richard_smith237

and... on the CDC Vaccine Committees decision to end their Hepatitis B Vaccine Recommendation for babies who are no risk of Hepatitis B...

The ACIP changed the birth-dose recommendation for hepatitis B vaccine among newborns whose mothers test negative. But that’s a policy update, not a scientific condemnation.

The decades-long universal schedule cut pediatric hepatitis B by ~99%, saving countless lives.

11 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Here you are showing your bias as you obviously don't pay any attention to what challenges your belief. Three examples:

 

United States Secretary of Health and Human Services Kennedy, August 5, 2025:

 

"After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH and FDA, HHS has determined that mRNA technology poses more risks than benefits for these respiratory viruses."

 

You’re confusing a policy shift with a scientific verdict.

Yes... RFK Jr’s HHS decided to wind down mRNA development for future respiratory-virus vaccines. That’s a political decision about funding priorities, not a declaration that “anti-vaxxers were right all along”.

If the science had suddenly proven mRNA vaccines were broadly harmful, we’d see something very simple:
withdrawals, recalls, or revised safety warnings.

We have none of those. Just funding redirection.

The move reflects known limitations with mRNA against fast-mutating respiratory viruses, not validation of fringe claims about cancer, infertility, mass deaths, DNA alteration, sterilisation, or whatever the conspiracy flavour of the week is.

mRNA COVID vaccines are still documented in thousands of peer-reviewed studies to have prevented millions of hospitalisations and deaths. That body of evidence doesn’t evaporate because an administration changes its research budget.

So no.... citing a political announcement doesn’t suddenly make YouTube anecdotes, unverifiable “studies no one can publish”, or fringe talking points scientifically credible.

It just means a new HHS secretary prefers a different R&D strategy.

Evidence is determined by data - not by who holds the microphone in Washington.

3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

I know I am dealing with a faith system when I see footage such as the one below: top infectious disease specialist Dr. Zervos acknowledges the validity of a study showing that unvaccinated children are healthier than vaccinated ones, but is adamant that he can't publish it because it would end his career.

 

How is that different from a medieval priest fearing excommunication should he challenge the existence of God?

 

Invoking a YouTube clip of a 'top specialist' whispering about an unpublished study is not evidence – it’s folklore. Every crank movement has its sacred relics: your side has grainy videos of someone claiming they “can’t publish the truth”... Thats just pantomime and theatre, not data...

If the study were real, methodologically sound, and reproducible, any reputable journal would publish it – prestige journals especially love overturning established assumptions. That’s how careers are made, not ended. What actually ends careers is promoting junk science, which is why this 'study' only exists in unverifiable anecdotes and conspiracy-adjacent circles.

And.... your medieval priest analogy collapses immediately...
... science rewards people who overturn dogma with Nobel prizes, not excommunication.
If someone truly proved vaccinated children were systematically less healthy, they wouldn’t be banished – they’d be world-famous.

Comparing rejected low-quality research to suppressed divine revelation is precisely the problem.... you’re treating anecdote as scripture, and treating peer review as heresy. That’s not scepticism – it’s just a different flavour of faith feeding off delusion...  you'll be quoting 'nature has the answers' next !!! 

32 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

In aligning yourself with anti-vaccination 'lobbyists' - you've aligned yourself with delusional fools one who regurgitated and copy & pastes memes and anti-vaxx rhetoric from fringe websites

 

This is objectively false, as this rhetoric is now used at the highest levels of US politics.

Yes....  the U.S. government continues to monitor vaccine safety, and legitimate oversight is important. But using that fact to claim anti-vax fringe ideas have been validated is nonsense.

Investigations are there to catch real, rare problems - not to confirm sweeping conspiracies about mass harm, cancer, or hidden mortality. The best scientific data still show mRNA vaccines are vastly more beneficial than harmful for nearly everyone.

Trumpeting political interest as proof of fringe science is like saying because politicians sometimes debate climate issues, climate denial deserves equal weight. It doesn’t. Evidence does.

29 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

Quite a worry to who? The people who claim "the Covid vaccine saved millions of lives"? That makes sense.

