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Working people in Britain are exhausted. They are grafting 50–60 hour weeks, paying through the nose for fuel, bills, council tax, and mortgages—while being told there’s no money for them.

Meanwhile, we see migrants, many of them young men, put up in hotels with no bills, phones in hand, and no contributions to the system we keep afloat.

It’s no wonder people are angry. British women don’t feel safe walking alone any more, and we’re told to just accept it in silence.

But here’s the truth: —we’re being failed by a government that mismanages immigration, strips public services, and demands more from working-class people. That's how Labour works and always has been. Kier Starmer's comments last year were, ' We are going to smash the gangs transporting migrants to Britain '  instead, it has gone from bad to worse.

It’s not ‘compassion’ to house people in hotels for years—it’s chaos.

And it’s not ‘racist’ to want borders, safety, and fairness.

We need policies that protect workers, respect our communities, and hold the powerful to account—not ones that make ordinary people pay for elite failure.

4 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

I would say they absolutely were an attack on people who use food banks. You did not see anybody who looked like a nurse, well I wouldn't expect the to turn up in their uniform. You did believe that many of them were drug users getting the food to sell. Now stealing food to sell, I don't condone it but that makes sense. Getting food from a food bank to sell, doesn't make sense.

I want to clarify that my comments were never meant as an attack on people who use food banks. I simply described what I saw firsthand and also shared insights from someone who actually lives and works in the UK.

Likewise, I understand this is a sensitive topic, and I can see how my words may have come across as judgmental to some. However, some here just refuse to address that we have a massive problem.

The reality is that it’s hard to know someone’s full story just by looking at them—and that goes both ways.

I know that many people who rely on food banks are in genuine need, and I fully support their right to access that help. It is a shame that in 2025 we have come to that.

That said, I don’t think it’s wrong to also discuss whether there are cases of misuse or whether the system is always working as intended.

Being able to have those conversations openly shouldn’t automatically mean you're attacking people in need.

What makes sense and what doesn't make sense to somebody obtaining free food from a food bank to sell on cheaply, you would have to ask them. 

Drug users are not rational people, they are opportunists. Why do we see them selling washing powder in the city centres and not designer perfume?

It's because they are opportunists and that is what is available and they can get their hands on easily.

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

 

Actually the same thing is happening in canada. I arrived 2 months ago back to my Toronto condo and what he's describing is word for word situation here.

 

It turns out as per latest budget that it costs 135,000 thousand dollars to support a single homeless person. For that kind of money no one should be homeless.

 

It is obvious that "homelessness" has become a nice business and is benefiting someone.  This has nothing to do with bad area or good area as the next homeless "shelter" could be moved next to you then watch yourself change your tune overnight.

 

BTW the food and even drugs they get for free is absolutely being resold. The funniest thing the Starbucks next to the park where the food was being donated near where I live was full of those homeless buying lattes. 

 

 

Thanks,

But on this board we always get the deniers and naysayers, the Labour lefties and the woke brigade, even though many haven't been to the UK in years and some, probably never been North of Watford Gap.

However, they feel obliged to attack, find fault and criticise a person posts who has recently been there and seen it first hand.

They are offering nothing in the way of their experiences of the UK currently-  but feel their opinions are valid sat behind a computer screen in Thailand. 

Then at every twist and turn, they blame Tory rule over the last 15 years, when it was, in fact, Labour under Tony Blair that allowed uncontrolled immigration.

Canada seems to be going through a similar shift, with rising pressures around migration and homelessness.

In regard to the UK, it's frustrating to see some people constantly deny the obvious issues we’re facing. Instead of holding the current government accountable, they deflect and keep blaming the previous one.

The reality is, things are a mess right now – and pretending otherwise helps no one.

We need real solutions, not just political blame games."

Full list of shameful broken promises from a man elected on a pack of lies:-

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/starmers-broken-promises/

1 hour ago, Geoff914 said:

You may be a British tax payer but you live in Thailand on a retirement visa so don't actually live in the UK. Sounds like you son took you on a tour of the worst parts of which ever town he lives in. I actually live here and as bad as it is how you describe it is not typical. You said "I drove past and saw queues outside food banks. I was told by my son, that many were not desperate, they were begging food then selling it cheap to buy drugs," And how does you son know. Sounds like a highly opinionated person to me. There are many working people who have to rely on food banks to live. I have never heard of people scrounging stuff from food banks to sell. Why would anybody buy food from a drug user when you could just go to the food bank and buy the food there. Yes nurses and other low paid rely on food banks. That is is what 15 years of Tory rule has done to this country. And before you say no I do not support Labour. No doubt I could be taken on a tour of the Thai slums, or any other country, then formulate an opinion of the country based on that. Attacking people unfortunate enough to need to use food banks and describing them as drug users is a pretty low blow. Plenty of drug users are well off and the filthy rich. Why attack less well off people as drug users. 

