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22 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:
George,
I have often wondered just as to why they kept the Battle of Britain flight in such tip top condition and now I know..
With a Spitfire,Hurricane and Lancaster at England's command you should fear nothing from the foe..
Well you never know, all the computer controlled weapons could be disabled with an EMP.
The fact is history is repeating itself by stealth and misinformation unless you keep aware of what the EU are up to.
This is no conspiracy theory, just a look at the demography of the last 50 years and make a comparison.
I can go on, but is it necessary?
Those outside of the equation might not fully understand.
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Just more B/S from dumb officials that don't do their jobs.
Change the speed limits etc, but never enforce the law, what is the point?
What is even more annoying is that a change in the law requires government approval, yet these edicts are proclaimed without sanction.
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20 hours ago, Airbagwill said:Only a Brexiteer could use such impressive and nebulous words as, if they have any concrete value.
It is of course how the hard right manipulates the lumped masses.
You are well named.
"It is of course how the hard right manipulates the lumped masses."
And the hard left are not guilty of that or much worse?
Having laws decided by an overseas (and mostly undemocratic) power that is intent on European expansion is nothing to be considered??/
There were two world wars that started about that last century, which is not that long ago...
Read some history!
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14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:Oh right, so when the UK Conservative Party complain about 'Regulations on business from the EU' that's right wing regulations is it?
Are the EU regulations protecting the environment right wing regulations?
How about EU regulations on the banks (that the Tories are eager to get rid of) are those right wing regulations.
Let's not forget EU laws on human rights, gosh more rightwing stuff.
EU laws on protecting personal privacy, sickening righwing EU thinking.
EU courts forcing corporations to pay more tax - a sneaky rightwing plot.
The EU and that idea they have to enact the Common Consolidated Tax Base and in doing so close loop holes businesses use to dodge tax - More EU rightwing laws thankfully delayed by the objections of Britain's left wing Tory government.
Away with you and your nonsense claims George.
And the bill to include All EU laws to the date of the end of the "Transitional Period" that parliament will vote on any they wish to change thereafter.
I think you miss the point.
Brexit is a cross party, individual decision which has supporters and dissenters on all sides.
The majority voted to leave (by a bigger voter margin than in any general election in living memory).
The argument time is over. The UK will leave the EU.
The next general election in 2022 is the only option to make a change which will mean reapplying to join if a party with a manifesto that puts that top priority wins, or can make a ruling coalition in a hung vote.
The points you make are not valid unless I had made the comparison with the EU a semi-communist dictatorship. I could easily do that, just have a look at the EU's record of undemocratic appointments.
Start with Junker's protege last month.
The bail out of the banks was done by an unelected labour PM Gordon Brown don't forget.
You need to study this situation more carefully.
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20 hours ago, nauseus said:
What are you on about? Read my other posts.
I have not read 223 pages of posts, however I did read the last few posts you made.
If you would enlighten me on you viewpoint on this subject that explains why you do not understand my reply I will be happy to reply and set you straight.
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Just now, Grouse said:
Have you not gone to bed yet?
I just blew the candle out.
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7 minutes ago, Justfine said:
"The tragedy of Europe has socialism at its core. Europe has flirted with socialism since the late nineteenth century. Nineteenth century Bismarckian socialism produced two world wars. Leninist socialism slaughtered and enslaved hundreds of millions until it collapsed, mercifully without a third world war. Yet, not to be deterred, in the ashes of World War II, Europe’s socialists embarked on a new socialist dream. If socialism fails in one country, perhaps it will succeed if all of Europe joined a supra-national socialist organization. Oh, they don't call what has evolved from this dream “socialism,” but it is socialism nonetheless."
Yep and socialism of a kind that is akin to the Communism and the none democratic pursuit of power and wealth for the elite.
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3 minutes ago, Justfine said:
https://mises.org/library/greece-illustrates-150-years-socialist-failure-europe
150 years of failed socialism.
Amazing that some poms still don't get it. Talk about slow learners.
Brexit is not about party or political allegiances, it is about self determination and freedom.
Unfortunately not all UK voters can see this at the moment.
However they should live to see it and their offspring will benefit.
That's politics...
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12 hours ago, Airbagwill said:
Really referendum is irrelevant - the original is flawed in concept and basically the whole kit-and-caboodle should be thrown out... period.
Move to France while you can......
The UK is leaving, you are in terminal denial.
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7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:I don't disagree with that.
My point is the Labour Party has no business aligning itself with the rightwing project that is Brexit.
Never a right wing project, if you look into the details the EU is a VERY right wing project.
People that want out are seeking self government and a fair democratic system.
Forget the smoke and mirrors, look at what is happening.
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7 hours ago, nauseus said:
You didn't, I did. Meaning that the preference of most Labour MPs was/is to remain in the EU, whatever the Lab party line may be.
Err... and your 35 year long Euro skeptic backbencher that now leads the party?
A huge number of labour voters supported Brexit too don't forget as they are the ones getting screwed.
Read some background before you comment.
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7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Where did I ever mention the 'preferences of MPs'?
My exact words were:
I find it even more disturbing that the Labour Party have aligned with the hard-rightwing leadership of the Brexit campaign and the racism and xenophobia that is deeply embedded in the Brexit campaign.
No, just common sense.
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18 hours ago, Airbagwill said:BBC is getting proudly criticised for being pro Brexit.
By whom exactly???
Can you show me something from the Daily Mirror even?
BBC has been pro-EU since Cameron announced a referendum in his election campaign for 2015.
I see no difference now. Maybe a few, more balanced news/politics formats see both sides, otherwise it is anti-Brexit.
Anyway, the game is over.
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So the answer is to have a team of police watching Social Media video clips. Brilliant!
