wildewillie89

Just now, dick dasterdly said:

You're lucky.

 

Do you think that either the pepper or turmeric bought at the market was organic??

The market turmeric was still in plant form. So people most probably picked/bought it from a farm like ours and then sell it on for a higher price. Usually what happens in rural areas if people don't have farm land. 

In saying that, the dose is so small that I am sure the turmeric you can buy in both Tesco and Makro would not harm the dog. Also achieves the desired benefits. Wouldn't surprise me if even the Makro one in the bag was organic, the Mrs says the stuff is everywhere here in Thai (hence why sell it at markets). The Tesco one is just a little jar in the spice section. 

2 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

And that's where the recipe falls apart in Thailand.

 

Organic tumeric?

We have it on our farm. I didn't know at first though and when discussing the recipe with a colleague at work she came back an hour later with pepper and turmeric from the local market. 

*Edit: The stuff at Makro also does the job in terms of painkilling if people are too lazy to handle the plant (as literally everything turns yellow). 

On 6/27/2018 at 9:42 AM, overherebc said:

Have you got a spare kennel I could rent to move into?

Only if you like stories haha. 

23 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Can you give some approximate quantities for the turmeric mix please? Our dog is struggling to overcome a leg sprain and the anti-inflammatories from the vet seem to be taking forever to resolve it.

Depends on how big your dog is really. There hasn't been any real research on what a correct dose should be. But what we do know is that is needs to be added to black pepper and coconut oil to help the body absorb it. Also needs to be given 2-3 times a day as it leaves the body quickly. My dog is about 55kg at 1 year old now so I give it half a tablespoon of the paste in the morning and half in the evening. I store the paste in the fridge for about 2 weeks before making a new one. 

Start small, maybe half a teaspoon and see how the dog goes with it. 

To make the paste it is:

1 hour ago, chrisinth said:

Just in addition to what wildewillie89 (correctly) said above, another concern that your friend may have is bringing a 'guard type dog' into an established pack (albeit only two dogs) of smaller dogs and the socializing that will (probably) need to be done. Exercise will be another concern as the larger type dog will need more than the smaller ones. If you don't provide the exercise, prepare for the destruction!

 

Before taking a dog for adoption, for the purpose of guarding, be very sure of that animal before bringing it home.

The 'guard-type' dogs that are becoming popular in Thai you really don't want to be introducing into a home with small animals. Even my Fila at 4 months old immediately attacked the in-laws Pug when they first met. Many working dogs have a natural drive for small animals anyway, but many lines are incredibly sharp in Thai (as haven't been diluted to fit better into society like back in the West). Socialisation as a puppy is obviously incredibly hard in Thailand depending where you live due to disease (especially if live in red zone rabies areas). Not to mention, socialisation of a guard dog is so much more intense than socialisation of a normal dog (literally have to take the dog everywhere you go). 

Even if they do manage to get along, they play very rough with other dogs. Not so rough with humans with training, but rough with dogs as their play is just a softer version of their more hardcore instincts (attack). 50 plus kg landing awkwardly on the leg of a 6kg dog is an expensive vet bill.

Exercise is a must. If the dog has a lot of land and is a  'guard dog' it will self-exercise. However, still need to walk it as it will want to work in the outside its border as well. Walking a working 'guard dog' isn't the same as walking a Labrador. So need areas with space, and no buildings etc where people will walk around the corner out of nowhere. 

Really, unless the dog is adaptable and has been trained to be a 'guard dog', like some German Shepherds etc, which takes a lot of dedication (especially if adopted), the only place to own such dogs is in rural settings. People have unrealistic expectations these days. They want the dog to be calm enough to take on the schools runs, but to defend their property. 99% of dogs may look like they are 'guard dogs', but if challenged will run scared. People don't want to spend the money/time on getting a dog up to scratch so the natural 'guard dogs' are starting to become popular now in Thailand. Natural 'guard dogs' are not trained police dogs that wait for a command. They independently assess the situation themselves and attack - thus being a huge risk to the public in inexperienced hands. Also a huge risk in the home if the environment isn't set up right, and lack of experience. 

