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1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:
And as I said, my post is about trump's failure to respond in a manner that heals.
I just take that as a given. Hardly worth talking about anymore.
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8 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:
Yep, it's very clear what you want to believe is the cause of the protests.
Well, not JUST that. Locking everyone up for a few months without giving them subsistence is the real cause, George Floyd was the trigger but the ones Imentioned are the ones taking advantage of the current moment. Not to mention, half these kids are $50k in debt for worthless degrees. I'd be mad too.
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3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:
The protests are one thing [and I don't agree with your reasoning for them],
Yes, I know, that's why I cleared it up.
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48 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:The divisive nature of trump becomes clearer with every speech he makes.
He is not trying to unite the nation, his reference to 'our' history/monuments/statues is intended to tell his followers 'it's us against them', the history of America is the history of all its citizens, no matter their ethnicity. He may believe what the protestors are doing is wrong, but as president surely it is his role to try and listen and act on their concerns, sooth their anger rather use it to shore up his base support and create a siege mentality in their minds.
Change is coming and that does scare many people, that's why trump will most likely lose the November election. People need a leader who can guide them all not one who chooses to divide them for his own political wants.
trump relied on a lot of swing voters who wanted to give him a chance to see if a change was for the better. It wasn't, his entire presidency has been a debacle, and the polls continue to show those undecided voters who voted him in in 2016 will vote him out in 2020.
The clock is ticking.
None of this has anything to do with Trump. This stems from a postmodern Maoist style of intersectionalism and Critical Race Theory that has been festering on American campuses for a decade or more now.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:
Some statues should go but reasonable lines need to be drawn.
I think all statues glorifying pro slavery confederate generals need to go. They were built long after the Civil War to prop up white supremacism.
But this is getting ridiculous now. George Washington stays. It's doubtful that the USA as an admittedly flawed democracy would even exist without him. Jefferson stays. Christopher Columbus stays. What are they going to do? Change the name of the District of Columbia?
I do understand the issues with this Teddy Roosevelt statue but I think it belongs on the side of the line of statues that can stay.
People should focus on the confederate civil war stuff. Otherwise that movement will be diluted and invite a backlash.
I hope someone doesn't screw up and tear down a statue of George Washington Carver by mistake.
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13 hours ago, connda said:
I lived most of my life in the Pacific Northwest and Seattle was a pretty wonderful place 40 to 50 years ago. I've many fond memories of the area. However, it's devolved into a cesspool over the years. The people who live there have raised and nurtured the monster that grows in their midst. And yet, most locals support the anarchy and mayhem. I'm sure when the 'woke' crowds seeking to level the economic playing field start entering the neighbourhoods and forcing homeowners to communally share their million dollar homes - well - hey, maybe they'll still support the New Normal that sorta looks like a scene out of Doctor Zhivago after the Bolshevik Revolution as their new house mates take over their homes. All for the cause, right? Peace, Love, central control, defund the police, eat the rich?
Yeah, it was a beautiful place at one time. I'm glad I had the opportunity to live there back in the day. I'll keep the memories. No plans to return.Ironically, it was a much more beautiful place before large segments of the population became upwardly mobile. Same goes for SF. The yuppies destroyed both cities.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:
Yes 45 was humiliated in Tulsa. Great news! Oklahoma is as red a state as there is yet he couldn't fill it even there. Not even close. No overflow venue at all. Didn't he say they had requests for a million tickets? Lying much?
Now of course 45 being 45 he has to blame his failures on someone else.
So he blames it on media reporting the facts of a spike in infections in OK.
And of course the protesters, mostly black, that he explicitly and offensively called thugs for allegedly blocking rally entrances.
But alas another lie as objective reports say only one entrance was attempted to be blocked and that one for a very short time until it was quickly and easily cleared by police.
Praise to the more intelligent of the 45 fans that stayed away from this super spreader rally. The vast majority of the 45 fans following their dear leader predictably wore no masks.
Apparently the GenZ crowd is a little more with it than the Millenials. They ran an orchestrated online campaign to reserve seats well beyond the venue's capacity. Pretty cool.
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1 hour ago, 2 is 1 said:Was killed 19 year old black? If white never mind we not go to streets!
I believe he was. Lots of video of EMT's on scene waiting for cops to seure area. Also video of cops being blocked and harassed. Seatlle's EMT's among the best in the country. They likely could have saved that boy's life. It's a GD shame.
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3 minutes ago, bendejo said:The Tulsa MENSA has it's monthly meeting the third Saturday of every month, but I don't think any one attending the rally will be concerned about a scheduling conflict.
If Trump had any interest in science he'd hold another rally next week in an outdoor stadium, so we can compare mortality rates. The NFL and it's fans would sure appreciate it.
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Beijing looks to be breaking out in a huge way right now, with information being they are now dealing with the "Italian strain"of the CV.
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Most of the police in Atlanta's police districts are not responding to calls tonight. Many have called in sick for the overnight shift. I expect the "Blue Flu" phenomena to expand across the country. What with several superspreader events coming up in the US and hostiities in Asia, should be some vibrant news cycles.
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1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said:
Unfortunately there is nothing to laugh about. The option exists and is scary.
Not really.
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The NYT takes another step towards irrelevancy as Woke staff puge Liberal staff:
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/5/21280425/new-york-times-tom-cotton-send-troops-staff-revolt
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7 hours ago, sirineou said:
Excellent progress with Covid 19
In a couple of days, We went from "Don't go out or we all are going to die" to "let's all go out and riot to save lives"
If there was ever any proof needed that our institutions are run by incompetent careerists, there it is.