 

Stiddle is entitled to his opinions and his takes are often quite interesting. But I appreciate that what he says is tantamount to saying God didn't exist back in the 14th century…

 

Having defected from the Vaccine religion, I don't shriek in horror every time someone blasphemes or contradicts one of its core tenets, I am able to look at things with a modicum of objectivity.

Quite a worry for basic intellect itself....

Your attempt to frame basic scientific consensus as a “religion” is dumb, in the same way a child calling broccoli “poison” is dumb. It tells me far more about your relationship with evidence than it does about vaccines.

You haven’t “defected” from anything – you’ve simply swapped one set of misunderstandings for another and wrapped it in pseudo-philosophical language to make it sound profound.

Claiming “objectivity” while dismissing data as dogma is about as convincing as a flat-earther calling himself a cartographer.... oh no - flat-earthers again !

If you genuinely believe that evidence-based medicine is a faith system and your personal suspicions are “blasphemy”, then objectivity isn’t the lens you’re looking through – it’s just the label you’ve slapped on your bias.

On 12/4/2025 at 9:49 AM, cynic1 said:

Fifthly, Go away please!  Your like Mr richard-smith who is also an advanced member. 

 

In summary what IQ does an advanced member require?

When I’m on the roads and spot another driver or biker doing something monumentally stupid, I can’t help but check if they also look as moronic as they drive. They often do !!

The same thing happens here. I read some idiot’s comment and instinctively wonder: do they also look as stupid as they appear... 

And then, once in a blue moon, we strike pure gold - someone who, on an anonymous forum, goes out of their way to look dumb by presenting a profile icon of someone who looks dumb - As if achieving stupidity idiocy was the goal all along...  

If that photo icon is you cynic1 then my apologies - but thanks for proving a point.

7 minutes ago, rumak said:

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

He didn't. But when he called her, I talked, so he now knows she's with a guy. She told him she's going to Si Saket. However, on the short call he told her "You're with a guy?". She said "Yes". That's what she told me.

 

so...i'm right again (not "ex" , just another sick puppy) .   if you could understand Thai you'd learn a lot more by listening in .

 

what she told you .....what she told him......  heaven turns to hell pretty quick when stricken by the infatuation bug .      

She's asked her Austrian Ex for a pay rise or she has to go Chiang Mai !!! (she went to Chiang Mai !)

She's asking Cameroni for 20,000 baht or she has to go work in a bar !!!

She'll be messaging other Simp's...  lining them up for exactly the same treatment.

Just now, Cameroni said:

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

instead of getting hung up on the reality that she's only interested in your money

 

Could be both of course. She likes me, but she also wants the money.

 

But yah, those first two days were a rush.

For 20,000 baht she likes you more than the Austrian Guy for 10,000 baht !!! 

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

She said her job in the household of a wealthy Thai in Phuket would pay her 15000.

 

So I asked her why is she asking 20000 of me? Shouldn't she ask 15000?

 

Her: "No, also can use motorcycle and car. I want 20,000".

 

What a turn off to talk about money in this way with a girl.

Well, at least you were able to comfortably delude yourself into completely ignoring what was clearly visible for everyone else reading this thread... 

.. Thats quite a skill - instead of getting hung up on the reality that she's only interested in your money, you fell under the spell and really believed she was 'into you' for a brief period and enjoyed yourself without the distraction of the 'monetary turn-off'... 

19 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Negotiations not going well. She's still insisting she can just go to Phuket to work then, if she doesn' t get 20000.

 

I told her male pride forbids me to pay double what an ugly 62 year old paid her.

 

We're at an impasse.

Pride was lost by about page 2 of this thread - you are well well beyond any semblance of pride....

Now you are simply negotiating the price of a hooker - thats all.

Have you calculated it out at price per jump yet ?...  If you have, then you already know exactly what you are paying for !!! 

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Negotiations not going well. She's still insisting she can just go to Phuket to work then, if she doesn' t get 20000.

 

I told her male pride forbids me to pay double what an ugly 62 year old paid her.

 

We're at an impasse.

On 12/4/2025 at 10:01 AM, richard_smith237 said:

On 12/4/2025 at 8:47 AM, Cameroni said:

I told her I love only her,

 

Its been less than a week...  he loves her already...   this is going to get funnier before it gets tragic.

