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On 5/27/2020 at 12:43 AM, pegman said:

Keep him in the basement and let Trump defeat himself. He has been doing a terrific job of it lately. 

Then what? Back to the policies that had people thinking taking a chance on someone like Trump might be a good idea? The problem is, most folks don't believe their are actors in the wings worse than Trump, but continue down the neoliberal path and it will lead to their doors.

1 minute ago, Isaan sailor said:

Imagine the uproar, had President said that...

Or worse, said to a White person, that they "ain't White" if they're not voting for him.

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

This is simply no big deal. 

45 does much worse several times a day. 

Biden only has to be not 45.

45 in his campaign often said to his black people what do you have to lose by trying him out. 

We know the answer now.

Their lives.

Any black person that would even consider voting for 45 now may well be black but that's about all the positives you can say about them. 

I don't think too many Black folks will vote for Trump, though there will be some. The damage Biden made for himself is that he gave more than he can afford to lose a reason to stay home on election day.  He's suppressing his own voting bloc.

Seen on Twitter:  "every three weeks Biden exits the basement, tells people not to vote for him, and disappears again".

4 hours ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said:

What you read? Or what the stooges on FOX have been broadcasting?

I don't watch FOX news.  I like to read.

https://www.epsilontheory.com/first-the-people/

https://www.epsilontheory.com/a-truth-thats-told-with-bad-intent/

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Your occasional self assertion of being a Democrat never fails to amuse me.

 

 

I only point it out as an historical reference. I'm am a 1980's Democrat. You and others here are 2020 Democrats. In other words you're 2001 Republicans. It's all relative. What isn't is the move to the right by all of you; Democrats and Republicans alike. Fortunately for you you have people further to the right than youself to mock.

5 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:

Where have you read this? Would be interesting to read if there are qulified facts to back it up. Interesting point that WHO do not recommend hydroxychloroquine and even on Fox News interview with

Dr. Bob Lahita, chairman of medicine at St. Joseph University Hospital, who cautioned people not to take hydroxychloroquine.

 

If you search my recent posts you will find a video presentation (2) of the study. You have to wade through a few minutes of the videos first.

12 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

its one of the 20 parameters to determine if someone is a psychopath or not.

 

Trump passes with flying colours.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/hare-psychopath-checklist-test-sociopath-2016-11?r=US&IR=T#4-are-you-a-pathological-liar-4

If you've been around long enough you learn to appreciate a bad liar. You can dismiss everything they say out of hand. What I really hate is a good liar. Obama was a good liar because we all wanted to believe his lofty rhetoric signifying nothing. You can't keep that up for 8 years without people discovering that you're full of <deleted>. Enter Trump. Thanks Obama!

30 minutes ago, Phil McCaverty said:

Ok to boast about "grabbing pussies" though, or being accused by 9 women of sexual assault.

 

If only Governor Cuomo would enter the race. There's still time.

Cuomo is what we used to call a Republican.More charming to be sure, but he is not the man for this moment, having failed NY so badly. Although he managed to come out looking pretty good in the press I must say. I guess they didn't focus on the death tolls.

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No, I asked for links to clinical studies proving hcq works as a prophylaxis.
 

I have seen no video in this thread and in any case would want more than YouTube as a source of data. 
 

As I said, I’ll go with the medical experts who have done their research. 

The YouTube I gave you is the medical study. All the pages of the study are in the Youtube for you to read. Like a PDF, you know? Jesus!

4 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Because I will enthusiastically support anyone or anything that runs against the travesty that is currently making a mockery of the Presidency and of democracy.

I read a Twitter thing the other day related to Biden's sexual assault of his office worker. The Tweet said "I'd let Biden molest my own child and I'd still vote for him over that "something"" , I forget.  That is further down the rabbit hole than I'd be willing to go.

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

The text of the bill is 1815 pages. https://www.npr.org/2020/05/12/854707010/read-the-house-bill-calling-for-3-trillion-in-coronavirus-relief  It is clearly a result of the sausage factory that creates legislation.  It's bound to have some feces blended in with the meat. 

 

Without knowing who slipped in the objectionable parts and why I can't comment further.  However I'm not willing to sit on the sidelines during the upcoming election because neither party and no candidate is perfect.

It's not about the sausage factory it is about appeasing donors. Almost every aspect of every Bill so far is about appeasing donors. First their corporations then their tax dodge charities, then their campaign contribution dark money corps, then their lobbyists. It's all different parts of the same group. It's all corporate bailouts!

