frank83628

17 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

@frank83628 If Donald Trump was employing them at Mar a Lago, it would be upon him to verify their ages, would it not?

Notwithstanding, why was he employing even sixteen year olds at his beach spa? We know he has confessed to sneaking in on young girls at beauty pageants and we know both he and Epstein had an unhealthy interest in young girls. We know that Ghislane Maxwell recruited girls for them and we saw large transfer of many facilitated by her according to the Pandora Paper. Why? Even if the girls were sixteen...why?

 

@frank83628 Donald Trump is currently POTUS. It is not unusual for people to discuss current affairs. I have no interest in the running of their government, so I cannot discuss that, as i have little to no knowledge of that.

Others in the know can do that much better than myself.

That's why I am in THIS discussion, as I have some insight into it. 

You seem to be going off on your own little rant. 

Stop tagging me with your obsessive posts.

I have made my opinion perfectly clear 3 times now.

27 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

@frank83628  The mere fact that you use the term 'mentally deranged' in the face of the overwhelming evidence presented, speaks to your own state of mind.

You are most certainly in denial. Seek help.  I think it best that we leave it there.

It's not overwhelming evidence though is it, if it was it would have been used to jail Trump.

What it is is some unverified links on an unverifiable reddit account.

Your unhinged posts show your state of mind, you also sound remarkably like another member. 

9 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

How well does that excuse stand up in front of a judge ?

Not well at all. Goes both ways too, I have seen few female teachers in the news recently for getting involved with 15yr old pupils 

1 hour ago, SMIAI said:

Young girls were recruited to work in Trump and Epstein operations. Of that there is no doubt. Why? Even if 12,13 & 14 year old girls lied about being 16, they must have looked very young in the first place.

Why were they recruiting such young girls to work in a beach spa? I think anyone with a functioning brain, knows the answer to that question. This is not a hoax, as Trump is attempting to assert. 

The fallout between himself and Epstein is likely connected to this. Two alleged pimps connected by their interest in recruiting young girls.

 

Then, when the father of one of the girls went "ape-💩" according to a source at the time(alleged to be Trump himself posting under the name of John Barron(Baron Trump anyone), he claimed the girl was around 18. Clearly she was not 18, but he had to say that in order to deflect from the heat if she was actually 16.

I thought it was magas that were conspiracy theorists, you might want to leave reddit alone for  while.

Amusing you said 'functioning brain' when yours seem to be totally irrational.

If  girls lies about her age, is that a man's fault?

1 hour ago, SMIAI said:

@frank83628 You do not have to reply to them. If you are interested in truth, then don't allow yourself to be distracted by getting into petty arguments. You can only do one thing at a time. So if you want to know if it's true or not, then look at the available evidence and decide for yourself. Drop the bias and look at the data.

Stop trying to tell me about my biases when every single post you make is an anti Trump one.

I made my opinion perfectly clear and why i think that way.

23 minutes ago, jvs said:

This article is already older but it is by a news agency you adore so have a look.

The article is 9 months old so you can do the math.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/russia-casualties-ukraine-war

 

So US & UK sources say that Russia has lost 600k and Ukraine only 31k ??

C'mon, Are you seriously believing that

1 minute ago, SMIAI said:

@frank83628 Could it be it's the other way around? That this nonsense Russia Hoax is being used as a distraction?

Look at the evidence? The Epstein thing is clearly NOT a hoax, is it? Trump is 'gaslighting' you. But Trump claimed that it was.

Truth, @frank83628 Do not become distracted by the noise coming from either side. Is it true or is it not true and if it is true, then why is he claiming that it is a hoax and constantly changing his stories?

We can focus on other figures in another thread. But step by step. Here we are discussing Trump, Maxwell, Epstein. Are you able to do that?

Haha, get off your high horse. I am following the thread topic, stop trying to get comments removed.

16 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

@frank83628 Calm down. Stop ranting about the Dems, Obama, Biden....that is nothing to do with this thread.

I've pointed this out to you before. Your mind is totally bent out of shape.

I think you believe that I have no bias, simply because I have very little interest in politics at all. So I look at everything from as neutral a standpoint as I can. 

Of course Dems will be implicated in this too. Perhaps not as traffickers, but in other ways. So let's not lose sight of that. We are discussing a specific topic, let's not pollute with the same old ranting that you seem to do in every thread.