My step mother is from Singapore so I got desnsitised to at least eating chicken feet before I moved here. Sometimes still feel a bit weird handling them though.

Been doing the turmeric for about a month now. The Fila got in a bit of pain on one leg again (just over 1 year old now) and was pretty down on himself. After a few days of turmeric he was back to his normal annoyingly energetic self lol. I remembered reading a long time ago somewhere that studies found it as effective as ibuprofen (haven't looked at the study though). Seeing as the NSAIDs the vets prescribe can be really hit and miss with side effects it may be an option for people. 
 

Give my dogs a fish and boiled egg (with shell) for breakfast. Dinner they will get a chicken carcass or chicken breast/thighs and another small amount protein source (sometimes pork, sometimes beef). We buy in bulk and freeze for various amounts of times. In addition to their standard food (above), they will either receive a cup of dry food or left over meals. So usually rice or soup with vegetables/meat to get the nutrients the sole meat diet doesn't provide. A couple of times a week they will also get a little bit of organ and chicken feet (supposedly good for glucosamine/chondroitin). 

I also make a turmeric paste (turmeric, water, black pepper and coconut oil) and give it to the dogs morning and night. Just spread it over the chicken carcass and slice open the fish. One of our dogs has growing pains sometimes and we initially got pain killers from the vet. The turmeric paste works just as well - plus is healthier and cheaper. Maybe an option for those people who have older dogs with arthritis or joint issues. I mainly use the turmeric and the chicken feet as our dogs are continually putting their joints through stress, so it is mostly in hope that it will slow down early arthritis/inflammation to help them in the future. 

Just a bit of information for those concerned.

This year there have been 22 animal fatalities due to rabies so far - 15 dogs and 7 cats. These fatalities have occurred in 12 of the 16 districts (so a  widespread problem). So far there have been no human deaths. The Governor was recently advised and acted to make the province a 'red zone' area for rabies.  

The issues with Tessabans obtaining the vaccines are still occurring. Some sub-districts would have already vaccinated public/private dogs, whilst many are still on the waiting list. Some would have done half the villages within their sub-district, but the other half have not been done.

The Livestock Office would have vaccinated the immediate area (1km) from where a animal was found dead. Earlier in the year, they were vaccinating 5kms from the body, but with the spike in numbers this got reduced to 1km. There is also a borrow scheme happening, so areas that have not vaccinated for 3 years can borrow vaccines from Bangkok and then when they receive their vaccines they will send them to replace the ones they borrowed. However, not many sub-districts fit the criteria for that. 

The vaccine the province is using is the imported Defensor 3 vaccine. I personally would not be waiting for the Tessaban to vaccinate your family and extended families dogs. The private vet clinics have adequate vaccines (including Defensor 3), and they are not at all expensive. You can also buy the vaccine and arrange the vet who works in the government office to administer it if live in a desirable location (with a fee), if taking your dog to the vet is deemed impossible (no vehicle).

Educational posters should have been put up around the village meeting areas. Education about what one should do if licked, scratched or bitten should have been discussed on the daily village announcements. Public schools (and nurseries - parents in attendance), should have had Public Health Officials visit them to discuss how to wash, tell parents, go to hospital etc. 

Future ideas to tackle the problem involve desexing dogs at the same time as vaccinating them. The current problem with this is bureaucracy as it is illegal to use municipality budgets to buy the drugs to faint the dog to perform the procedure.  Also the proposed law that has been discussed on this forum about the animal wearing a vaccine tag. Even today, no department has knowledge about who will enforce the law. Also, finally, there are ideas being pushed about to put a tax on dogs. So for every dog a annual fee will need to be paid. This is to try and push people to desex their dogs or they will need to pay a fee for each puppy born. Again, the issue if this gets up comes down to who will enforce it. 

*Edit: If you see an animal that has died you can contact your local municipality who will pick it up and take it to the Vet Office. They will cut the head off and from memory send it to Korat to be tested. We found a cat just outside our house and did this. 



 

I think we are moving back into mental health disorders now. Enjoy the thread ? 

Just now, Justfine said:

Your source is discredited. You lose again.

