AlexRich

18 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

It does seem that Boris is a shoe in for the job. But i have a question. If Boris is the self-serving, unprincipled man that he appears to be, why would he put himself up for the job now; given the stalemate there is in Parliament and with the EU not budging? Would a man with his ego let himself in for faffing around for 6 months, following a similar course to May, in all likelihood that nothing changes and he gets booted out as another failure PM? 

 

I suspect he (or more likely his advisers) have a dramatic change of plan in mind, otherwise I don't think he'd go for the top job right now. 

 

 

Come off it! Boris Johnson thinks he's the reincarnated Churchill, with a God given right to lead the nation ... he'd sell his sister into prostitution to get his hands on that job. 

The problem is that he has no plan, no idea what to do once he gets the job. He's a guy who has been "winging it" all his life ... and he's too old to change.

7 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

Any wanting to learn about India or Russia could gain a lot of information from this British fellow who's posted  scores of his travel videos on YouTube.

 

He calls his channel Bald and bankrupt.      He speaks Russian fluently and converses well in Hindi.

 

Very entertaining.

 

 

 

Unfortunately he keeps bad company ... the Nazi loving Harald seen behind him.

26 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

"Morality" and "what's best for the people of the UK" are one and the same. Remainers see themselves as being the "good guys", caring about human rights and asylum seekers, wanting what's best.

 

When some of the "good guys" are foul-mouthed and aggressive, nobody seriously believes that they are the "good guys" any more.

 

You make some interesting points about the funding of Brexit. However, the Remain camp has skeletons in its cupboard too. The truth encompasses both sides of the argument.

 

 

No, it isn't. There are plenty remainers who would prefer to set their own rules on who comes into the country ... but accept freedom of movement ... because being in the EU gives greater benefits. Being in the EU is a trade-off ... if you are for it you believe the things you get are worth more than the things you give up. If you are against it's the opposite. It's not good or bad, it is not a moral argument. 

What hasn't dawned on Brexiteers is that a trade deal with the US will involve similar trade offs, as indeed does operating on WTO rules. If you set your tariffs at zero, you do so for every country.

24 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

 

 

Please supply links to back up what you say re electoral commission..aaron banks..soviet intelligence

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I already have ... do keep up. 

26 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Not you - so which Remainer is it?
Do you hate Farage and Tommy Robinsion as much, or more, than the old people you prefer dead so they couldn't vote Leave again? I thinks that's nastier - don't you?

I hate Farage and Tommy Islam ... it’s hard to hate people who are essentially gullible ... that Brexiteers are disproportionally in the older age range and are a dying breed is merely a statement of fact. It’s more pity, than hate.

5 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Short memory time??
A certain alex salmond was your hero until quite recently..now he's soon being tried for 2 attempted rapes. 7 attempted sexual asssults etc etc.
Does stones/glasshouses ring a bell??

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Funny that, because I’ve never voted SNP in my life, nor did I vote for Scottish independence.

But don’t let those facts get in the way of a good post Teddy, just keep making things up ... you’re good at that.

3 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

You are framing this as some sort of childish contest between Remain and Leave supporters. Is the language used by Leave supporters an excuse in your eyes for Remain supporters to be as aggressive and insulting as they like?

 

There are moderators on here who monitor the comments, and anyone deemed "out of order" gets deleted, and sometimes censured. As it should be. The fact you don't like the cut and thrust of this debate is fine by me (your opinion), but don't try to "frame it" like people who support remain are not entitled to respond in kind, if they wish. That is our right. 

However, you cannot claim to be a neutral observer and only observe Remain supporters comments ... that's hardly neutral. It's a bit like witnessing a man being attacked by two others and successfully defending himself. When the Police arrive you tell them that this guy beat the hell out of these two gentlemen ... but fail to mention that their behaviour led to it.

17 hours ago, nkg said:

 

I don't support either "team", but it is interesting to see the kind of language being used by Remain supporters on these threads. Insults, wild accusations and conspiracies. Basically the intellectual equivalent of people snarling and spitting at anybody who disagrees with their opinion.

 

The Remain team are supposed to be made up of the people who are morally right. People who welcome immigrants and free trade, people who celebrate multi-culturalism.

 

 

Here it is ... you didn't say "some" remain supporters ... you implied all. And no reference to the opposite side who are a great deal worse.