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5 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:
These protests are morphing into anti establishment and anti government demos under the BLM/Floyd guise. Must be 50k around US embassy today and marching to Big Ben next. They look like a typical festival crowd today, well there is nothing else to do all summer.
Pandering to racial injustice doesn't cost anything, so of course that will be the corporate media's narrative and people will buy in, on one side or the other. Affecting a change in wealth inequality may require stronger measures than what we've seen thusfar.
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20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:Finally facing the nation's original sin openly and head on.
I make no claims to be a policy wonk so you're barking up the wrong tree.
A first step is electing officials that get that that there need to be big changes.
This will be a generational process. You can't reverse centuries of injustice instantly.
I think It is right to label slavery as America's original sin, but I think it's wrong to suggest that Americans were the only guilty party.
I also think it is wrong for all white people to be saddled with the original sin of white privilege. A baby born today should not have to carry that burden.
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3 minutes ago, Phuketshrew said:
So if the 75 year old white guy that was pushed over by police in Buffalo dies is everyone going to take to the streets all over the world for "White Lives Matter" ?
An interesting phenomenon I've observed is that many white people don't seem to care when other people die, regardless of skin color.
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11 minutes ago, Denim said:
Meanwhile , closer to home :
NETIZENS SEE HYPOCRISY IN CELEBS’ CALL OF ‘BLACK LIVES MATTER’
BANGKOK — Celebrities who join the growing online support for anti-racism protests in the U.S. came under fire Thursday for their perceived silence over injustice at home.
From urging the use of live ammunition on their rival protesters to their consistent reticence in military killings of civilians, netizens said the “woke” celebs are guilty of hypocrisy because they never practiced the same advocacy for justice and human rights in their own country.
“<deleted>, when it comes to injustice in your own country, you’re completely silent. When it comes to injustice in a foreign country, you’re all pretentiously posting,” political commentator John Winyu wrote in a tweet reshared more than 61,000 times since Wednesday.
Full article :
Yeah, that's all going to be quietly backpedaled when the BLM stance on Israeli genocide comes to their attention.
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5 minutes ago, bodga said:It kills more Blacks than Whites too even the virus is racist now
Later, when better statistics are available, I think it will show it kills more people who are improverished than those who are not. Black people are overrepresented in the impoverished population. Lack of healthcare resources and poordiet are a symptom of being poor, not just Black.
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I'm gratified to see a closer examination of police practices and hopefully some legislation will arise curbing the worst of these practices and strong citizen oversight will become widespread. That said, while the horrible George Floyd murder I think is the straw that broke the camel's back, I don't think that's where the passion for these protests is coming from. I think it's really about living a life constantly on the margins in America.
Being poor in America is oppressive. Any unexpected problem, even a minor one can send your life spiraling down. Broken taillight? Don't have $30 to fix it, and you're in the system and can't register your car. Can't afford insurance? You're in the system with a huge fine and if you can't pay that, maybe a bench warrant. Poverty becomes criminalized. Can't pay child support? You're in the system and the totality of your wages may be garnished. Don't ever get sick. Don't see a doctor as that may lead to bankruptcy.
Say you're getting $500 worth of benefits and you report (it's mandatory) that you picked up 2 days work somewhere. Well, you lose your benefits. The bureauocracy is a nightmare you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.
Black folks were put out of work at double the rate of whites during the CV-19 outbreak. You can be sure bills, rent, etc. were piling up for many. George Floyds death set off the perfect storm to release all that pent up anguish. Next week people who hadn't may be a little more respectful of black live mattering but it's back to normal on the economic oppression brought on by significant economic inequality in America.
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Just now, pegman said:
Yeah, another 4 years of Trump blunders there might not be a Republican Party.
True, or a Democrat Party either. I'm game for something new and a little bit more human centered.
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19 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:
Listen America (Democrats)......All you had to do was find one guy under 70 who didn't propose radical ideas, someone center that both sides could agree on.
When Trump gets another 4 yrs in the White House, Dems will only have themselves to blame. Therapy is expensive, better start saving up.
You're assuming that the Democrats don't want Trump to win?
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7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:"It was an honor to compete alongside one of the most talented groups of candidates the Democratic party has ever fielded — and I am proud to say that we are going into this general election a united party," Biden said on Friday.
Hahaha. This proves he is willing to say anything. Those debates were painful to watch.
Compete? This was the most undemocratic process I've ever witnessed in America. Here are the winners:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/midterms-one-party-controls-wealthiest-184200649.html
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16 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:
Yes. Likely either disenfranchised young men, hired hands of the right, or just idiots with parents who tried too hard to be their "friends". Regardless once again Trump has failed dismally. Once again he was given a golden opportunity. And instead all this coward can do is threaten young Americans with vicious dogs, all the might of the national guard and the military and other nonsensical and potentially illegal actions. All this from the deferment king, who would wet his pants if he were ever in the line of fire.
I don't think they're "of the right". I think those guys on the right like to shoot people and run them over with their cars. The one's I have seen throw things through windows and spray paint things. More destruction oriented it seems.
Biden attacks Trump health policy as 'cruel' in election battleground state
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Would that be Joe "if a Medicare For All policy lands on my desk I will veto it" Biden?