The very first result that will come up in a simple search is a Harvard University piece discussing the science. Harvard is discredited?

What did I lose the first time? 

Just now, Justfine said:

The WHO is pc and also corrupt.

 

 

 

 

Along with every researcher on the matter? 

29 minutes ago, greenchair said:

They used to be homo, lesbian or transvestite. 

And all under the umbrella of gay. And everyone new their place in society. 

It's crazy now. 

I refuse to buy into it. 

Why are you so scared to develop with the rest of the world? It isn't a matter of opinion, it is a matter of science. 

From memory, the science has even got to the point where studies now show that identical twins are more often both transgender than fraternal twins. So a matter of genes, not environment. 20 years of brain research has also indicated genes may be the answer. 

The science is why the World Health Organisation is trying to promote the declassification of being transgender as a mental health disorder. 

Unfortunately, it should have never got to that point. People should just be able to self-identify. But because of people like you, who live as if the world is the same as it was when you were born, the issue got taken into the lab. 

On 6/19/2018 at 1:45 PM, greenchair said:

He's a man. He'll always be a man. He is a transgender male.

I think one poster has already pointed this out, but Google the definition of 'transgender male'. 

 

We may have a difference in definitions of 'guard-type dog'. You may mean what I would call a 'watch dog'. The dog may bark, but be expected to do absolutely nothing else and also be expected to run away scared when challenged. Even so, I would be incredibly cautious, well to be honest, I would tell her not to do it at all. 

Adopting a guard-type dog to live with children and small animals is a recipe for disaster in most countries. Those dogs usually fail temperaments tests so are destroyed by facilities. It is for this reason guard-type dogs have their own separate groups who only house the dogs with experienced people. In Thailand, it is almost a guaranteed disaster due to the life it has most likely had to end up in an adoption facility. 

For it to have a higher chance of working it needs to be a puppy. But even then the dog has probably already experienced a pretty rough life in the most important socialisation period of its life. Not to mention the backyard breeding programs that ends up forming unstable temperaments. It is why it is important to check out the family/conditions the dog has come from if you have kids. Usually you cant do that with an adopted dog. 

I cant really see any 'reputable' place letting a dog of this nature go into a home with children and small dogs. I get the whole 'adopt a dog instead of buying', but there are certain circumstances that require buying. They are when you have kids/small dogs the dog will live with and working dogs. Even Soi Dogs, who I do not even consider that 'reputable', discussed this with me when I contacted them when I first moved to Thailand (in the hope to help a dog that wasn't even a working dog). Adopting a working guard-type dog is a completely different process than adopting your standard dog. 

The sister-in-law teaches at a private school in Korat. They only use the big coaches and will pay the police to drive in front.

Vans/buses are just the beginning of the troubles with Thai school trips. The trips are not at all beneficial (other than socially - just arrange a day out yourself with the kids friends). Trips are a means for the school to either make money, or get a day out. Teachers spend the day taking photos of themselves, no teaching or supervision occurs. 

As trips are usually things like going to the zoo, how hard is it to take your own kids there (even with a few of their friends). Or drive yourself behind the bus and tag along. I remember even back home parents would join the trip to help with supervision. 

A percentage of kids usually don't go anyway, so it isn't like your kid will be the only one who is missing out. Learning to cope with disappointment will probably be more beneficial (and obviously safer), than sending them on the trip on the school's terms.  

The Mrs went to a rabies conference the other day. I think it was 22 cases of animals dying of rabies in our province. Out of the 16 districts, only 4 districts haven't had a case so it is widespread. No human deaths so our province is being looked at to see what they are doing differently (no human deaths is dumb luck if you ask me). Looks like the governor is about to announce the province as a red zone. Prior to this year we hadn't had a rabies case for I think 12 years, and my immediate area had never had one. So not an exaggeration like many members on TV and Rescue Dog group claim. 

It is mostly a huge lack of education, particularly by the older (higher ranked/most powerful) officials. One old official even thought that you could not vaccinate cows. Defensor 3, which is the rabies vaccine most provinces are using this year, literally has written on it 'for use in dogs, cats, cattle and sheep only'. Real effective steps will not be able to put in place until those leading the charge get a basic understanding of the problem.

