Bkk Brian

Ok so now we have the full quote, what else did she say or is that not on your topic list? I'll be happy to help out to remind you.

The topic is about Dr Phelps submission which covers many items not just the paragraph on more transparent reporting and Doctors being able to better relay any concerns they may have.

Not according to the lead researcher and one of the authors of the study.............. Kilian Schober: What does this mean for mRNA vaccination schemes? Our preprint had "gone viral" among some anti-vax circles, because it would supposedly show that mRNA vaccines are inducing "tolerance". This view is certainly too simplistic. mRNA vaccines have saved millions of lives. The T cell response for example that is elicited by mRNA vaccines is clearly pro-inflammatory. So it's not as easy to simply call it "tolerance". however, it is also conceivable that non-inflammatory Fc-mediated effector functions prevent immunological over-activation while virus is still being neutralized via high-avidity antibody variable regions. The adaptive immune system is elicited by SARS-2 vaccines, which have saved millions of lives. Especially in the elderly, but also among the younger. Again your summary is wrong and deliberately misleading, simplistic and out of context. Please provide a link to your claims because the study does not substantiate them at all.

This sounds like misinformation from the Australian Government. Why? What is so controversial about it? 4th dose unlikely to be approved for the under 30's. Covid Boosters are optional, nobody is being forced to take them. Its free choice, same as those who feel the need because of their own risk to take flu shots.

Russia Celebrates Turning Elon Musk Into a Useful Idiot On Monday, former Russian President and current Vladimir Putin stooge Dmitry Medvedev issued a flurry of outlandish predictions on his personal Twitter account. Among them: a Fourth Reich will be created in Europe; there will be a war between France and said Fourth Reich; Poland and Hungary will attack and occupy western regions of Ukraine; civil war will break out in the U.S., which would then split up, with Elon Musk emerging as a president; the E.U. will collapse; the International Monetary Fund would cease to exist; and all stock markets and financial activities will leave Europe and the U.S. and move to Asia. The so-called forecast made waves in the international media, and earned a response from Twitter boss Musk, who called Medvedev’s ramblings “an epic thread.” https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-celebrates-turning-elon-musk-into-a-useful-idiot-after-medvedev-twitter-rant

These massive missile attacks do nothing for their frontline positions, they do not make them gain any ground. Just pure blood thirsty terror tactics.

That is a two part article authored by him alone not a scientific study, not only have I provided a full fact check on that I have additionally posted for your attention a robust and recent fully peer reviewed study that finds very different results to his articles. Your link by the way, perhaps steer clear of the conspiracy theories.................. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-council-for-health-bias/

Nassau County Prosecutors Open Investigation Into Rep.-Elect George Santos Long Island prosecutors have launched an investigation into U.S. Rep.-elect George Santos of New York, after revelations surfaced that the now-embattled Republican lied about his heritage, education and professional pedigree as he campaigned for office. But despite intensifying doubt about his fitness to hold federal office, Santos has thus far shown no signs of stepping aside — even as he has publicly admitted to a long list of fabrications. “The numerous fabrications and inconsistencies associated with Congressman-Elect Santos are nothing short of stunning," said Nassau County District Attorney Anne T. Donnelly, a Republican. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nassau-county-prosecutors-open-investigation-into-rep-elect-george-santos/4018125/

Whatever those documents were, I thought all records had to be sent to the National Archives and if Trump was involved then they are also official Presidential Records.

The yellow cards issue was fully explained in the response by the cabinet minister and also in the fact check. Dr Malhotra's unsuppoted article is also well documented and unsubstantiated. Article by cardiologist Aseem Malhotra made unsupported claims about the benefits and risks of COVID-19 vaccination https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/article-by-cardiologist-aseem-malhotra-made-unsupported-claims-about-benefits-risks-covid-19-vaccination/ If you want a recent robust and peer reviewed study: New evidence finds heart conditions extremely rare after COVID-19 vaccination https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/new-evidence-finds-heart-conditions-extremely-rare-after-covid-19-vaccination

TESLA in reverse, twitter outages spiking. Can't log on with PC but its ok with the mobile app. https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/

Thinking too much, anything useful to add to the thread?

The thing with a parliamentary debate is that's its democratic even when Andrew Bridgen makes misleading claims and some pure conspiracy theories. The point of a debate is that there are two sides and you fail to have transcribed the full reply from the cabinet minister which covered just about all his points including the conspiracies. The response is all there in the video. If that's not enough, this also goes through some of his misleading claims: Andrew Bridgen's vaccine debate claims fact checked https://fullfact.org/health/andrew-bridgen-vaccine-safety-debate/ He has been fact checked before for misleading claims and asked for a response, he declined

So it wasn't a case of a wild claim accusation made by the poster, just a question A good question as Dr Phelps is not a virologist as stated on her personal submission: "I will leave it to the virologists to explain why it is exceptional from a virology point of view" Her statement that it does not stop transmission should really be it helps reduce transmission but does not stop it. (that according to latest studies)

Nobody claimed she was making wild claims. We all know that vaccines do not prevent transmission 100%. Just like the flu vaccine. However as linked above in the Gavi study they can help reduce transmission. Dr Phelps was just making the same point in her submission that its still possible for breakthrough infections be that with vaccine induced break through or a repeated covid only induced break through. Claiming they do not stop transmission is not the same as they do have no affect whatsoever. Covid vaccines help prevent deaths and serious disease but they do not always stop it.

If you don't think they are credible why link to them for your arguments? OzSAGE's core belief are vaccines as the absolute with other health measures as a must. ie their mission: "Vaccine-Plus" Dr Phelps has actively linked to OzSAGE statements in her personal submission as a reference. Being an executive member.

