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Yes the encampments are teach-ins for students who have seen the horrors on social media, but don't know the background since 1880. They can learn what "settler colonial project" means. Why do you reference Eretz Neheret, the ultra Orthodox IDF unit that the US might eventually sanction for war crimes?
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I just saw Peter Eliasberg, Chief Counsel of the ACLU (Southern CA), on the BBC concerning the circumstances around the university decision to shut down the UCLA protest. He remarked that police were present and did nothing when a group of, in his words, thugs violently attacked the protest site. He said that the university could not use that violence as a pretext to declare the protest unlawful, because there is a legal concept called heckler's veto. "A heckler's veto is a situation in which a party who disagrees with a speaker's message is able to unilaterally trigger events that result in the speaker being silenced." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler's_veto Interestingly, the ACLU of Michigan in a friend-of-the-court brief aided a successful appeal of the case of a group of evangelicals who staged an obnoxious march in Dearborn during the 2012 Arab International Festival and whom the police ordered to cease and desist due to their "incitement". https://www.aclumich.org/en/cases/hecklers-veto
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House Republicans Probe University Funding Amid Israel-Hamas Protests
placnx replied to Social Media's topic in World News
For some years many have been saying that the two-state solution is dead. Certainly the Oslo agreement has been so abused by Israeli that it is dead. It is also clear that Israelis will not voluntarily change their ways, so a one-state solution cannot happen before the Greater Israel plan is achieved, namely the removal of masses of Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank and the indefinite continuation of Apartheid. Consequently, now there is a lot of talk again about the two-state solution, and this will be accepted by the Palestinians if it achieves the clearing of most of the 750,000 illiegal settlers from the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israelis will have to go through a radical change in mindset. Reputation is important, and Israeli is rapidly gaining pariah status in the eyes of the world. Israelis will need to control the extremist elements in their society to prevent sabotage of the peace, as happened with the mass murder in the Ibrahimi Mosque in 1995 and the assassination of Rabin. For the world, two-states is the only option beyond calamity. -
The pro-Palestine camp at UCLA didn't seem to have guns when they were violently assaulted by masked thugs, not student age. Governor Newsom complained that it took too long for the police to respond. Now the University is calling for protest to end because of violence, that caused by Zionist outsiders. Who needs protection? Maybe the Jewish students who are protesting against the Israeli government.
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Maybe the White House hopes that after the students (hopefully) go home for the summer that things will calm down, except for the Democratic Convention in, where else?, Chicago. Remember 1968? While planners may have a holding pen for demonstrators out of sight of the convention hall, the demonstrations will be all over social media expressing their disdain for Biden.
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This is in response to my comment: "The encampments are teach-ins so that those who are appalled by the Gaza War can learn the historical background, etc." Speaking of historical revisionism, the whole Zionist trope was "A land without people for a people without land." In fact, the people of Palestine were there for millennia. A significant point is that the British and French divided up this part of the Middle East, and that the British made promises to the Arabs on site and to Jews in the UK regarding the destiny of Palestine. During the 30s a certain Christian Zionist in the Palestine administration helped train Jewish militias that later did ethnic cleansing when the British left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orde_Wingate
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This you said in response to @pegman: " You can read numerous reports about Apartheid in Israel here: https://www.amnesty.org/en/search/apartheid in israel/ Attached is Amnesty's 277 page report (pdf) can be accessed at this link: https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/5141/2022/en/ Human Rights Watch also has a report: https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution
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Middle East Eye does not seem to be a blog. Here is the media bias / fact check evaluation: HIGH CREDIBILITY. Left-center bias. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/middle-east-eye/ People "calling for" annihilation is incitement, and is part of the genocide investigation at the ICJ. So in this case, it's not Netanyahu, Pres Herzog, Galland, Ben Gvir, or Smotrich. It's the deputy mayor of Jerusalem. It just shows that incitement is also occurring at lower levels of the bureaucracy. That can strengthen the case at the ICJ.
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The Republicans are in the thrall of (if not themselves) Christians Zionists who are less interested in human rights or the Ten Commandments than seeing that Israel totally occupies historic Palestine so that the Revelations prophesy can be realized and they can go to their Heaven while the rest, including Jews, burn. Look up CUFI in Google. It is true that Biden and others seem to think that Israel's interests are synonomous with US interests. Some day soon I hope that many Israelis will realize that Fortress Zion is not viable in the long run, and that they should follow the promise of their Declaration of Independence and have a constitution granting equal rights to all. Maybe then future US administrations can treat Israel like any other democratic nation. The US political system with a revolving door between pro-israel think tanks and staff positions in Congress and in the White House has led to policy capture. This explains notable internal protests in the Administration and resignations from State & Defense over the Administration's handling of the Gaza War.
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It's sad to hear you claim that this is a matter of Israel not being allowed to exist. That's quite a polar view. JVP has been advocating the one state solution with equal rights for all. That means the end of apartheid. The Israel Declaration of Independence said: "WE DECLARE that, with effect from the moment of the termination of the Mandate being tonight, the eve of Sabbath, the 6th Iyar, 5708 (15th May, 1948), until the establishment of the elected, regular authorities of the State in accordance with the Constitution which shall be adopted by the Elected Constituent Assembly not later than the 1st October 1948, the People's Council shall act as a Provisional Council of State, and its executive organ, the People's Administration, shall be the Provisional Government of the Jewish State, to be called "Israel". THE STATE OF ISRAEL will be open for Jewish immigration and for the Ingathering of the Exiles; it will foster the development of the country for the benefit of all its inhabitants; it will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel; it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race or sex; it will guarantee freedom of religion, conscience, language, education and culture; it will safeguard the Holy Places of all religions; and it will be faithful to the principles of the Charter of the United Nations."