE visa, heck I am astonished how people can live here for years and not form simple sentences on other visas.

lol

Do you seriously think your school is going to tell you the ugly truth about immigration tests?

I aced the immigration rehearsal test in school: The teacher asked us about 10 questions and I understood and answered them all better than anyone in my class.

At immigration however the questions were asked much faster, the level much higher,talking a little Thai was way not enough after 3 months

I have a very good relationship with my school and it is not in Bangkok or Pattaya. She said to me (not my teacher one of the main staff who I kind of know on a personal level) that right now in Hua Hin there is no standardized testing, but there will be in the near future. I trust her and if she is wrong, well I am prepared so it does't matter too much for me at least

How many times a week does your school staff is present at immigration? ZERO

Things are changing week by week these days

Ever heard of email and or telephone? They are in contact and know what changes are coming, I have been with this school for 4 years, they know what is going on. But yea you know all your stuff after what, how long have you been learning Thai?

I can't advise on the UK NHS issue and you may want to start a thread on that in the "home country" forum.

BUPA Thailand or Cigna International would be my recommendations. You can get online quotes for both of them on their websites. Cigna allows options for co-pay and deductible which BUPA does not. BUPA premiums are less than Cigna (unless you accept a deductible or co-pay in which case they can be the same or less) but levels of coverage are much lower. Basically Cgna's lowest level of cover is more than you will ever need in Thailand and BUPA/THailand's levels are way too low except for their top tier plan (Platinum 5 million baht).

Things to be aware of:

- Neither will cover any pre-exisiting conditions and both may have some waiting periods before you are covered (though probably not in case of accident) so need to research that carefully.

- Insurance regulations in Thailand are looser than in other countries. Cigna International is based in Scotland and as long as you do not miss a payment they can't drop you no matter how many claims you have or what disease you develop, nor can they raise your rates because of prior claims (rates will rise though with age and periodic across the board increases to everyone as costs in general rise). BUPA Thailand on the other hand ran raise your rates by as much as 25% if you have a claim that in their(sometimes odd) judgement changes your "risk profile" and they frequently do this. They can also, if they so choose, drop your coverage at will (or so says their fine print) though that is uncommon in practice. In both instances the effect would kick in at the next renewal time, not instantly, so in case of developing a significant chronic condition there would be the option of returning to the UK and re-establishing residency before it became an issue.

On the other hand, BUPA is by far the best known/most common policy in Thailand and all the hospitals are very familiar with it, and seem able to get approval of costs fast. While I am in the process of changing over from BUPA to Cigna, I have had no experience with Cigna claims process yet so no idea how smooth. They do have direct billing arrangements with most Bangkok hospitals.

If you want to buy yourself some time and/or if you are not sure you will be more than a year more in Thailand, then I'd suggest a travel insurance policy which one can get for up to 12 months. These usually require you to front the money and get reimbursed later. Worlkd Nomads is good and easy to apply and pay for online.

really appreciate the detailed and thorough response, thanks. I am going to be here for at least 12 more months I think, unless I am forced out for whatever reason. Before I left in 2010 my dad told me to get travel insurance but I didn't bother and I must have spent at least 200k since then in hospitals.

It this 2 months thing only a BKK thing or a nationwide thing?

So how does things actually work with staying the full year? You fly into BKK and they stamp you in for 3 months. You go to immigration then get 2 months. Then go to immigration & get another 1 month only after that?? Plus needing to do a MOE test then apply for another 6 month ED visa??

Some people have reported that after 6 months you need to apply for a new ED visa & leave the country, others said you don't. Apparently there is a MOE test you need to do just before the 6 month period to get the 2nd ED visa for another 6 months too.

Is this how it all works?

I would like to know this also, is it just Bangkok and Pattaya? I have been told by my school that in Hua Hin they immigration isn't even giving tests yet, they may speak a little Thai to you but that should be no issue for anybody on an EDE visa, heck I am astonished how people can live here for years and not form simple sentences on other visas.

lol

Do you seriously think your school is going to tell you the ugly truth about immigration tests?

I aced the immigration rehearsal test in school: The teacher asked us about 10 questions and I understood and answered them all better than anyone in my class.

At immigration however the questions were asked much faster, the level much higher,talking a little Thai was way not enough after 3 months

I have a very good relationship with my school and it is not in Bangkok or Pattaya. She said to me (not my teacher one of the main staff who I kind of know on a personal level) that right now in Hua Hin there is no standardized testing, but there will be in the near future. I trust her and if she is wrong, well I am prepared so it does't matter too much for me at least

It this 2 months thing only a BKK thing or a nationwide thing?

So how does things actually work with staying the full year? You fly into BKK and they stamp you in for 3 months. You go to immigration then get 2 months. Then go to immigration & get another 1 month only after that?? Plus needing to do a MOE test then apply for another 6 month ED visa??

Some people have reported that after 6 months you need to apply for a new ED visa & leave the country, others said you don't. Apparently there is a MOE test you need to do just before the 6 month period to get the 2nd ED visa for another 6 months too.

Is this how it all works?