Other than the annual vaccination, educational posters being put up in the relevant spots, education on washing/going hospital being spoken about in village meetings/on loud speakers and in schools there are a few other ideas.

For example, they are looking at introducing dogs wearing vaccine collars and receiving fines if they do not. Many areas will try and do the faint drug and desexing at the same time as vaccine being administered next year. That is difficult though as the law doesn't allow local governments to buy the faint drug, only the vet office can. Many officials now are also pushing for a tax on dogs to be introduced. So people pay a yearly fee after showing vaccine records. The point of it is to make sure their dogs do get vaccinated and hopefully neutered/spayed at the same time. A fine will be issued for not paying the tax, and those dogs that end up with puppies will need to pay further taxes for each puppy. The dumped dogs (usually at the temple) will be rounded up and vaccinated/desexed. 

All well and good if the ideas get up. Just depends how much work the guys at the top want to do as it requires a slight change in some legislation and also, as always, there are major problems with who will be enforcing fines.  

I think most people on the forum probably keep their dogs either locked behind a fence or on a leash - especially if the dog is 'not approachable by strangers'. 

As a result, yes, not many folk use them. 

18 hours ago, Sheryl said:

The tourist visa is I think the root of your problem.

 

I'm not sure it has ever been possible to open a bank account with one.

 

Those of us with non-O visas or b visas and one year extensions of stay, have nto usually had much difficulty.

As far as I am aware (unless there were changes in the last few months), any foreigner can open a Thai Bangkok Bank account on a tourist visa with a government official as a referee (police, army, teacher, nurse etc etc). I had no difficulties opening an account with Bangkok Bank on a tourist visa (putting in the minimum amount to create the account). 

When at the bank not long ago a farang was having troubles. The Mrs told his wife the process and the bank teller (Bangkok Bank) said that would work. 

*One experience was a Bangkok Bank branch in Bangkok, the other in Chaiyaphum (Issan). 

**Edit: Krungthai bank required me to have a work permit, regardless if I had a official as a referee or a marriage visa. Not sure if that is a branch policy though. 

16 hours ago, glegolo said:

 I wish to add to this.... Here in Chaiyaphum I have myself helped like 5 or 6 falang-friends to get thai bank-accounts on Khrung Thai Bank. Khrunfs ri (ayutthaya Bank) Bangkok bank and Kasikorn Bank... ALL banks here without any exceptions, they demand to have proof of address, mostly the yellow book (tabien baan), but in one case even the driver license was OK.

 

So I have over time get myself tabien baan, thai ID-card, and driver licenses, and on top of that, I am married.

 

Without being nasty - But sometimes I wonder, over how helpless some people just are. "There are people who get things done - and there are people who must ask other people to get things done".... Which one are you?

 

glegolo

I got my Bangkok Bank account opened on a tourist visa, just needed a government official to sign it off. I was at Big C Bangkok Bank a few months ago and a farang was having difficulty, the Mrs told his wife to do that (most people know someone), and the teller said it would work also - like it did for me. From memory, I needed a work permit for KrungThai bank here. I don't have yellow book or Thai ID.

Didn't global health experts (WHO report) say that consuming processed meats like ham, bacon and sausages are as a bigger cancer threat as cigarettes. 

But some people are worried about the hormones in chickens (that may or may not be there - depending on where schools get their chickens from). If this is the case, then the argument isn't really about health is it? Seems more just someone having a major whinge about other's religions. Talk about segregation. 

Go talk to the school if you want to give your kids cancer just so you can complain about Muslims... not TV. 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

“The NHRC has received two complaints about school dress code, related to Anuban Pattani School and Hatyaiwittayalai School.

The teachers had an unnecessary whinge whilst at the same time they are making Buddhist students sit in uncomfortable positions for unnecessary long amounts of times.

So they went with the peaceful and reasonable action first, going through legitimate processes.

The teachers should remember that when the people in the South see no other option than to turn to violence when their way of life is not allowed.

I am of no religion and think all religions are ridiculous, but people do have that right under the current human right framework.