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Yes, a YouTube video. 

With the study you asked for in it.

3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

What does that even mean? You're not taking hydroxychloroquine, are you?

I mean there's the lesser of two evils, bad and worse, <deleted> and syphiilis. And then there's Biden. Why would anyone enthusiastically support that choice when the process that led to his nomination wasn't even close to democratic? We Democrats had atleast a dozen better choices than Biden. So how did he become inevitable?

16 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I know about the dangers. I lived in Ghana in a very rural setting and was given a wealth of information on the dangers of the malaria drugs including HCQ that we were given for use. 
 

I am asking about clinical research proving it acts a prophylaxis. 

Which I provided, once.

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Really, because I’m watching the news right now and every doctor and medical expert on it is saying there is no proof it acts as a prophylaxis and has serious potential side effects. 
 

I’m thinking they have done their research eh. 

It has EXTREMELY serious side effects if introduced to a patient with comorbidities or is in a more advanced stage of CV 19.

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If in fact the Dems have a surprise candidate waiting in the wings I'd expect they'll try and get him to resign rather than assassinate him at convention. That would just alienate all the voters that chose him.

The thing is, nobody really wants him. Ask these people. Do they really want Joe Biden? I get it, that they don't want Trump. But do they really want Joe Biden? I don't think so.

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

It’s based on the research I’ve done, which is limited I’ll admit.
 

Shame really because I, like all of us I imagine, want there to be an effective prophylaxis. 

You don't have to follow the link I gave, but I would say, as opposed to your limited research, mine has been extensive.

Just now, Silurian said:

 

Donald should recommend that his entire staff take hydroxychloroquine so that masks are no longer required at the White House. Maybe all the Republican Senators can follow along to keep the Senate in session so they can continue installing the "right" federal judges. Then it can continue that all of Donald's followers are recommended to take hydroxychloroquine as well to ensure they will survive the COVID-19 Democratic Hoax.

 

If taking hydroxychloroquine would allow for surviving the Democrat's hoax, even I might take it. Don't you people ever grok you keep getting pushed deeper into the cornerof bad and worse and more worse and worse still?

5 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I’ll keep to the view I’ve gained from reading the reports on there is no proof it acts as a prophylaxis. 

That is your prerogative.

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's entirely down to the Dems then. Unless they have cloned JFK seems they're stuck with Biden. So many have endorsed him including Obama it would be a major embarrassment if they now said they made a mistake.

There is precedent for his removal. Hubert Humphrey became the 1968 Democratic candidate without ever winning a primary. Brokered convention.  Joe Biden became the Democrat nominee without ever leaving his basement! Democrats need a brokered convention. It's a little bit rare now, but not that unusual.

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I’d prefer a link to clinical studies rather than YouTube videos.
 

The ones I am finding are saying there is no proof it acts as a prophylaxis but that it might. 

The clinical studies are in the Youtube video. I'm not going to click the link for you so don't come back and complain that I should have.

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Anything that features Tucker Carlson has a credibility problem with me.

 

Your source seems primarily concerned with the fact that the bill did not specifically exclude some businesses from government assistance.  If the bill had gone into that level of detail it would have never gotten to vote.  Also, I don't know how repealing a tax deduction benefits the wealthy.  Tax deductions usually benefit the wealthy.

Don't be obtuse. It is not about specifically excluding, it is about specifically INCLUDING. These organizations were not includedi in prior PPP bailouts. Nor were 501c3's (legitimate not for profit organizations). 501c4's and 501 c6's got snuck in with the legitimate (mostly charities) organizations. Don't be a political hack. Don't let me lose respect for you. Bad is bad, wherever it comes from.

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30296-6/fulltext
 

The lancet would disagree that it has proven effective as a prophylaxis for covid-19 in this report. Full of ‘mays’ and ‘mights’. 
 

 

Do you have a more up to date clinical study on its effectiveness as a prophylaxis?

I posted a video citing the study. You can search my history.

5 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

I hear that VP Pence has now memorized the oath of office for POTUS. 

That has set off a stream of thoughts for me. What if Trump died, resigned, got thrown out of office? What if Pence became president. What if Pence STILL beat Biden. Would the Democrats then go back to being Democrats? I'd like to think so, but not much evidence to support that conclusion.