I would like to know this also, is it just Bangkok and Pattaya? I have been told by my school that in Hua Hin they immigration isn't even giving tests yet, they may speak a little Thai to you but that should be no issue for anybody on an EDE visa, heck I am astonished how people can live here for years and not form simple sentences on other visas.

Well here are some words from my English friends.

''My sister is a nhs a&e nurse I can just ask her but I know for a fact if you are a British citizen you are entitled to nhs treatment''

''As long as you a British citizen they will treat you 100%''

Well your English friends and NHS sister is wrong this doent apply to non resident British citizens

They came back about 2 hours later and said that if a UK citizen stays away for 5 years then they will not qualify for the treatment anymore, there were also many more factors but yeah, looks like no more NHS That was maybe one of the only good things going for the UK imo

I got he implant done in Hua Hin btw and it was done over the course of 3 months. The most painful thing was the injection into the roof of the mouth.

I know, I have had injections in the roof of my mouth before and I know I will have them again. I have been told it will take around 4 months to do and 40-50k when finished. He was going to start 2 days ago but my bone in my jaw is too damaged and needs time to repair so I have my first appointment with the injection on the 15th, I know after that initial injection it won't hurt at all, even after it wares off it won't be as bad as when I initially smashed them in, that hurt like hell I almost cried.

Well here are some words from my English friends.

''My sister is a nhs a&e nurse I can just ask her but I know for a fact if you are a British citizen you are entitled to nhs treatment''

''As long as you a British citizen they will treat you 100%''

monk123

If you went home with cancer you would get treated by NHS but you would have to pay.

I put the question out on facebook to any friends back home and they all said that I would still get 100% free treatment if I went back. So I don't know where you got your information from...

monk123

If you went home with cancer you would get treated by NHS but you would have to pay.

That is ludicrous, and lets say my sister who lives there gets cancer, she would get free treatment or is there no such thing as the NHS anymore? Wow the UK really has gone to shit.

monk123 You are a british passport holder. You are not a briish resident , and are not( same as me) entitled to free NHS care.

Nothing to do with David Cameron. it has been that way for some time.

Infact that was introduced by a Labour government.

So if I went home to treat something like cancer I would not be allowed the services of the NHS? Or am I missing something here..

I am firmly in the "don't touch them" camp now after seeing the filters coming out of one, black as coal. One was not looking so bad so they shoved it back in to work for another month, not even for cooking now

Aren't the filters made of coal?, at least one of the three.

Someone showed me this thing, I still don't think it would filter out everything bad you can find in tap water, or even some of the bottled water in this crazy country

http://shop.camelbak.com/groove-6l/d/1204_c_203_cl_4413

lay off the chang, stop banging the girls so much & start buying clean bottled water.

Aren't any of you worried about all of those bottles of water sitting out in the heat of this country on their journey from being bottled to the store? I am referring to BPA due to the water heating up inside of a plastic bottle. Personally I would still stick with soda water in a glass bottle, I am sold on that now.

Glad you feel better OP by the way

Kept to my promise and bought a 24 of Singha soda water, feels good. It's moreish though, which isn't a bad thing.. I would like to know what is in it though, no ingredient listings of what they have added for this stuff, I am guessing a little salt of some kind.

I am 26, the billing I am not too bothered as long as I am covered, probably just Thailand if it works out cheaper seeing as I spend 99% of my time here, and in my home country (England) we have the NHS so there was never any need to get insured. I miss the NHS

I hope you realise that if you are no longer living in the UK you will NOT be covered by the NHS should you need health care on one of your 1% visits.

The days of NHS tourism are over, so best to ensure you have some 'holiday' insurance for your return trips.

What!! So because I am in Thailand and even though I have a British passport and I am a British national I am not entitled to the NHS? Cameron you are a &lt;deleted&gt; &lt;deleted&gt;

Either they give you new card or tell you to go to a police station and make police report for the lost card before they will give you a new one.

It is not a big deal to them. People loose them all the time.

Ok cheers thanks for clearing that up

The worst is being told to get a police report for the lost card. No fine.

Do you have a copy of your card?

Copy of my arrival card? Nope, I have an older card for some reason (not in my passport). What is the most likely thing to happen do you think Joe?

I may have asked this before but I have forgotten and would like some first hand experience or good ol UdonJo to step in. I am heading to immigration for my first 90 day extension on my ED for my 4th year next week (by the way I was told by my school there is no testing YET in Hua Hin at the immigration, but probably will be within a few months), and I have no arrival slip in my passport, I lost it. What is the absolute worst thing that can happen, I assume a fine and how much? Thanks.

I am firmly in the "don't touch them" camp now after seeing the filters coming out of one, black as coal. One was not looking so bad so they shoved it back in to work for another month, not even for cooking now

Yep that decides that then, tomorrow I am going to buy a couple crates of soda water, I wonder if Chang soda water is bad for you in any way, knowing this place it probably is. Maybe the bottles have been recycled and cleaned with nasty chemicals or something.I refuse to turn to Nestle like I said, due to a moral standpoint and I don't like the idea of plastic bottles for various reasons.