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Kind of ironic all these expats coming from countries where their governments have looted the national assets and indentured the citizens into the distant future, started wars for no reasons, but they wouldn't fight THOSE governments. Not with their OWN blood. They sure get bloodthirsty on behalf of other people though. Yeah, let them shed some blood, yeah, burn it down. Yeah! Armchair insurgents.

My observations from spending time on many parcels of land here. Orient your house to take full advatage of local and distant views. Orient to natural water features. Limit size of SW and west facing windows. Insulate your ceiling well and some thick Qcon style blocks facing south and west would probably be an advantage. The greatest heat I experience, both ambient and radiating is in the late afternoon hours when SW and W facing surfaces are most heated. Good tree placement will take care of some of these issues.

What a very good post.I like it, make sense; I agree 100%

What Thailand need is a REAL ELECTION.

Funny to read how a lot of retired old men, angry americans with their terrorist laws and Abisit fans seemes to think this is just something that has to be stopped - so they can go on doing - what ever. Some times you have to stand up for what is right, and I think this will take along time, but a military government is not a good idea - would you like that in your respective native countries - NO WAY!

If you old military freaks want this, why don't you move your gear to Burma!

Excellent..it's good to see someone using their brain and simple common sense! Hats off to you sir/madam!

While this is military backed or liked government, this is not a military government!

there is a huge difference between the 2.

Are there any generals in the current gov who are ministers?

Is current PM a an officer in the army? or an ex officer?

Its all well and good to sit there and point fingers with vivid imagination, but facts are facts

Correct and regardless of when elections are held and whoever wins, the military still could exercise their great power and remove the government. They have shown less inclination to remove governments that work on the public's behalf than those that work on behalf of office holders. That's a win/win situation. The longer that win/win situation continues the weaker the military gets, which is win/win/win.

This is probably just coincidence, but has anyone noticed that Abhisit's father has a board seat, with Prem, at CP Group? And CP Group and Bangkok Bank (where he's on the board as well) provided financing for the PAD protests and airport takeovers?

And maybe its just a further coincidence that in Thanong's blog today he says Red Shirts are getting funding from a major food supplier and a bank.

Should be perfectly acceptable then, right? Or are you suggesting that Abhisit & Co. are as corrupt as Thaksin & Co. allegedly are?

No, I'm not saying either. I don't know if the first "fact" you stated is true or not and I don't know if what Thanong wrote is true either. I just thought it was odd, your post, right after I got done reading his blog. If you're implying that Abhisit funds either, I think you're probably way off base.

This is probably just coincidence, but has anyone noticed that Abhisit's father has a board seat, with Prem, at CP Group? And CP Group and Bangkok Bank (where he's on the board as well) provided financing for the PAD protests and airport takeovers?

And maybe its just a further coincidence that in Thanong's blog today he says Red Shirts are getting funding from a major food supplier and a bank.

While they're out here messing up our city, why don't WE go to their farms and set their crops ablaze and burn everything they have to the ground? Now there's a thought. Might be enough to have em' scrambling back to where they SHOULD be ...

If you lived in the north you'd know they already burned everything before they headed for Bangkok.

I don`t see the point of Thaksin making comparisons between Abhisit and Hitler, as most of Thaksin`s supporters are too uneducated to know who was Hitler or what he stood for.

Most of Thaksin's supporters are too uneducated to know who Thaksin really is or what he stands for.

I second that!

Zzzzzzzzzzz this sort of 'contribution' doesn't help - there are many valid negative critisisms about the ex-PM but I think labelling anyone who may agree with the ex-PM (yes he is an ex-PM) as 'uneducated' is a very fundamental error in judgement (and no I am not a supporter or apologist but I hate all this name-calling and labelling - veyr nice and safe to do it now he's not in power).

You're suggesting it would be less safe for people to offer their opinions (right or wrong) if Thaksin were to return. I would tend to agree with you on that.

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Typical YELLOW rich kid (and son of politician) in a spot car.

If only you could read Thai.

If you google his name, you will find that he ....

I'll grant you that's amarttaya alright.

http://www.mof.go.th/mofleader/amnuay.html

OT I know:

I think you're living in some kind of fantasy world. The poor have Thailand were just as poor under the Thaksin puppet parties as they are now and changing the ruling party from one to another will have absolutely no effect on that, except perhaps to make it worse considering public debt doubled during the TRT/PTP years.

An uninformed view. According to the New York Times,

"people using mobile phones in the vast, rice-growing northeast had more than doubled to 5.3 million. Incomes in the northeast rose nearly 50 percent during the Thaksin government and even more in the provinces east and south of Bangkok."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/world/as...t=cse&scp=1

The Red Shirts are rationally pursuing their economic interests as every group is presumed to do in a pluralistic society.

What they are pursuing is debt forgiveness as what your statistics don't show is that household debt more than doubled during the Thaksin years. I also recall a poll from that era where some provinces in the NE showed that over 50% of monthly household income went to phone services. Roi Et being one place I can remember right off the top of my head.