I hope it also shows up, but doubtless will be ignored, the money collection by the cops at the "check point" cash machines.
It might find a few offenders guilty, but it is no solution to the carnage.
Just another easy way out of making the police do the work they are employed to do.
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22 hours ago, Slip said:
Fact is you don't know any more than he does, but you still preach 'remoan' and 'fear'.
The article was written by Zoe Williams in the pro-EU Grauniad.
You need to study this subject a little more before you comment!
Game is over anyway...
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5 minutes ago, Grouse said:Read the attachment. I know it's dry and boring but it does explain the situation well. Certainly the system could be improved/simplified/clarified but it is democratic
Just like the appointment of this guy last month.
Martin Selmayr has been appointed Secretary-General of the Commission, the organisation that monitors whether countries are sticking to EU rules, dreams up new laws and runs the Brexit talks day-to-day.
From the BBC website (another pro-EU organisation).
Stop making excuses.
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14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:
If I may politely enquire: Of what history are you concerned?
If I'm not mistaken, is Honey Hotel famed for being an R & R place for GI's to bring back the hookers? - well, I suppose that's still history...
Concerning history, it is disappointing that some of Bangkok's architectural heritage is being or has been removed, examples such as the original Siam Intercontinental hotel... others seem to have a colorful history, but are otherwise concrete blocks...
Siam Intercontinental Hotel, well it was a shame to see it go.
The rooms were in the low level concrete blocks behind the main and rather lovely building.
I spent a couple of nice evenings there.
As for the Honey, yes many people must have memories.
Only a few survivors of the old haunts from the 60/70/80s left and most of those have been renovated.
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22 hours ago, Grouse said:
And time for the UK to come to our senses and stop this Brexit idiocy!
Read the pro-EU Financial Times report...
(Sorry, the link in my last post [#3137] sends you to "subscribe".)
The idiocy is in the Remoaners camp as the game is up.
The UK is democratic, unlike the EU.
Cheers, G
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Today's Financial Times (FT) had an interesting article all should read if you haven't yet.
The FT is very much pro-EU but the article outlines the Remoaners last hope and where we are in the process of leaving.
https://www.ft.com/content/98a2c89a-37ef-11e8-8b98-2f31af407cc8
I read the whole thing (which is not always available unless you subscribe).
The conclusion I came to, which the article doesn't actually state but points directly to, is pretty obvious:
The EU are resigned to it and the UK is now too far down the line to make a U-Turn without a mandate and a 2nd Referendum has been ruled out by both the government and opposition.
The only alternative Remoaners have is to abandon normal Party Politics at the next General Election (May 2022) and win it with a majority on a "Remain Ticket" with an all Pro-EU candidate party.
You could get Tony Blair or Neil Kinnock to lead it.
If of course if they win, the process to rejoin the EU can begin, and negotiations will start again.
I don't see the point of further argument for a couple of years.
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On 4/1/2018 at 7:15 AM, tebee said:
Brexit is a lie, even many Brexiters believe their own ideology in theory but not in detail. Brexit hasn’t unfolded as they expected, the whole thing stinks. This is true particularly of British politicians, civil servants, business leaders or even many Brexit-cheerleading journalists, they don't believe the official state ideology of Brexit. But to admit that lie publicly would be embarrassing and a loss of face, they just mouth the slogans.
Brexit has created a two-faced ruling class in London. The populist policy of Brexit has made the populist claim come true: Britain’s elite lies. And this will worsen after Brexit, Britain’s ruling class hasn’t prepared the population for pain from Brexit. Any hardship will further dent trust in government. The backlash could be either extreme nationalist or extreme left, while the ruling class whines: “But we never believed the silly idea to start with!
Ordinary working Brexit believers, they think nothing bad has happened, so the remainers are wrong, so Brexit is going to just fine. They just don’t understand why it is taking so long and why the NHS hasn’t had more money yet, but their belief is unshakable.
When the final deal comes out and truth can’t be ignored any longer, they will blame others. They are immune to arguments and logic (as are many remainers); this is a new religion.
The leaders of the Tory / UKIP far right are what they accuse remainers of being; traitors. And their foot soldiers, willing fools. Saying it achieves nothing. We need a better way of fighting back and exposing the hypocrisy, but I haven’t found it yet.
Complete and utter rubbish.....
You need some history lessons and a reality check on what the EU is actually about.
Remoaners and the Fear campaign told the country what they thought (and yourself) might happen.
Fact is they were wrong and so are you.
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17 hours ago, transam said:
I think colour fade is a bit of a myth with modern day paints regarding the sun ..
A respray in LOS is cheap compared to farangland..
True, but you would not pay as much for the car. 15K on an 80-90k car is a big expense.
In the west rust is the problem, depending on where you live of course.
I see many older cars here with paint damage due to the sun.
The OP only wants transport, not "face".
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3 hours ago, Grouse said:
Nope. Try again
Another glass of the cheap stuff is in order I think.
Fact is, negotiating the split will take time. The UK fishing industry is now depleted and needs time, plus the financial sector deal is not done.
To quote the Frenchman: "Nothing is settled until everything is settled."
An extra 21 months under EU rule in a transition will give the UK the most important thing; time to get trade deals done.
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On 4/1/2018 at 4:06 AM, AYJAYDEE said:
FT is pro-EU and I will not take a subscription to read the article......
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Brexit has created chaos in Britain – nobody voted for this
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Okay, but are you pro or anti Brexit and what is your own interest in it?
A line or two might give me a better idea what you have an objection to in my comment/reply.
Did you read all my posts on this thread? All 229 pages, and you never missed one?
Your recent posts suggest you are pro-EU, is that not correct?
Please clear this up.