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I know enough about international negotiations that you do NOT ever negotiate in front of the press. An agreement he could have signed in Munich more than a week ago. Grandstanding in front of the press while trying to get money from your donor is foolish. Zelensky is not the man in charge. He wants something from the US. Fine. Act like it. Say, "we have an agreement, thank you for your generosity, we will have a strong partnership going forward, what's for lunch?". He is far too cocky for someone in his desperate position.

1. dressing disrespectfully 2. not referring to the VP by his title 3. raising his voice in the Oval Office 4. refusing to sign the mining agreement without a trip to Washington 5. talking over the President 6. possibly costing his country a great agreement 7. letting his ego get in the way of doing business Basically, Zelensky cannot both go hat in hand to beg the USA for support and also be arrogant.

Churchill when sitting with the President at an important meeting.

Really? I am honestly a bit stunned at your oversimplification. Churchill dressed as the situation demanded. Zelinsky does not. Constantly uploading a picture of Churchill wearing something other than a formal suit is actually rather funny. Not to mention the constant harping on Putin, who is not the subject of the discussion at all. Yet he, like Trump, seems to occupy a large part of the space between your ears.

Ah yes, the ad hom attack yet again, in the absence of substance. Comparing Z to Churchill is wonderfully ridiculous. Unlike Churchill, who actually dressed suitably for important meetings.

'Leadership in crisis' would involve signing the damn deal that would help his country. NOT getting into public arguments with his most important benefactor. Shows he values pride and image over substance.

Why? Because the media narrative as usual got the situation wrong. And I am tiring of his arrogance and sense of entitlement. It would have taken so little for Zelensky, as the supplicant, to win the day for his country. But his pride got in the way. And his cosplay act is getting tiring. As for the tired old 'bone spurs' dig, we can rehash all the previous politicians who dodged service in Vietnam if you wish. But to what purpose? The only actual military veteran in the conversation was JD Vance.

Ah yes. The ad hom attack in place of any useful reply. Not surprising.

Really, that the best you got?

Probably the best the little comedian could come up with is a weak pimp slap.

Nice try. First, Churchill was a military veteran, Zelensky is not. Second, this unknown photo was NOT taken at a formal meeting between heads of state. For those, Churchill dressed appropriately. Third, this was NOT Churchill's dailly attire. Zelensky seems enamored with appearing like a tough guy.

I would like to know what is false about it. Other than the false notion that Zelensky is always too busy to dress appropriately.

No, but he DID go through recruit training (which includes hand to hand combat and weapons skills) before moving on to his particular specialty. More than could be said for the cosplay guy. I'm not the one posting pathetic fantasy memes.

You seriously comparing Zelensky to.... Churchill? Must be in the same yoga class as BKKevin. Churchill, as I recall, wore suits to his meetings with Stalin and Roosevelt. Also, as I recall, Churchill was an actual military veteran.

You must do a lot of yoga to streeeeeeetch like that.

Well, you have to decide which Zelensky is. According to Mama Beeb, he is still willing to sign the mining deal with the US. I have a feeling that some of Zelensky's more clever advisors got in his ear during the trans-Atlantic flight and basically told him that he screwed the pooch. Meeting Starmer was lovely, but our Piers only promised him 1% of the aid that the US could give.

Figured this would come up. Not if you are begging for money and the survival of your country. There is a not very storied history of political leaders playing dress-up as if they were in the military. It tends not to coincide with democracy or freedom.

Nice masturbatory fantasy. More likely would be Marine veteran JD Vance choking out little Vloddy, whose total military experience seems to be a bizarre form of cosplay.

In spite of his constant efforts to appear as revolutionary-chic in his fatigues, the man actually can dress when he wants to. As a former performer, he understands the optics of dress. So his choice of attire to meet a man he is begging money from was...curious, to say the least. But I guess to Zelensky, meeting Klaus Schwab was more important than meeting President Trump.

Small fly in your ointment is that, according to the BBC, Zelenski is now suddenly prepared to SIGN the mineral deal with the US. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5220x56pqt

Quick question- in multi-party countries, is it common for the party with the most votes/seats (but not an outright majority) to be denied the first chance to form a government? I haven't heard of it happening before, but I may be wrong. Seems to me that bureaucratic Euro-lefties are afraid of their own people. I checked about the FPO in Austria, but couldn'T find anything terribly radical or dangerous in their policies. Just standard right of centre populism.

I think the attention deficit may be yours. Vance and Rubio have been sitting in on all recent meetings with world leaders, especially the ones in the Oval Office in front of the fireplace. This setting is supposed to be just for public relations, at the conclusion of behind closed doors negotiating. Vance is a graduate of Yale Law School etc. Trump has run a multi billion dollar global corporation for decades. And your, as well as others, have the temerity to question their intelligence? It is to laugh. Zelensky screwed the pooch by attempting to renegotiate in public. And was rightfully slapped down. He can get away with that with the syncophants in Europe, but not in Washington. Now he has talked himself into a corner. The Euros talk a tough game but have nothing to back it up with. As Scott Jennings put it so well on CNN; "All he had to do was walk in and say, thank you. I'm really grateful to be here. We want to be partners with the United States. We're grateful for your leadership. Where's the papers and what are we having for lunch? That's all he had to do."

Just saw the footage of the meeting in the Oval Office. My God, Zelensky is an utter, arrogant fool. You do NOT go into another country and disrespect their leader like that. Trying to argue in front of the media is a great way to make your country cease to be. Not to mention always showing up in a t-shirt like he is some kind of warrior who is just "too busy" to dress appropriately. You are meeting the President of the United States, and begging for his help. Show a little class. I guess he is used to being feted and celebrated by the squishy pols who inhabit Europe. But when he visits America's House, he needs to step small.

It is classic leftist thinking. That they 'own' certain minority groups and their political support. And when they lose that support, they have to justify it somehow. Because there is no way whatsoever that non-white people could POSSIBLY be conservative or pro-Trump, unless they are brainwashed or stupid. So they need the helpful guidance of white lefties to get them back on the plantation.

That's interesting. Because up to 15 minutes ago, Musk was hailed as a visionary and a genius whose EVs would change the world, one of the greatest minds of our time. Then, when he began to support Trump, he suddenly became either a racist idiot, or an evil puppetmaster. And now the bright lights on the far left are vandalizing the property of people who have ALREADY bought Tesla cars. Classic emotional tantrums that have zero meaning and do nothing to influence Musk himself.