Keep to the subject, look at the evidence and decide on probability as to whether it is true or not.

They is waay too much evidence out there to dismiss it out of hand. You know this. Are you interested in truth or simply defending Trump no matter what he does or has done? 

You should read my comment properly. Both mentions of Obama have been direct replies to other members and not related to this topic.

10 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Frank what has obama,clinton, FBI/CIA Russian hoaxes got to do with Maxwell being transfered to another Prison ?? Why can't you post on the topic?

 I have only said I think Epstein is being used as a distraction. That was what i said in reply to another member, what I posted a

 above is a reply to you. Try reading the whole thread next time.

6 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I'm not realy Interested what happens in the US but now and then I will look at Post's that seam like Good meat on the bone threads like this one. Apart from the MAGA fans on here sticking there heads in the oven if Trump tells them, its the usual he said this he said that nonsense. Throw a few insults in keeps the thread going. What is striking Frank is you always seem to bring Obama or Biden into your post's not just in this thread but most of your posts in other threads.

 

Because I call out the hypocrisy of the media and members here. They totally ignore things done, said or lies from 1 side.

There are multiple threads where baseless accusations of trump committing treason have been posted, yet complete silence from everyone on a huge story about Obama, Clinton, fbi &CIA and the Russia hoax.

 Its coming to light it was all lies but those same people and outlets are silent on the matter.

6 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Two of the sworn affidavits were from girls who were 12 and 13 at the time they were abused.

 

Both faced death threats and both voluntarily withdrew their statements.

 

Out of interest.....how many sworn affidavits have been made accusing Obama of sexually abusing minors?......I'll give you hint.....it's a nice round 'number'

Where can I read this?

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

Where’s the list?”

— Frequently repeated by Patel in media appearances, referring to Epstein’s alleged client list.

•  “Americans deserve to see everything. No redactions.”

— Said during a podcast in early 2024, calling for full release of Epstein-related documents.

•  “The cover-up is worse than the crime.”

— Referring to the FBI allegedly withholding flight logs, victim statements, and surveillance tapes.

 

just a tiny example.....

Did you see the part where I said I didn't believe both Patel & Bongino? 

16 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

Look...let's call a spade a spade. I don't know why everyone is beating around the bush with regard to this.

There is a very high probability that the reason why Trump ACTUALLY fell out with Epstein, is that Epstein began to run a RIVAL operation, perhaps utilising even younger girls. Stealing his customers. Pimps ALWAYS test their girls beforehand. It's more than just urban legend that pimps often test their girls to make sure they can offer good service.

How else do you think they both became so very rich? Why else do you think that the decor of Mar a Lago was/is so extremely tacky?

Having a former pimp as a president is not a good look. Don't get distracted by just the claims of paedophilia whilst missing that so very obvious implication.

If you ever watched the Jeremy Kyle interview with Ghislane Maxwell, you will realise that she tried to deliver some coded messages with what she was saying. That she wished that she had just stuck with being a banker, around 1998(if I recall correctly).

Ghislane Maxwell was not ever a banker. 

Becoming clearer now? She was handling the money transactions for the pimps. She knows who paid what and how.

 

So the unpleasant assertions by @Cameroni are not without merit. The girls were likely recruited to service his customers. Epstein just undercut him with younger girls and a more exclusive service.

This is likely the real reason why they fell out.

Quite an imagination you have, early sunday drinking is it?

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

With men in there 50's and having been transported to a private ranch or island first????......and you think you're not being creepy?

Its you making things creepy, it's pretty clear he was talking about when he was in school, as was I.

Yes its creepy for an old man to have sex with 16yr old, but if that is the age of consent, then is not illegal.

Trafficking them is.

Saying 'underage girls' implies much younger.

I don't think anyone here can get on their moral high horse about sex with young girls, I am sure most members have paid for girls 30+yrs younger than them. Some of the threads here are proof of that.

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Oh give it a rest...everyone has seen the Youtube videos of the GOP demanding the release of the files.......then once into power...whoops...what files??

 

Patel, Bongino, Bondi, Vance......all spineless creeps.

You seem to be reading things in my comment that are not there..

Funny how YouTube clips are proof sometimes and others time not, depending what side of political argument you're on.

