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1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Interesting to me that she removed Boonsong from his post of Ministry of Commerce and the court still convict her for not stopping the corruption. Can't help thinking about Chuan and Ahbisit non action to remove Suthep when he was charged for those criminal scandals. Well at least in Yingluck case, one judge said she was not guilty and in a jury system there will be no conviction. But this is Thailand. 

More obfuscation (and brown-nosing) Eric? Removing Boonsong didn't stop the ongoing deals, did it? It didn't stop her favourite dodgy rice dealer from filling his pockets, and if he ever decides to talk about who he was paying kickbacks to, you're going to have your work cut out for you.

Supreme Court does not involve juries, and an 8-1 decision leaves little doubt of guilt

6 minutes ago, greenchair said:

Well shouldn't the heads of dsi and oag be in the courts also. 

After all they investigated it. 

They knew about it. 

They did not and still have not done anything to prosecute all those involved. 

If they want to prosecute her for knowing about and not stopping it, 

Then they must prosecute the people that informed her, knew about it and failed to stop it. 

All guilty 157.

BS. "They did not and still have not done anything to prosecute all those involved." Tell that to Yingluk, Boonsong, Apichart and all the others convicted and sitting in a cell right now.  Do you think denigrating those who are doing their job somehow absolves the person who didn't?

On 9/27/2017 at 7:06 AM, Thechook said:

On par with beer prices in Australia now.

You have been away from home far too long.

https://m.danmurphys.com.au/product/DM_38175/victoria-bitter-bottles-375ml   That is B1250 @ B25/AU$

https://shoponline.tescolotus.com/groceries/en-GB/shop/beverages-snacks-and-desserts/alcoholic-beverages/beer/all

Chang 24x320mL B708.  Slightly smaller bottles, much lower price.

42 minutes ago, elgenon said:

How long does she need to stay out of the country? Until the "reds" win the next election?

After they win the election they will have to pass an amnesty for all their criminals. Easier said than done.

4 hours ago, jonclark said:

And the government has stated from day1 that her aunt is guilty quite a few times too.

 

In thailand guilt and innocence does not translate into being right or wrong. You can be guilty..but still be right. 

That's an interesting concept. Do you believe that after removing Boonsong for creating fraudulent G2G deals, she was right in not stopping those deals? The court calls it negligence, but given the involvement of Apichart, favoured rice trader of Thaksin and Yingluk despite a history of failed companies and huge government debts, it smells a lot like corruption to me.

I'm wondering why a man who can't service his loans, and is applying to borrow another B9.9 billion, is writing B10 million cheques to Oak. i.e. assuming the timing is as stated in the OP.

She has said her aunt is innocent quite a few times.

".... he was not afraid of her police complaint because he had studied the law. "

And I'm afraid he is right. MY lawyer, no connection to my wife, explained that under Thai, a (registered) married couple are the same legal entity, and cannot sue each other. All property (in Thailand AFAIK) is jointly owned.

3 hours ago, Ossy said:

'No indication' probably means no idea. . . an ideal precursor to trade talks . . . a PM with no idea about what would be of most value to Thailand. On the bright side, however, and with Tourism's cunning plan about to bring in more traffic, I reckon Prayuth will take a quick look at Najib's big jet purchases and tell Trump to order the same all round . . . plus 10%, just as a 'thank-you' for greasing his ego.

The 'no idea' belongs to the author, not the PM. There is no logical link between a journalist not knowing what the PM is seeking and the PM having the same lack of knowledge.

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

"...in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in any political activities".

 

Did she get permission from her clone / puppet master to make this statement?

I believe this a requirement to obtain residence permission. IIRC the same demand was made of Thaksin, whether they enforce it is another matter.

9 minutes ago, baboon said:

Who says they did? Just one man who is well known to be creative with the truth.

I count at least 3, you LG and Binjalin.

10 minutes ago, baboon said:

And? My link proves extradition between the two countries are still perfectly possible.

He didn't say it was impossible, he said there is no extradition treaty.

1 minute ago, baboon said:

It doesn't say he has spoken to either. It says that he says and we know how creative he is with the truth - well most of us, that is...

Oh really? How did the authorities in Dubai promise something without communication? That she was in Dubai, had promised not to be involved in politics, and that Dubai would watch her can be contained in that simple conversation.

But I'm having fantasies, while your claim has absolutely no credibility.

9 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

"Earlier Phansak Seuakhumsaeng of Nang Rong district in Buriram had reported winning the lottery to police, as is the custom for big wins in Thailand. But within a couple of days he had lost his tickets."

 

Seriously? Why? To share the winnings??

 

Cops to Phansak: "So, when are we going to get our share?" - "Ahem... I kinda must have, somehow, lost the tickets, sorry..."

 

Back during the war on drugs a couple who had won the lottery kept quiet about it. Their house was riddled with bullets by local BIB who suspected they were drug dealers.

