oncearugge

Hi, i have not applied for the 7 day extension.

The immigration officer did not mention about applying for it at all.

Thanks

Check back with immigration and confirm exactly what they were advising.

1. Were they saying they would extend your stay "overlooking" up to 7 days overstay (Which you would have pay 500Bht/day)

Or

2. Were they suggesting you apply for the 7 day extension during which they would be willing to extend your stay obtained from the "B" visa.

*bumping*

I am in a similar situation trying to change my TR visa (15 days remaining) into a Non-immigrant B at immigration. I have a Dutch degree (in English including the curriculum so no translation needed) and they say they want it stamped by the Dutch embassy which supposedly is a service which they don't offer. The 2nd option is to apply abroad for a non-immigrant B however they wont give my company the letter of approval from the labour department while I am still staying in Thailand which is complete nonsense. This 2nd option means I need to stay outside of the country for around 10 days while I wait for the letter and get it mailed to me. Does anyone know a better solution ?

Ask the Embassy if they will allow you to swear an affidavit confirming the degrees genuineness.

OK, sorry, just reread this, what if I am volunteering as a teacher?

If that is the case you would likely need a Thai Police clearance and , possibly, a criminal record check from your home country.

Wait till his real teeth appear.

Baby teeth don't matter.

"Baby" teeth DO matter!

https://www.uichildrens.org/importance-of-baby-teeth/

Not all "B" visas are dependent on a police check before being issued.

What is involved in the proposed volunteering.

A visa for "volunteering" can only be obtained from a Thai Embassy/Consulate with supporting paperwork from the organisation you will be volunteering for. Vientiane would be a good place to apply.

Extensions of stay are, again, dependent on supporting documentation and would only be for 90 days for a max of one year.

If working you will also require a work permit.

Have you already applied for and received the 7 day extension?

You will not need the financial proof to apply for a single entry non-o visa based upon marriage.

marriage?

no... i want a single non-o upon my child.

we are talking about but the visa and the extension on the basis of a child in Thailand

Are you the legal father of the child and do you have full parental custody?

I have been ... and changing the enforcement rules without giving fair warning for people to prepare is unreasonable in any language or country.

Sorry, but I do think it's important that future potential retirees to Thailand understand ... the residence SECURITY that you have living here on annual retirement extensions is limited. Literally -- to ONE year. Sure you may be able to live here for the rest of your life on such extensions, but there are no guarantees offered by the authorities here. Thailand's retirement system is easy compared to most countries offering such options, but the one thing Thailand has never offered retired expats is any path towards increase in residence security status over time. First year, 30th year, on the same TEMPORARY status. You're only as legal as your last extension and if you're heavily invested here ... that is not such a good feeling. If the bigwigs decide to shake some or many of us away ..

. it is easy to do so.

I agree that only having leave to stay of a year at a time doesn't provide much peace of mind/security, but at the same time they make it very easy for anyone over 50 or married to live here.

It would be great if the gave those of use on marriage/retirement extensions that have been here a long time longer extensions, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon. The biggest problem Thailand face is how to keep numbers down. I don't know what the increase in expats is over the last 5/10 years but I bet it's high, and IMO it'll keep growing unless criteria becomes stricter.

I have no access to actual numbers ----only the immigration service would know for sure, but I do know there are far more expats living in my patch now compared to when I first planted roots here.

With the imminent opening of an Australian Consulate General on Phuket I am considering changing from the 800,000 in the bank method, to having my income certified by the new office. This would free up funds for more efficient investment.

For people already using this method, Is there any downside?

Not really but be prepared to be able to support your income affidavit with evidence which supports the 'sworn' income

I think it will be a simple matter of getting my on line pension statements certified by the office?

Depending on exchange rates, the total is around 100,000 pm.

I didn't want to go this route previously because it involved travelling to Bangkok.

Much better to have original statements from the pension providers --- normally issued each year.

Neither the Embassy or Consulate will 'certify' online statements.

With the imminent opening of an Australian Consulate General on Phuket I am considering changing from the 800,000 in the bank method, to having my income certified by the new office. This would free up funds for more efficient investment.

For people already using this method, Is there any downside?

Not really but be prepared to be able to support your income affidavit with evidence which supports the 'sworn' income

I have been ... and changing the enforcement rules without giving fair warning for people to prepare is unreasonable in any language or country.

Sorry, but I do think it's important that future potential retirees to Thailand understand ... the residence SECURITY that you have living here on annual retirement extensions is limited. Sure you may be able to live here for the rest of your life on such extensions, but there are no guarantees offered by the authorities here. Thailand's retirement system is easy compared to most countries offering such options, but the one thing Thailand has never offered retired expats is any path towards increase in residence security status over time. First year, 30th year, on the same status. You're only as legal as your last extension and if you're heavily invested here ... that is not such a good feeling.

Sorry to learn about your experience.

I agree that security of stay is an issue but I do not believe 'we' will all be thrown out next week.

The only place I know of which will issue a multi-entry visa based on marriage is the Savannakhet Thai Consulate.

Same paperwork requirements as Vientiane and no need to show finances.

I'm pretty sure you can get a multiple entry non-imm O based on marriage from any consulate. Savannakhet is special because they'll give you one without any financial proof.

Please name them all for the benefit of other members

Was there on Monday doing the same but had the 800k seasoned with bank letter etc. No problem but other people in front were creating and waving bank books about but they were all refused visas. Looks like a 'move of the goal posts' has been ordered from above.