Let me set the record straight.

Firstly, being a British taxpayer is not dependent on my current place of residence. I’ve contributed to the UK system for many years, and I still do. That gives me every right to voice my opinions about the state of the country — especially when they come from direct observation and personal experience.

Secondly, my comments were not an “attack” on people who use food banks. I described what I saw with my own eyes and what was shared with me by someone who lives and works in the UK.

If you disagree with that perspective, you are entitled to your view — but it doesn’t make mine invalid or dishonest.

To suggest I was broadly labelling all food bank users as drug users is disingenuous. I never said or implied that. I acknowledged a very real concern — that in some cases, people may exploit a system meant to help the vulnerable.

That doesn’t deny the existence of real, hardworking people who rely on food banks. In fact, I find it tragic that this is necessary in a developed country like the UK.

Also, drawing comparisons with slums in Thailand to somehow invalidate my observations is both irrelevant and a deflection.

Every country has its challenges — but I was commenting on the decline in living standards in the UK, which is a legitimate concern shared by many, including those who still live there.

You’re free to disagree with my views.

But misrepresenting them to make a point weakens your own argument.

If we want to have a genuine discussion about the problems the UK faces, let’s do so honestly, without twisting words or making personal attacks, especially in regard to my son.

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are probably getting two different things mixed up .

Hotel rooms costing 50 Quid a night and five year contracts to HMO owners .

  Seems like you stuck those two together and arrived at five year contracts to HMO's at  50 Quid a night 

No,

The HMO owner says that is what he has been offered, and he owns HMOs, not hotels.

He said the councils were in dire straits as they had run out of hotels to put them.

12 hours ago, Formaleins said:

You can see just why the UK and the West is in such a mess simply by reading the "usual" responses from the "Usual" suspects on this forum - They are sitting there like either the proverbially frog in the pan of cold water, with the gas on and heating up, getting a bit warmer eh? They will still be sitting their spouting their usual woke anti racists "Antifa Crap" - Then there is the other group, the Nero brigade, gladly fiddling away while they watch their Rome burn.

A perfectly well written well observed honest post just letting us know how it is in our once proud homes, as we see them turned into the third world rape havens for muslims. Get a life, take a look around you, are you blind?

I completely agree,

The way some posters here react, you’d think I was celebrating the decline of specific areas, which I most certainly am not—my own family still lives there.

Many of those commenting either haven’t been to the North of England or haven’t visited the UK in recent years.

In my post, I mentioned that visiting North Yorkshire felt like stepping into a different world—it was refreshing and an absolute pleasure.

Unfortunately, many towns and cities in the North have seen significant decline. Inner urban areas are struggling with underinvestment, high street decay, and a lack of meaningful opportunities.

It's disheartening to see so many once-thriving communities now facing social and economic hardship.

Those from more affluent parts of the South may not have witnessed these changes firsthand. That doesn't make these observations any less real.

There is growing frustration among working taxpayers nationwide. When people feel ignored or overwhelmed by rapid change without adequate support or consultation, unrest becomes a very real risk.

So while not everyone commenting may be familiar with these areas or experiences, that doesn’t make the concerns any less valid.

11 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

The Daily Express! Oh dear me. Is that still going? And does anyone really read it? It's simply not a reputable organ!

So now the respondent can't win, you ask for links, he provides them, and then you want to trash the source of the link, which is a Daily newspaper in the UK.

Here is an independent report on the Daily Express that finds them no better or worse than any other source.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-express/

13 minutes ago, Celsius said:

 

7 years ago while flying Filipinz airlines I was the only white mug that got searched arriving to Toronto. After he went through my suitcase and found nothing I asked why was me the only white mug being searched.

 

He saod that is how we do things in Canada.

In my view, that was simply a catch-all answer to your question, because they ' profiled ' you without justification.