8 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

Oh really? I don't recall making any "false point". The idea that my "point" was "proved to be false" is baffling. You haven't even specified which of my points you were talking about.

 

As far as I am concerned, the main thrust of what I was saying was that I was disappointed with the aggressive nature of the discussion coming from some of the Remain supporters on this thread. I am neither a Remain nor a Leave supporter, and have never posted on a Brexit thread until yesterday.

 

Ironically, I see a Remain supporter calling a Leave supporter "a resident hypocrite on this thread, with no values" on this thread. These kind of aggressive personal attacks prove my point for me.

You stated that you were a neutral observer, providing an objective opinion. And your opinion was that insults, personal attacks and conspiracies were coming from those that support the Remain cause. That is patently false. And I gave you several examples of the sort of language used on here by those who take the opposite view. Language that you appeared to have missed? My point was valid ... you are either not as neutral as you state or you are woeful in your judgement of these threads. 

1 hour ago, aright said:

Yes, I agree well done. The good thing, perhaps a bad thing, about being a hypocrite is you get to keep your values. 

I think you’re the resident hypocrite on this thread, with no values to speak of.

20 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

I didn't mention the Leave supporters at all. Are you implying that these threads are some sort of childish competition between Leave and Remain?

 

Taken in isolation, I find the posts from some Remain supporters very disappointing. The first page of this thread has "Odious little turd" and "poundshop Enoch Powell". On this page we have "lying old sod". I don't see the justification for this kind of language, unless it is to provoke a reaction from a Leave supporter.

 

 

No ... they are serious opinions. Nigel Farage is an odious conman ... it's people just saying it as they see it.

What you need to do is get back on that "12 Step" programme ... it's done you a great service for 15 years, don't abandon it now!

1 minute ago, nkg said:

 

Have a look at my post history. This is the only occasion I've ever posted about Brexit. So, hardly disingenuous.

 

Yes, I would expect that kind of language from the far right. Remainers are supposed to hold themselves to a higher standard.

 

"insults, wild accusations, and conspiracies"

What you've essentially said is that having read these threads it's the Remain supporters that are engaged in the above ... you being an objective and neutral observer. My point is a simple one, you are either not a very skilled observer or you are not as objective and neutral as you make yourself out to be. You are not holding yourself to the same high standard that you expect of others.

RIP. Bullying is rife in these institutions, as are cover ups. To be fair, not just in Thailand.

On 5/14/2019 at 2:13 AM, DoctorG said:

This has really backfired on her. The religious Right are applauding the slow-down of hook-ups therefore fewer abortions, while the Left are condemning her for perpetuating the view that women do not enjoy sex. She is getting hammered from both sides, which is pretty hard to achieve.

I'd like to hammer her on both sides.

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/party-and-election-finance-to-keep/arron-banks,-better-for-the-country-and-others-referred-to-the-national-crime-agency-for-multiple-suspected-offences

Here's the link. 

1 hour ago, nkg said:

 

I don't support either "team", but it is interesting to see the kind of language being used by Remain supporters on these threads. Insults, wild accusations and conspiracies. Basically the intellectual equivalent of people snarling and spitting at anybody who disagrees with their opinion.

 

The Remain team are supposed to be made up of the people who are morally right. People who welcome immigrants and free trade, people who celebrate multi-culturalism.

 

 

You've been reading these Brexit related threads and you can say the above? You need to go over them again ... you'll find the references to "elites", "globalists", "EU Army", "Soros", "run by the Germans", "snowflakes", "remoaners", "traitors", "unpatriotic" ... I could go on. 

You are an unbiased observer with no dog in the fight? You remind me of the posts that I see on You Tube which start "I voted Remain but ...". A pretty disingenuous post.

Incidentally, the UK's electorate commission believe that Bank's has been engaged with the Russian state ... so it's a little bit more than a conspiracy theory. 

35 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

 

 

Sounds to me like a good-humoured old bloke making a point in his own way. Would your reaction to the story have been the same if he was wearing a Liberal Democrat rosette?

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/23/army-veteran-attacked-milkshake-outside-polling-station-wearing/

 

 

 

 

Straight out of the Brexit Party propaganda machine ... old bloke, ex forces ... lying old sod ... but at least he'll go home with Aaron Bank's roubles stuffed in his back pocket. 

On 3/5/2019 at 3:39 AM, terak said:

used Alan sometime ago - great bloke, easy to deal with.

Thank you ... Alan.