The thread is not about those with a "seasoned" 800K but those seeking an extension of stay (not a visa) with a combination of Income and Money in the bank totaling 800k which in the past has not required "seasoning"

That's true but the clues he provided about the stress he overheard at Jomtien immigration office retirement desk are of interest. That could also be related to something else reported here recently ... changes in the rules for address proof during extensions.

I guess many people are going to start to wonder -- are we being jerked around (again)?

I have lived in Thailand for a long time.

I am not 'we' and have never been "jerked around" .

Maybe I have been unlucky and will experience this "jerking" next year but I doubt that will happen

Well, that depends. I do not totally think I am entering illegally here. Mind you, my passport has Laos visa entry for the date I entered Laos. When someone entered a country without a visa of entry, that would be considered entering illegally. Not my case. The fact that I did not have my passport stamped was an honest mistake on my side, but that should not be determined as illegal as you state. I in fact crossed into Laos legally and I have my passport with the visa of entry to prove it. On the other hand, it is funny there is no mentioning of the responsibility of the immigration office to make sure no one entered Laos without going through them first. If this kind of monitoring is happening at other borders in the U.S. Illegal immigrants would have flooded the United States in no time. I brought this up because my view of the Laos people are so positive as I think my experience with Laos during my short stay was rather good, and to me Laos people are one of the most great people I have ever met if not the kindest and to see such a contrast at the immigration office is rather unfortunate.

Please. You did enter a country illegally as you bypassed immigration and did not, therefore , receive an entry stamp or permission to stay.

Using the USA as an "example" is laughable as the Country's southern states are indeed swamped with "illegals" !

Was there on Monday doing the same but had the 800k seasoned with bank letter etc. No problem but other people in front were creating and waving bank books about but they were all refused visas. Looks like a 'move of the goal posts' has been ordered from above.

The thread is not about those with a "seasoned" 800K but those seeking an extension of stay (not a visa) with a combination of Income and Money in the bank totaling 800k which in the past has not required "seasoning"

Hi oncearugge

Thanks for your quick reply

I would like to ask can I go apply a new non b visa at the thai embassy in Singapore or Peneng before the old non b visa expires will the embassy issue me a new non b visa if my old non b visa still have 3 week left or must I wait till the old non b visa expired before I go apply for a new non b visa

Thank you

Your "visa" has already "expired" as it has been used. You now stay in Thailand on basis of the "permission to stay" which the visa allowed.

Once you leave the country you do not have a "visa" or permission to stay.

As already said another visa can be obtained if you have all the required documentation.

In Singapore you can only get a single entry visa. Penang can issue a multi- entry visa.

ALFREDO

Did the two children accompany you to the Amphur and did the officials speak to the children ?

That is not a problem if - each office posts on their notice board that in 3 months time seasoning for extensions using the combo method will be required. To just change it unannounced is not fair to those who use it. Does not effect me thankfully.

OK But now 90 day online reporting is a reality I and many others only need to visit the immigration office once per year.

I am not going to make trips just to read a notice board.

I would prefer that National changes be announced in the National press and local changes in the local press. That coupled with the information dispersed via TV should ensure most people are kept up to date.

Good to know for the next go round. May just return to the states as it's fairly easy for a 1 year multiple entry in LA.

The only observation I would make is that returning to the States makes that visa very expensive!

I have never understood the lack of seasoning when using the combo method.

To exaggerate for the sake of emphasis - if I have income of 1 baht and a deposit of 799,999 baht that is an easy way for everyone to get round the seasoning requirement.

What, of course, is very wrong is to change the interpretation of the rules without notice. They should give at least 3 months to allow everyone to adjust.

I agree. It doesn't make sense which is why IMO the order was badly/wrongly written. IMO what does make sense is that seasoning is required unless the capital sum used is small which apparently is the policy at my local office.

There's no denying that the written police rule doesn't ask for seasoning, but often the intention of what's written and what's written don't match. I think they either forgot to re-specify seasoning or to refer back to the requirements of income and bank methods (as the immigration website does). It is also my opinion that this mistake/loophole was allowed to continue because most people using the combination were only using a small lump sums.

Even if I'm wrong and it was intended as written I bet that abuse has probably led to the change in policy that reports indicate. Your example is extreme but it does demonstrate why allowing seasoning doesn't make sense.

I often wonder if some of the "confusion" relating to this and other issues is associated with translating the original Thai documents into English.

My Thai "skills" do not extend to being able to read Thai "legal" documents so the above is pure speculation.

The only place I know of which will issue a multi-entry visa based on marriage is the Savannakhet Thai Consulate.

Same paperwork requirements as Vientiane and no need to show finances.

Thanks, if it is still swollen tomorrow I will take it to the Ram in Chiang Mai. I must admit, the shot he gave me tonight seems to be doing something, feel as sick as a dog, but the pain is getting less. I was just worried why he said it was serious but could not explain what the problem was. I asked about mumps etc. but he just smiled and said "Infection Serious" - 250 Baht!

Generally speaking it is best to stay away from "clinics" !

I am unable to advise about Drs./Hospitals in CM

Sorry.

Have just spoken to a friend who recently renewed his extension in Phuket using the "combo" method. There were no requirements for seasoning.

Sorry but what is a " personal life coach / development " and why do you need one.

You should arrange to consult a either a General Physician or an ENT specialist at a hospital.

Speculating about the cause/diagnosis here I would suggest is unhelpful.

If your condition has not improved by the morning seek an urgent second opinion.