3 hours ago, Jumbo1968 said:

It is, 5 years deals for private landlords,

https://www.landlordtoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2025/04/government-to-offer-landlords-five-year-deals-to-house-migrants/

 

They are according to my sources.

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That link doesn't back up the claim . 

The claim made was that the Government was offering 50 Quid a night to HMO owners, 

   That is the bit I was questioning .

The money being offered was the bit I claimed wasn't true .

HMO owners are not being offered 50 Quid a night to house immigrants 

However, you are disputing a friend of mine's comments, who works for a primary HMO owner, who told him that.

He had nothing to gain by making it up, and suggested I look into it.

I have since heard from others that they leave the premises in a disgusting state.

Although the government offers to bring the places back up to standard, they don't use quality materials on a like-for-like basis, opting instead for very cheap alternatives.

When I disagree with the government's policy on housing these migrants, my conscience would not allow me to go down that route to make money.

8 minutes ago, stuandjulie said:

Well as they won the last by election with way more than 11% of the vote makes that comment bs.

8 minutes ago, stuandjulie said:

Well as they won the last by election with way more than 11% of the vote makes that comment bs.

No BS about it, if there was an election tomorrow, they would get annihilated. 

4 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

If that is the attitude then us British that still live here don't want you here. For Gods sake nurses are paid so badly they have to go to food banks. Your son doesn't know what he is talking about. May be a few do but "many" is simply rubbish.

 

It's not up to you if you want me there or not. I am a working British taxpayer, so it's a daft comment, and you say it as if you have the power to prevent me from coming and reporting what I see on a message board.

What a silly thing to say.

The ones I saw whilst in the car with my son didn't look like nurses to me!!

4 hours ago, BusyB said:

 

Agreed. One of my favorites. With the Nana Plaza excitement at one end and Benjakiti Park down at the other.

 

Would you mind telling me how you got from there to the airport? Taxi? Hotel taxi? Meter or fixed fare? Price? Novotel shuttle to Nana and BTS/ARL? 

 

I'm looking at the same trip in a week or so and although familiar have never gone Novotel - Swampy.

 

Cheers.

A driver stopped me in the car park by the Nana hotel as I was passing a small food stall and offered me a flat fee for the airport at 500 baht and would pick me up at the Novotel, which he did.

For a taxi, just walk into the Nana hotel car park, they always loiter there looking for fares. I booked him for the following day.

Nothing says “thank you for my romantic success” quite like flinging your underwear into the sea.

Truly, the goddess must be uplifted in more ways than one.

1 hour ago, willip said:

 

I am in issan, and it's seriously boring, and seriously nothing to see. Maybe a visit to dinosaur museum.  Where they have alot of plastic dinosaur 🦕 bones, and of course the farrang have to pay a donation with your photograph taken. (Give it a miss).

I took some visitors there the other month and there were no donations required.

In Isaarn, which covers a vast area with many provinces, you have to get out there and get proactive to see what's going on.

There's no Soi 6 or Nana plaza up here, and long may that continue.

We do have women's bars, but they aren't in your face screaming "' Hello' hansom man "

It's very peaceful and laid back where I live and if a person wants more action, there is Khonkaen, Maha Sarakham, Nakhon Panom, Buri Ram to name but a few.

I have just gone 63, and I enjoy my house, the new Gym that has opened, we have a great lake in the centre of town with a running track around it and picnic areas, The lake has some very good clean hotels there at 500 baht a night, it Has restaurants on the lake with live entertainment.

We have the rocket festivals, there are all the other festivals throughout the year from Songkran to Loy Krathong,

Roi Et airport is the gateway to be in Bangkok in an hour and the ability to fly anywhere in Asia.

We live in a great climate, it's laid back.

It beats Wigan or Liverpool on a wet Wednesday!.....😁

5 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Unfortunately I have to agree .... successive governments have destroyed the country.

Well,

You are right there, most of them spend more time undoing the policies of the previous government than they do focussing on the important things of the day.

Blair was the one who swamped the country with uncontrolled immigration.

47 minutes ago, Blueman1 said:

I've been Here for 9 Years now, It's NOT Really that bad Yeno.....

I've been up here in isaarn since 2006, believe me, there was NOTHING here then.

I like it. And I came from a full on life with businesses in Pattaya.

1 hour ago, Red Forever said:

No it wasn’t. What I read of it was an increasingly racist rant.

 I bet you believe that all of your perceived misery in UK began on July 4th 2024.