I have said before that I don't buy the story from bodgino and Patel, they both completely flipped on previous statements. 

2 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Talk about "a**e about face".......so the Dems guessed that in three months time Gabbard would go mental and accuse Obama of treason....so they (not Patel, Bongino, Bondi, Vance???) demanded the Epstein files to preempt the accusations of treason.....

 

That is not a stretch....that is a joint dislocating farce.

No Will, the Epstein thing was already announced by bondi, the media had already started on about Trump being part of it, but its now a convenient distraction too.

I am sure there were rumblings in DC that the Obama & the russia hoax story was coming out. I doubt anything can be kept totally secret there.

14 minutes ago, DrPhibes said:

So, please be nice in responding.  Most states in the US have 16yrs for age of consent.  I have not seen anything that said the girls were under 16yrs (maybe missed it as there is so much talk about this).  I can understand saying the girls were traffic'd for sex but not sure what is making it child sexual traffic'd.  Not being a creep, just wondering what the law says on this.  In my day as a 17yr old, by the time a girl was 14 - 16, she was going to make out point on a date and doing more than a peck on the cheek, but it was the early 70's and that was the culture then despite what the laws were.

The girls in my school were doing that in the 90s too. 

I have not seen any pictures of underage girls as it term itself implies, 15 and younger. I think the media happily blur the lines regarding this. 

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

Quite agree.....now!.....i just wonder...could there be a treasure trove of evidence that could be released, exonerating Trump...that would certainly help his case.

If there was anything to pin on Trump the Dems would have used it to stop him running. They tried everything else.

I think this is a distraction from Obama & Co treasonous Russia hoax. 

Not a single thread been started here about such a huge story, but 20 threads regarding Epstein 

39 minutes ago, annotator said:

I dislike Zelensky too. He has been trying to suppress anti-corruption enforcement in Ukraine to protect his supporters. But the Ukrainian Constitution forbids elections in time of war.

Prolonging the war keeps the money laundering going

37 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I think they need another romantic rendezvous in Helsinki to patch things up.  Remind the bottom who is the one on top.

 

Are you projecting yourself

7 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Frank, The article appears under the name, Volodymyr Zelenskyy who - as you know - is the President of Ukraine and one of the men who would have to agree to the terms of any peace deal.

 

So when the very same Volodymr Zelenskyy states that Boris Johnson did not talk him out of a peace deal for the simple reason that a peace deal did not exist, the rational thing to do - in the absence of evidence showing that Zelenskyy is lying - is to accept the statements as fact.

 

Whether the accounts of WMDs, Saddam's babies, Assad gassing his people, Anthrax, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Elvis being seen alive in a chip shop in Scunthorpe, etc, etc are true or not is completely irrelevant to this issue.

 

Frank, for the sake of your sanity stop believing that - by definition - every conspiracy theory is true, and that every article which appears in the MSM is false.

Zelenskeys term ended in April 24, he is no longer officially in office. Yet refuses to allow elections.

Remember how corrupt Ukraine was prior to 2022... no, guess not

16 hours ago, transam said:

You really should double-check your post before clicking.........🙄

 

Been a good day on here today, you have shown all, your true colours.....🤥

 

Thank you..

 

(PS. Your personal waffle does nothing, ol' chap, absolutely nothing, except make you look a big girl's blouse......🤭)

So, exactly as he said, you simply cannot back anything up that you say.

17 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Are you sure The EU has fuelled the war Frank ?

 

No, the US under Biden were, Trump initially stopped US funding, that was when he was trying to bring an end to the war, that when the EU countries and UK sabotaged it, 

war is big money for them all

15 hours ago, Taboo2 said:

Not sure why Putin is hell bent on destroying Russia's demography.  Their birthrate will continue to decline and in 75 years, you will be able to get a lot of real estate cheap in that country.  There will be no one living in large areas of Russia.  They already have a sad decline in men after Hitler did a number on them last century, plus the Stalin purges and other stupid civil wars after WW1.  So, the Great Putin decides to take one of the best fighting tribes in that part of the world and now over a million dead Russian kids and men are all he has to show.  Insane.

 

Now, his country will be EFF because Trump will put him in box that he cannot get out of.  Sanctions will cripple his energy money.  He is FUBAR.

Where do you get the figures of 1 million dead? Western media by any chance