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JayBird
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You reach a point where you have so many clusters you might as well call the city one big clusterf*ck.
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Long distance learning.
University of London.
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18 hours ago, jacko45k said:
Driving like a farang...1000 baht, it really confuses the locals when you do the right thing.
That's covered under scary. It's scary when someone drives correctly.
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5 minutes ago, hotchilli said:They forgot to add a zero.
It might be 2%. Something huge like 80% of the population are classified as farmers.
And it's possible those who lost a job get classified as a farmer.
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6 hours ago, WineOh said:
of course it has.
I'd love to know how much china bunged them for that endorsement.
Nothing. Endorsement by WHO does not mean they tested the vaccine independently.
It only means they reviewed the evidence and documentation given to them, and that those meet the standards.
As for the accuracy of said documentation, that is for China to ensure.
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6 hours ago, ikke1959 said:
First focus on the country instead of the tourists.... It seems the tourists are the most important thing in Thailand now, but first of all solve the covid crisis in the country and with the people. When you have that under control, tourist will come .. before certainly not
Sadly, the country is tourism. Without a tourism industry this country will crash very hard.
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5 hours ago, WineOh said:
I will go to my local hospital on June 7.
I will also enquire with what brand of jab they intend to stick me with.
If the words 'sinovac' are uttered by anyone at the hospital I shall be walking straight back out the door.
My arm, my choice.
Sinopharm ok? ????
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Is this even the responsibility of a consulate or embassy?
I thought the only time they would reach out to me is to evac me during a war.
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There's a clinic every 5 feet. Probably more people who know how to inject than want that vaccine.
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1 minute ago, TheFreqFlyer said:
LOL. Foreigners aren't covered here. Only Thais. Even so, it's a shocking abuse of power and human rights. Everyone should be treated with dignity and have bodily autonomy, whether Thais or foreigners. Even if this mafia like ruling is never applied to foreigners, my heart goes out to the poor Thais that may/will be affected by this.
Not covered... today. Could change tomorrow.
Then change back next week.
Then flip flop again the week after.
Talk about russian roulette ????
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Perhaps they will hire Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf (Baghdad Bob) to handle the news ????
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Could be a funny thought:
They open to tourists, but require them to be injected upon arrival in the airport. Doesn't matter if they were previously vaccinated (too old!). Don't like it? Airport prison then pay for flight back ????-
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4 minutes ago, 2 is 1 said:
Thailand was among the first nations to sign the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948 and seemed committed to safeguarding Human Rights in Thailand. In practice, the reality has been that the powerful can abuse the human rights of their subjects with impunity.
"quoted from google"
Thank you, yes. Unfortunately, I believe this is not legally binding. More of an aspirational thing.
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1 minute ago, Amdesign said:
Exactly! This is WHO's approach.
The WHO should be informed that Thai health minister is supporting forced vaccination.
In fact, what these 'ex-police generals' in governor chairs are doing are terrifying the population. This is completely illegal and has to be stopped. They can't restrict the rights of people based on sick mentality decisions.
Other governments have done far worse for worse reasons. At least the populace isn't being told to shoot up bleach ????
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5 minutes ago, Trujillo said:What about those who had covid and recovered (the approximately 98%)? They have the same or greater (read: Chinese vaccine in particular) protection naturally as from a vaccine.
Vaccines are a way to "trick" the body into thinking it needs to make anti-bodies without actually having the sickness; therefore, those who have tested positive in the past, and are not now deceased, are protected in exactly the same way, only achieved via natural means. This is not a secret, yet why is this fact being ignored?
One caveat: If we got ill and recovered during the first wave, that was so long ago, the immunity could have expired and we'd get sick in this 3rd/4th wave. There is no data to support the concept of life-long immunity, especially against variants.
We may be looking at needing to roll up our sleeves on a yearly basis and help China develop it's new vaccine ????
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It's an interesting point if this is a 'Human Rights' violation or not. As far as I know, such things are handled by the Country's own legislation, rather than being dictated by say the UN.
I do not know if Thailand has a Human Rights Act (such as the UK, Australia, etc.). And how many ways that could be interpreted.
I do know some legislation takes into consideration the concept of 'Right To Life', and could be used in this situation to state that by an individual not taking the vaccine they are endangering the right to life of others.
Legally, I doubt that anything could be done about forced vaccination, certainly not in time, and very unlikely by a foreigner. And the foreigner always has the option to simply leave if they do not like the rules here, so do not expect much help from your home country.
Note: I'm not anti-vaccine. I'm all for it. Show me the approved and tested stuff from the US/EU and I'll roll up both sleeves. However, I have yet to see sufficient data and independent research on the vaccines developed in China to give me the confidence that they are safe and effective.
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42 minutes ago, sungod said:I'm kinda confused, first we had a bunch or foreingers complaining they couldn't get a vaccine, now we have a bunch of foreigners complaining they will be forced to have one. ????
The foreigners want the 'vaccine' (AZ, Pfizer, J&J, Moderna). Not the 'experimental drug' from China ????
When the Sinovac or whichever chinese one is the flavour of the month here is approved by the WHO and other governments, then I'm sure foreigners will reconsider their position.
Additionally, getting Sinovac won't meet the requirements of being vaccinated when returning home. Potentially needing to be vaccinated *again*.
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Thank you.
So this is really happening. Wonder how long till they expand to the rest of the country?
Will all foreigners be lined up and required to get the Chinese vaccine?
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On 4/29/2021 at 9:46 AM, bbabythai said:
what about pole dancing clubs on walking street?
Even in the best of times, those are so boring I would not notice if they were closed ????
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On 5/5/2021 at 10:55 PM, Bkktodd said:
Considering the majority of the virus spread was domestic how so?? Even thailand admitted that the entertainment venues and migrant work camps was a root cause of the virus waze. Thailand didnt admit that letting Songkran festival and traveling out from bkk was a very bad idea. Why penalize expats/tourists who meet all strict requirements.
Naturally spread is domestic, not sure how else it could be. I am referring to the introduction of new variants which existed outside of Thailand. The only way they could get into Thailand is through the border.
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I'm hearing some reports that vaccinations in certain areas (smaller villages in upcountry) might be requiring it's residents to get vaccinated or face a penalty (unsure if its just a fine or more).
Anyone hearing something along those lines?
Trying to get more clarification, and some of the finer details may not have been properly passed on.
Thank you.
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Don't all the banks require you to have a job or visible source of income?
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13 minutes ago, khunjeff said:
What exactly would motivate Pfizer to pay a bribe when they can sell 100% of their production in a heartbeat at almost any price they might care to name?
Maybe that's why they are not here? ????
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Given that out break in Thailand, and the lack of vaccine, surely it makes sense to close the border 99%? (Only citizens and those with a very valid reason, i.e. To help with the epidemic are allowed quarantine)?
Pattaya Mayor says city still plans to open to foreign vaccinated tourists by September 1st, developing final plans
in Pattaya News
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Open September. But moderna vaccine planned to arrive in October.
This does not add up.