I work in the tourism field and this protest is costing me plenty of money. But its not my country. So I won't judge. What I will say is that clearly anyone who supported the yellow shirts can hardly complain about the reds moving to the center of Bangkok. After all, the yellows were the ones who shut down an international airport. And to watch the army rush in here to clear the reds out so quickly would be the height of double standards.

You don't think 3 weeks is long enough?

I have to admit I agree 100% with Naam on this one. (And I didnt buy things at the bottom, I was generally paying 50% above their lows.) And this still pisses me off today that there were so many companies (or assets) to BUY even assuming financial apocalypse at their lows.

At some point if you are buying say a stock at a quarter of net cash, you simply have to admit you were stupid not buy it rather than there is significant risk in buying it. I simply wasnt paying attention at the bottom. Others who were (and didnt buy) had either liquidity issues or were playing the greater fool theory - its incredibly cheap but just going to get cheaper.

As he says ' you could not arrive at another conclusion than "BUY!"'

Buying under net cash is one of my criteria for buying a stock in market swoons. I'm not sure how I'd have handled the further 50% fall after doing so. I probably should have been paying more attention to individual stocks here in Thailand. Lots of pretty good US tech companies could be had at discounts to cash on hand and a couple of those I did buy.

Lanna it came from a poster called Jcon who knocked the stock with zero research. Being my largest holding i was obliged to defend it. He brought up

So I say lets all call a truce and see if the thread can be turned into a postitive. Im happy to name stocks that i believe are on a verge of a rally. Dont have to be right everytime 7 wins out of ten will do just fine Other stock that i have just purchased are VIL at 3.1c and meo @ 37c

If anyone wants to discuss theses or any others want to contribute their own, fine by me.

OK zorro, I'm sorry I called you a fraud, but let me explain my reasoning. In over a decade on stock trading message boards I have never seen legitimate traders discuss anything other than ideas. With only rare exceptions did I ever hear anyone talk aboout the money they were making and never have I heard them be insulting of those who had differing ideas. I think the reason for this is, that in those settings people provide self generated, supporting arguments, usually in the form of a chart with appropriate T/A or sometimes even fundamentals arguments. Never do I see abuse and insults traded between posters who present their ideas in good faith, regardless of whether they turn out to be wrong or right. Those that are right more often than wrong readers are able to distinguish for themselves and they also have their own personal profits as their reward.

Now, about penny stocks, I'm not a fan as they are the antithesis of what I look for when trading. I want low volatility and extremely high liquidity. I don't want to wake up one morning to a 50% or more haircut. That said, I do realize it sometimes works the other way and some people can profit handsomely. It's just not my game.

About your chart, save for the daily close outside the Bollinger band, which is often a reversal indicator, I think you'll see your indicators have let you down there. Also, I assume that's a daily chart, so why are there so many days where there is no price candlestick? You got that gap down at 7 which may get filled and if it does good for you.

You have a video do you? Well how much are they being paid. If thousands are being paid it can't be so much of a secret now can it?

That's the problem - it's not, and us BKK residents generally don't have to wait long until we hear first or second hand accounts of people paid to attend.

Not only is it not a secret, it is the Red Shirt organizers themselves that would like this widely known . They want to make sure evryone knows they can make some money for showing up. They can apply the "everyone does it" argument later if need be, but there's no substitutute for having bodies on the street in a protest.

So its against the "law" to criticise a court decision.

So then, how do voters get to change bad law to good law, when its against the "law" to do so?

I know how its achieved in a democracy, but how about thailand.

It's not that hard.

PEN

# Range 0.04 - 0.05

# 52 week 0.02 - 0.06

# Open 0.04

# Vol. 2.12M

# Mkt cap 61.92M

Q4 (Dec '09) 2009

Net profit margin -2082.58% -1090.24%

Operating margin -2082.58% -1090.24%

EBITD margin - -1083.33%

Return on average assets -14.08% -8.11%

Return on average equity -14.50% -8.38%

So, how did a topic purported to be about the global stock market with a market cap of many trillions of dollars turn into a discussion of an individual micro cap stock that has a daily turnover of 84,800 dollars? Penny stocks are an interesting topic (I guess) for some, but if you want to talk about penny stocks you should open a thread about it. Then you could get into all kinds of interesting suptopics like reverse splits, vulture financing, RICO statutes, etc.

Ban Nai Fun 2, Lanna Pinery, House in Park all 5-10 minutes from LIST. No airplane noise at any of them.

In their day to day lives no group of people suppresses the freedoms of the Thai peasantry more than their local chao por and the police. Interestingly, both groups are aligned with this movement that says it seeks to empower these very same people. You don't think there's a rub there?

This would not be the first 'revolution' to turn on those who have 'joined' it for what is perceived by the grass roots as ideologically impure reasons. OK that's a bit wordy- but I think you get my drift. If the people have learned that they can, as a united force, challenge not just the gov't but the Privy council= what is to stop them challenging those who exploit them day by day- regardless of what color shirt the powermongers wore back in the halcion days of 2010?

