canthai55

31 minutes ago, ArcticFox said:

This is what this really comes down to.  If you contract Covid what's your personal game-plan.

Those who only believe main-stream, establishment authority figures will go with the newest, most expensive treatments that may or may not save your life or prevent long-haul covid symptoms.

Those who distrust the profit motives of large pharmaceutical companies and who can comprehend the massive sums of money that facilitate legislative, media, and regulatory capture and who are open to reading observational studies and who have serious questions about the new practice of banning the voices of preeminent scientific voices who have views counter to the NIH, WHO, and CDC narratives - people like myself - will use the new protocols using inexpensive repurposed drugs that have shown promise in front-line clinical observational studies and anecdotal evidence in the treatment of covid.  These studies are primarily in poor countries where even oxygen is unavailable no less drugs that are completely beyond the affordability of average citizens, or ventilators, or first-world hospital conditions.  These studies happen out of innovation.  Necessity is the mother of invention.  These treatments that may or may not save your life or prevent long-haul covid symptoms.  However, the evidence is compelling enough to me personally to take my chances with repurposed drug protocols.

Life is a krap-shoot, xylophone.  You roll the die and take your chances.

Those who are pro-establishment and pro-authority - then best of luck with Remdesivir, other extremely expensive drug protocols, and ventilators.
Those who are pro-innovation and question both establishment and authority - best of luck with Ivermectin and other repurposed drug protocols. 

It comes down to personal choice although pro-authority proponents tend not to like personal choice.  The freedom of personal choice is anathema to those who embrace authoritarianism.  If you chose a course that is counter-establishment - you will be ridiculed and attacked.  That's just the nature of the world today.  New Normal.

For those who think like I do, you tune out the ridicule and steer your own course.  Ocean explorers of old were ridiculed by those who accepted the established wisdom and knew that the oceans ended in a waterfall at the ends of the world and beyond that "Thar be dragons."  Only fools failed to accept that Truth!

Believe what you need to believe.  I'll do the same.  I'll respect your decision.  And you?

Well said

37 minutes ago, tgw said:

there is progress, but it is very slow and based on foreign vaccine purchases and donations... as a work permit holder, I should have gotten the Thai Astra-Zeneca vaccine a long time ago and the whole country should have been vaccinated by now, but the sad reality is that I am still not eligible to even register for a vaccine because I'm under 50.

also, they are administering Sinovac. so no, sorry, it's a total fail.

Must have missed this part -

What if ... Oh why ... They should ...

Or this part -

Response from the Gov't of Canada re: vaccine for myself - Zero

Read his posts. All the same - just the topic differs

I ride one of my bikes most every day.

Swimming - was in Pai and swam 3 times a day. So not ALL pools closed.

Take all the Doom and Gloom with a large shovel full of salt.

Chances are I will die in a hiway wreck, but if I get Covid (If I did not have it already) chances are it will NOT kill me.

People got to stop jumping on bandwagons, believe what the media tells you, and LIVE your life.

10 hours ago, DrPhibes said:

Meanwhile, in Bhutan, who let outsiders come and set up their inoculation system and had joined Covax:

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/7/27/bhutan-fully-vaccinates-90-percent-of-adults-within-a-week

It all comes down to political will.

If the Gov't of any country wants to vaccinate its population, it purchases enuf doses and does it.

All Gov't are capable of this - just divert funds.

Military can assist - they getting paid anyway.

But it takes a willingness to do so, which most of the worlds leaders lack. All they are interested in are votes and getting re-elected. And those who do not need to worry about elections have their own agenda.

5 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

CM was dead and desperate before COVID-19. A city effectively under martial law and police military occupation. One of the most oppressive/ oppressed cities in Thailand. 

555 - I have lived here for 7 years now

None of what you posted above is even REMOTELY true

4 minutes ago, kynikoi said:

Remember that from your hospital bed or self imposed home-jail.

 

Get covid - go to hospital-jail.

You must be the President of the Doom and Gloom World Society.

Get Covid, good chance you will NOT die, as the over whelming percentage of people do not, but anyway ...

Gotta die of something

Most important thing is how you LIVE

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I thought that too until recently. Don't know how much longer I care to tolerate their nonsense. 

You will be doing nothing but exchanging the nonsense here for the nonsense elsewhere.

What can you do about politics here ? Nothing

What can you do about the politics there ? Nothing

Like it here - stay here.

Live YOUR life, and let the powers that be live theirs. Have as little to do with it as possible, and tolerate that which you can not escape.

At the end of the day, this is what you will have to do wherever you live.