Seeing as your go to credible source is now OzSAGE a pro vaccine org then here are a couple that are even more recent than the above: Dec 20th OzSAGE says “avoid decking the halls with COVID-19 folly” – Vaccinate children aged 6 months to 5 years – Provide bivalent boosters to anyone who has not had a COVID-19 vaccine in the last six months – Mandate clean air indoors, and mask wearing in specific high-risk locations – Widen access to ongoing testing for COVID-19 https://ozsage.org/media_releases/ozsage-christmas/ Nov 29th Long covid – OzSAGE makes detailed submission to the Parliamentary Inquiry Vaccination can reduce the risk of a person developing long COVID and other serious post-acute sequelae of COVID-19. The extent of protection remains uncertain, with estimates ranging from 15 to 41%, indicating less than half of cases of long COVID are prevented through vaccination. A vaccine-only pandemic strategy is insufficient to protect Australians from long COVID and repeat SARS-CoV-2 infections, particularly when, without action, high numbers of infections will continue to occur.  https://ozsage.org/media_releases/long-covid-ozsage-makes-detailed-submission-to-the-parliamentary-inquiry/ Open Letter to National Cabinet from OzSAGE – 13 Dec 2022 We urge Australian governments to look again at the evidence of excess disease, disability and death and to opt for a Vaccines-Plus approach that will ultimately lead to better health, economic and social outcomes. https://ozsage.org/media_releases/open-letter-13-dec-2022/

Tesla stock marks lowest close in years as investors worry about Musk’s focus Experts blame Elon Musk’s management style at Twitter for the electric carmaker’s financial problems Tesla shares fell on Tuesday to their lowest in more than two years, marking the company’s worst day in eight months, as Elon Musk’s electric carmaker confronts a rocky financial period. The company’s stock has lost more than half its value since the start of October. Investors worry that Twitter is taking much of Musk’s time, now that he is the social network’s owner and CEO. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/27/tesla-stock-drops-lowest-close-years-elon-musk https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/NASDAQ-TSLA/

Human rights was never a major consideration for China, the same repeat pattern ongoing now: "In its single-minded pursuit of the “zero-Covid” strategy, the Chinese government was omnipresent and omnipotent, using its unlimited resources and unchecked power to control the nation. After having nearly exhausted its resources and the goodwill of the public, the government has now simply disappeared, just as many Chinese are getting very ill with the virus or dying from it."

Things just get worse and worse for this fake liar. His campaign was propped up by the Russians Russian Oligarch’s Cousin Funneled Cash to N.Y. Politician The cousin and cash handler for one of Russia’s most notorious oligarchs poured tens of thousands of dollars into electing a newly minted congressman-elect who called Ukraine’s government “a totalitarian regime.” Republican George Devolder-Santos vanquished Democrat Robert Zimmerman this month in the race for a House seat covering parts of Long Island and the New York City borough of Queens—riding a red wave that swept the Empire State this cycle, and washing away two decades of Democratic dominance in the district. He has insisted that Ukraine “welcomed the Russians into their provinces”—an apparent reference to President Vladimir Putin’s 2014 invasion to prop up rogue separatist parties—and that Ukrainians in the east “feel more Russian than Ukrainian,” even though every single Ukrainian province overwhelmingly voted for independence in 1991. https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-george-devolder-santos-got-cash-from-andrew-intrater-cousin-of-russian-oligarch-viktor-vekselberg

Last warning to stop editing and deleting my posts leaving them out of context. I repeat, NO atrocities recorded on the 22nd Feb only cease fire violations as I had already stated in my post if you had left it intact. Did those violations increase in the days running up to the illegal invasion. Yep indeed, Russia February 21: Russian President Vladimir Putin orders troops into the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk, and recognises them as independent states. His full scale invasion was on the 24th Feb. Previous to this is a different topic entirely and one I suggest has been covered multiple times. So as not to derail this thread I will not be addressing it aside to post this data on civilian deaths from official UN sources pdf download

There is only one official narrative and now part of history. Russia invaded Ukraine after building up a huge military force on its borders on the pretext it was a military drills as stated by Putin. He lied, an illegal invasion took place on a sovereign country. The only atrocities that happened since then were the first of many war crimes committed by Russia with Bucha being the first largest one uncovered. The OSCE report from that 22nd Feb does not record any atrocities, only cease fire violations from both government and occupied territories: Enough of your desperation to change history.

Not sure how many shots of vodka he had before making these bizarre predictions for 2023, but Medvedev has outdone himself with this collection of the absurd. From a twitter thread he posted that even got a response from Musk. This has got to be his version of satire but remember this is a barbarian who said referring to Ukrainians "I hate them. They are bastards and scum.” “as long as I’m alive, I will do everything to make them disappear.” Some snippets: Poland and Hungary will occupy western regions of the formerly existing Ukraine 5. The Fourth Reich will be created, encompassing the territory of Germany and its satellites, i.e., Poland, the Baltic states, Czechia, Slovakia, the Kiev Republic, and other outcasts. War will break out between France and the Fourth Reich. Europe will be divided, Poland repartitioned in the process. Civil war will break out in the US, California. and Texas becoming independent states as a result. Texas and Mexico will form an allied state. Elon Musk’ll win the presidential election in a number of states which, after the new Civil War’s end, will have been given to the GOP. Season greetings to you all, Anglo-Saxon friends, and their happily oinking piglets! https://twitter.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1607487345493934080

Tell that to Desantis and the rest of the red states where there have been more covid deaths. Who said I was afraid, that seems to be your favourite non response.........lol

An investigation is not possible without robust and in depth vaccine studies that take years and are already in process. A political witch hunt helps nobody.