2 hours ago, baboon said:

Sorry pal, that one doesn't wash:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/taiwan/7264827/Briton-to-be-extradited-from-Thailand-to-Dubai.html

Are you really that poor at reading? Did you miss "There is no extradition treaty between Thailand and the UAE." in your own link.

3 hours ago, baboon said:

So let me get this straight:

She vanishes like a puff of smoke from under the watchful eye of the junta. Who have not prosecuted anyone in connection with her 'escape'. And who don't know where she is but she is in Dubai. Yet she has promised not to be involved in politics, despite there being no communication. And we are expected to take all this at face value?

I mean, is it just me or what?

Yes it is you and your poor comprehension skills. Read the first 2 paragraphs again, they clearly state there has been communication with Dubai authorities. Nowhere is the any indication of communication with Yingluk, only that a promise was made. To whom? Dubai authorities.

34 minutes ago, binjalin said:

Prawit said "she has promised" so I think, for one, that it is a fair assumption. I'm aghast you are so defensive of these guys.

I make a logical conclusion from the statement made, with evidence to back it, but you think the opposite is a "fair assumption"? Based on what?

46 minutes ago, baboon said:

It isn't even known she is in Dubai. It isn't known that she has even applied for a residency permit, let alone been granted one, nor is it known under what conditions residency / asylum would be granted. It isn't known that the UAE government have had any contact with the Thai junta regarding Yingluck, yet you are accusing LannaGuy of being a fantasist when it is as plain as the cut out nose on your face that you are simply making stuff up as you go along? Dear oh dear...

"Fugitive former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra is in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in any political activities, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said on Thursday.

Authorities in Dubai have also promised the Thai Foreign Ministry that they would keep an eye on Yingluck and ensure she did not take part in any political campaigns, Prawit said."

Read it - does that say that he spoken to Yingluk or Dubai authorities? And now it is claimed she has been in London for over 2 weeks. Perhaps she didn't know where she was.

Even if Prawit has spoken to her, and I don't concede he has, how does that lead to the conclusion she had junta assistance made by LG?

Just now, LannaGuy said:

all 'perhaps'es' huh? I think she was silent waiting for the verdict but you don't know and I don't know so how about you stop guessing? 

How about I stop guessing when you continually make assumptions based on nothing? Do you evidence of any conversation between the government of Yingluk? which is the more likely, my explanation or yours?

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

You are such positive guy thinking that blatant corruption has stop running now and crony corruption agencies are working well with less than 1 out of 10 conviction and mostly against a selected political target. Keep it up old chap. 

If it is so blatant, where are the examples? you do know the meaning of "blatant"?

1 hour ago, LannaGuy said:

Your deputy PM said it - got it now?  I think it's obvious that he has spoken to her  and that is LOGICAL because he said so "she has promised" 

You think it is obvious, well that makes it true. OTOH Dubai, an otherwise friendly country, may have had the courtesy of informing the Thai government that a controversial citizen has been granted amnesty/residence, and would have stated  exactly what was released.

But no, you would rather let your fantasies be reality.

BTW why do you think she has been silent? Waiting for permission to stat to be granted perhaps.

36 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

 

former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra is in Dubai and has promised not to be involved in any political activities, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan said on Thursday

 

Well 'surprise, surprise' all part of 'the deal' no doubt and after a nice little 'chat' - how else would he know?  still contest your Junta did not know?

You really do have a problem with logic, don't you? Her promise not to be involved in Thai politics is a requirement of Dubai to allow her residence.

How you construe that to connect to her alleged assisted escape is bizarre.

19 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Those were the days of opposition parties in Parliament, media and corruption agencies seizing on those personal deals. Those distance memory replaced by a rubber stamping NLA, intimidated media and crony corruption agencies. 

Yes Eric, I remember those days well. Up to the day the Myanmar telecommunication loan was announced, I was politically neutral. The moral outrage that such blatant corruption caused still runs hot, and the Yingluk era certainly did nothing to dampen it.

Those 'crony' corruption agencies are working well, I can only assume their funding was restored, and I can certainly see how a Shin supporter would see them as an enemy. Revealing Shin crimes surely arouses antagonism.

4 minutes ago, Becker said:

No, he has done one better - he has illegally appointed himself as junta chief and self styled PM!

 You walked right into that one.

Walked into what. It was a contrast between 2 governments attempts to 'reform' the RTP.

2 minutes ago, Becker said:

In direct opposition to what facts?

Try to understand, the right to ask question is obtained by answers to question asked. You routinely don't answer mine because they are uncomfortable for you, but feel you have the right to keep asking, usually in an attempt to divert the topic..

The facts revealed that Yingluk was assisted by corrupt police. again, what part does the junta play in that scenario? Oh that's right, they should reform the RTP or they are incompetent or stupid. Which doesn't answer the question.