Just now, rumak said:

 

I think you're afraid to go out (maybe to your friends place)  because you fear 

1.  she will pack up and leave when you're out

2.  go through your things

3.  you don't know what she'll do .

 

if not afraid....... just go out, man !   what a wuss

He's scared to leave her on her own...  

... he knows she'll be on Tinder and Thai Friendly in the blinking of an eye...

Poor Norma Jean is scared he'll get blown out again... 

39 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

She just asked me to come to bed though.

 

To "sleep".

 

You know what that means.

It means she's well aware of the only currency she has... 

28 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I guess it's a waste of time sending you a signed copy of my book next year then Sir.

That would depend upon how absorbent the pages are.....   

Just now, rattlesnake said:

10 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

must drive you nuts that you side with these fools.

 

I respect them and don't consider them to be fools.

You respect someone who doesn't believe in viruses exist and that antibiotics are unnecessary ???... 

.. thats quite a worry.

In aligning yourself with anti-vaccination 'lobbyists' - you've aligned yourself with delusional fools one who regurgitated and copy & pastes memes and anti-vaxx rhetoric from fringe websites and another who's quite possibly the most delusional fool to ever grace these pages... 

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

Show me where I actually use false equivalence (there are objective criteria) and I will consider it attentively.

You are more cautious - I referred to the frequent false equivalence used by Anti-vaxxers in general throughout these threads... 

... You are alert to such flawed statements - must drive you nuts that you side with these fools.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

I suggest you read my posts more carefully. If you want the truth that is.

Read your posts for the truth ??? - quality !!!...  and thats an unintentionally perfect summary of your problem....

Your contributions aren’t merely wrong; they’re a meticulous catalogue of intellectual collapse, the sort of incoherent drivel produced when confidence wildly outpaces competence. You parade your insight with the enthusiasm of someone who has never once suspected they might be stupid....

You wouldn’t recognise truth if it stripped you naked, tattooed its name across your forehead, and introduced itself slowly and phonetically.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

What you said below is a textbook false equivalence fallacy. If you ever catch me using one, be sure to flag it.

Anti-vaxxer talking about false equivalence !!!..   Brilliant !!! 

26 minutes ago, Bacon1 said:

 

Then there's this: Shocking!!

 

 

https://tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/5920_per-capita-consumption-of-margarine_correlates-with_the-divorce-rate-in-maine

Do you have the stats for the Covid-19 vaccines vs divorce rate ????

We might have a smoking gun - Covid-19 vaccines cause divorce... 

4 minutes ago, Keeps said:

Firstly, she sounds like a lying, annoying slag.

 

Secondly, she sounds like a lying, annoying slag.

Aww... come on - thats quite unfair... 

She's an honest person who's only had three previous sexual partners....

And... its not as if she sleeps around for fun - she's not a 'slag' - she's a sex worker who expects to be paid - there's a difference !!!

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The lengths you will go to – and the logical fallacies you will readily embrace – to justify your refusal to even consider any link to the vaccine in this story tells me we are not in rational territory.

 

There are thousands of testimonies of vaccine injuries under a plethora of videos such as the one below, but it's all false of course, all antivax lies from people who aren't smart enough to understand the Science™…

 

The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee held a powerful hearing titled 'Voices of the Vaccine-Injured' on July 15. Families and victims shared heartbreaking testimony about alleged mRNA COVID vaccine injuries. Witnesses included Dr. Robert Sullivan, an anesthesiologist; Brian Hooker, father of Steven Hooker; Polly Tommey, mother of Billy Tommey; Emily Tarsell, mother of Christina Tarsell; Krystle Cordingley, mother of Corbyn Cordingley; Serese Marotta, mother of Joseph Marotta; and Eric Stein, brother of Jessica Stein.

 

The irony of an anti-vaxxer or flat-earther lecturing on logical fallacies is cartoonish & not lost on me... . Watching someone who rejects basic science argue about reason is peak cognitive dissonance...

Its gone a little quiet now...  reckon Cameroni up to his neck in manipulation tactics and negotiation...

Next comment from him...

"15,000 baht is a steel for such a trustworthy, honourable, loyal respectful woman - she's even going to trim my toenails... "