Backpedalling and trying to justify your nonsense post, which was entirely without basis.

The thread was certainly not racist. Point out the racism in the post? Or is it, you just don't like factual reports?

Why would my misery have begun on July 4th 2024?

BTW, Where does it say in my post as you incorrectly asserted that I flew into Heathrow and was met by a Pakistani immigration officer?

You are just a clown who cannot read, aren't you?

You then refuse to acknowledge your mistake like a typical Labour lefty 

4 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I note that you flew to Manchester, but you don’t really say which specific parts of England you visited. The country is is in danger of becoming a failed state imho, but not really for the reasons you describe.

 

I usually visit Cornwall (where my mother lives) and St Albans ( where my son lives) and visually both are very nice places with none of the slum type conditions you describe.

 

But having said that, it’s clearly evident that most aspects of British life are suffering from systemic overload. NHS, finding a dentist, roads, motorways, airports, passport issuance, every aspect of British life that  that I experience is overloaded to the extreme and in danger of breaking down. Delays to achieve virtually anything are very long and getting longer. There is simply no slack in functions of public life and zero planning for the future.

 

Take the NHS, something I know quite well since my mother is elderly and in need of constant care. There are no spare hospital beds in Cornwall and patients, such as my mother, routinely spend nights in an ambulance in the hospital car park.
 

Ok, that’s the current position. So how many new hospitals are being built in Cornwall? Answer: none. Instead they keep trying to squeeze more out of the current situation by not hospitalising people or, simply letting waiting times get longer and longer.

 

So that’s just one example of what I am trying to explain and why I would never live in England and why my sister also left two years ago to live overseas. 
 

The country’s infrastructure is slowly breaking down.

Hi,

I did actually list further down in another post in this thread all the towns and cities I visited, but they were all in The North and all were in close proximity to one another by car.

It seems to be OK going the other way, I sent additional information to HMPO on May 27th, and they received it June 4th.

Thailand Post track and trace but not EMS

17 minutes ago, Expat68 said:

 

Wow! Wow!

I was reading your post and I thought to myself this is not the England I visited in the last two weeks, then I came to the bit about North Yorkshire. I am feeling so lucky that all my life has been living there, you are correct, it has been 13 years since I have been home and it has not changed 

North Yorkshire was excellent.

24 minutes ago, iaminwa said:

You forgot to mention the good stuff:

 

Wine 50% cheaper than Thailand - and I drink a lot of wine. (was quite often corked in Thailand due to the heat and mishandling).

Spirits 50% cheaper than Thailand - and I drink a lot of spirits.

Good cheap salads and vegetables.

Cheaper good quality steaks.

Clean air.

You can see the stars at night.

Free health insurance.

I can drive or ride again on safe roads.

Forced home during COVID, and love it. Been back to Thailand a few times since COVID, and it now sucks with prices now 40 - 50% higher on everything.

Many signs pointing to Thai banks now pulling into line with International standards/reporting, and signs government is looking to tax Farangs living in Thailand such as Digital Nomads and Oil and Gas workers etc.

Stupid lady drink quotas in bars etc. etc. etc.

 

 

No taxi scams.

 

1. Yes, wine, I bought it cheap and drank plenty of it.

2. I didn't buy spirits.

3. Salads and veg I ate plenty.

4. I have private insurance both in Thailand and the UK.

5. I drive on both sets of roads, I drive a lot in Thailand without a problem.

6. Doesn't apply to me.

7.I am already registered for tax in Thailand AND England.

8. I am not a digital nomad.

9. I don't go to lady bars, I am with current partner 29 years.

53 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

The OP became more racist as he droned on and on. I stopped reading his racist drivel when he seemed irked that he was allowed into Heathrow by a “Pakistani” (bet he wasn’t) immigration officer.

 I spent January in UK and saw none of the misery that the OP described but I guess that’s because I wasn’t looking for and hoping to find such misery as the UK hating OP.

Then you have commented and opened your mouth without reading the post properly .

You didn't stop reading the post, you didn't read it at all.

1. I didn't fly into Heathrow and nowhere in my post have I suggested that, nor in my post was I allowed into Heathrow by a Pakistani immigration officer. I flew in to MANCHESTER.

So, why are you telling blatant lies?

2. I flew into Manchester from Doha.

3. I do not hate the UK in any shape or form, I have two sons and Siblings there, and I still do business there in house building.

Where do you get off on here telling outrageous untruths?