But I fear that I am being too idealistic- it takes generations to change a culture- especially one where well being is determined by playing ball in the arena of nobless oblige- still- this might be a beginning.

My worst fear, which I think I share with you, is that this will turn out to be nothing more than a demand for rights- but no committment to responsibilities. But like all fears- that is projection into a dimension none of us can know. The mere fact that the nature of Thai society- the cultural underpinnings are being questioned can not be a bad thing.

What was it that Mor Weng said to Abhisit? - "You be quiet, I'm older you listen." The underpinnings seem to be pretty strong with him.

In Thailand, culture transcends ideology. In a culture where people don't know who they are if they can't identify who's "bigger" than them and who's "lower" than them, there will always be someone who will present themselves to be their "patron". That's nothing like democracy and you're not going to change those attitudes this weekend, this year or this decade. What you can do is begin to offer good governance, ensure fair elections and incrementally move towards a fair and just society. Nothing I see in the current leadership of the Red Shirt movement suggests that is their goal, despite their fiery rhetoric.

Let's be honest here, this is the only "Double Standard" that Thaksin and his paid supporters care about:

Is that right? Nobody objects to the arbitrary application of law (including traffic laws), the know your place mentality of beaurocratic officals at most levels, the fact that the poor are expected to kow-tow to the powerful? Is there not a wide spread perception that the powerful and rich and well placed get away with stuff that would see the average joe behind bars in a heartbeat? And nobody minds that?

Yeah, I think people object to that, here in Thailand and everywhere else too. I object to that and I'm sure you do too. That is not the aim of this partcular protest however, and even if the protest were successful in toppling this government, it is my sincere belief that the goal of achieving a fairer and more egalitarian society would be pushed FURTHER away. It is my belief, and I am a Red Shirt supporter, is that no government has ever done more or intends to do more to achieve the Red Shirts stated goals than the present one, imperfect as it is.

Is it not the aim? Is the core of poverty in most third world/developing countries not the need of the elites to keep the poor away from power- Maybe the redshirts can not- or do not- articulate the frustration the way I might- that doesn't mean that frustration is not what is fueling this. (read about the jaqueries =- the peasant revolts- of Europe- unfocused- grabbing at ideological straws- but born of genuine dissatisfaction with the status quo as they perceived it==- and those who had ignored the mounting frustration, paid a terrible price.)

Thaksin was a SOB- but he was THEIR SOB- and to them, I think, that his treatment is interpreted as further evidence of the contempt with which the elites hold the poor- and the extent they will go to to deprive the poor of any kind of voice. In that sense, Thaksin may be nothing more than a symbol.

In their day to day lives no group of people suppresses the freedoms of the Thai peasantry more than their local chao por and the police. Interestingly, both groups are aligned with this movement that says it seeks to empower these very same people. You don't think there's a rub there?

Let's be honest here, this is the only "Double Standard" that Thaksin and his paid supporters care about:

Is that right? Nobody objects to the arbitrary application of law (including traffic laws), the know your place mentality of beaurocratic officals at most levels, the fact that the poor are expected to kow-tow to the powerful? Is there not a wide spread perception that the powerful and rich and well placed get away with stuff that would see the average joe behind bars in a heartbeat? And nobody minds that?

Yeah, I think people object to that, here in Thailand and everywhere else too. I object to that and I'm sure you do too. That is not the aim of this partcular protest however, and even if the protest were successful in toppling this government, it is my sincere belief that the goal of achieving a fairer and more egalitarian society would be pushed FURTHER away. It is my belief, and I am a Red Shirt supporter, is that no government has ever done more or intends to do more to achieve the Red Shirts stated goals than the present one, imperfect as it is.

Let's be honest here, this is the only "Double Standard" that Thaksin and his paid supporters care about:

K, previous PM kicked out for his cooking show crap, then this PM was voted in by politicians not by the people, and these politicians are controlled by the military.......So is that a fair vote from the people? No.

All PM's are voted in by MP's. All MP's are voted in by the people.

What do you mean what was taken from them??? Their right to vote who goes into power!!

Not only wasn't that right taken away from them, many were even payed to exercise it.

Whatever it takes, but I do think there should be mass arrests and lawbreakers made to pay. The incentive to be a rent a mob for the puppet master must be stopped.

Easy to say, but the Red Shirts hold most of the cards in this game IMO. Much easier to destroy something than build or save something. I wish it wasn't so.

Given some other dark figures in their movement, Sae Daeng and Arisiman, they would think nothing of ridding the "Ammats" of their means of mass transportation. Unfortunately, they are at a prime location for carrying that something like that out.

I wasn't thinking about doing bombings against property. I was thinking that a grenade thrown into their own crowd by their own people would accomplish most of their goals.

Whatever it takes, but I do think there should be mass arrests and lawbreakers made to pay. The incentive to be a rent a mob for the puppet master must be stopped.

Easy to say, but the Red Shirts hold most of the cards in this game IMO. Much easier to destroy something than build or save something. I wish it wasn't so.