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Why don't the Muslims get out and protest against thier fellow muslims who are carrying out these attacks. I am sure if they did it would go a long way to healing the divide b/w islam and the rest.

There are many muslim leaders (and people) who speak out against terrorism. The trouble is that it seems the West just doesn't (want to) report on or hear them.

The article below was written before the Paris tragedy....there are, no doubt many more recent expressions of regret and outrage.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/02/why-dont-more-moderate-muslims-denounce-extremism/

OK, now bring on the usual "apologist" slurs..

I think you need to wake up! Paying lip service to extremism after the fact or before the fact is just that.. lip service. Until muslims stand up and report radical clerics and their followers to the police it means nothing, less than nothing in fact. This will never happen.

Just to make this clear for all of you who are already mixing Islam with Islamist :

The guys who died in France would have spit on your face for such comments.

The guys who died hated the kind of people who mixed a minority of a group to make the whole group look bad whatever the group is.

Yes they hated religion, yes they hated the islamists, as much as they hated the israelian settlers, as much as they hated the catholic church and its wealth and secrets about children abuses by their priest.

Charb, Cabu, Wolinski, Tignous and all the staff at the Charlie Hebdo were mostly ...be ready guys.... communists or far left winged and nothing, not even such carnage would have changed their way of living.

Oh and another thing, just remember YOU are the f..ing foreigners here, and i can read a lot from you speaking about how the thais try daily to con farangs, to kill them or rob them, and still you re here.... just think of what may happen if one day two lunatics farang start to kill 12 people in Bangkok, how would you like them to react? understand the difference or just kick all of us from thailand?

What a crock! Please tell me any situation in which a couple of farangs would kill a bunch of thais in cold blood for being disrespectful to something they believed in?

this forum news is messed up! I mean seriously. On the same day there are two articles telling us how bad things are in Pattaya and now everything is OK by lunchtime..

Why would anyone want to go to Hua Hin instead of any other beach resort? I mean a beach resort with actual beaches and what not, clear water...

what is the term for a low class Russian? I know we have chavs in the UK and the Aussies have boguns, So what is a chav Russian when he's at home?

So no Chiang Rai line then? Instead the rail line is going through Isan. No wonder they still think the Shins rule

Uber are out of control, and need to be told to back off. Unfortunately it is heavily funded by US investment funds and is barging its way into every country regardless of local laws. Capitalism at its very worst.

I really want to Koh Lipe. Looks amazing.

Its quickly turning into a horrid island, develpment is growing unchecked, it's only saving grace is it's distance from the mainland.

This is very strange why Europe would ban shrimp imports as this is all cultured shrimp.

Farming practices that include growth promoters etc are probably and rightly frowned upon by the EU

Burma has more natural resources than Thailand and is ripe for pillaging. Who will get there first and get most is all anyone is really thinking about.

This and all the stories from past twenty years makes me wonder just how far Thailand might be ahead if politics was just a little bit cleaner. It's hard for me to comprehend the rampant and blatant theft of money taken out of the system by so called political leaders.

I'm guessing the beach users in Phuket must be way fatter and way lazier than those visiting Chonburi. No complaints of having to walk half a mile for a beer or lack of gift buying opportunities on the nice clean beach here.

Having just returned from Bangkok after and 18 month break, I was amazed to see the Thai reaction to falling consumer and buyer numbers. They have all put the prices up and made it much harder to get discounts. Must be something in Thai Business 101 about how to react to falling sales.

what a joke! It's just a blueprint for something that will probably never get built. The project shows pictures of tobacco curing barns from Phrae Province not Chiang Mai

It's all just talk, as many have said numerous times, Thailand will never be open enough to be an international player of any kind. The engrained xenophobia here against all non Thais means that companies will never be free to set up here and employ who they want, the way they want. There is not the smallest sliver of trust for non Thais, and when trying to set yourself up as an international hub of anything, there needs to be an element of open engagement and trust of foreigners that they will get back more than they will have to give away. Just look at Singapore to understand how this works.

Singapore and to a lesser extent Jakarta are wholly more suitable to this than Thailand will ever be.

I think whatever the reason behind it, this is a really good idea. The full Moon parties are a legend and form the basis of many a backpackers first experience of the crazy wide world outside of their own homeland. 98.5%* of all those that attend the parties have a great time and don't end up being raped or murdered. They pack up their packs next day and wander off elsewhere, never to return, but with a head full of memories of a crazy night on the beach under the full moon in Thailand.

The proliferation of so called "Full Moon Parties" away from Haad Rin Beach was getting ridiculous, and I'm glad they have been stopped. If younglings want to go crazy lets let them do it one day a month in a relatively safe environment, one which can be policed and secured easily enough. Haad Rin is the perfect spot for it..

*(not actual figure just something I made up)

Have the police managed to narrow the suspect down from anyone within 100 miles of Koh Tao? No they have not. They have not achieved a single thing other than to say with some certainty the two farang did not commit suicide.

These really are the Keystone cops of the modern era

Who cares if all the fat farangs think it's too hot or too rainy for a bike culture? I'm sure this is not aimed at the fat farang but at everyday Thai kids and adults. This forum is so me , me, me sometimes

I'm sorry but all you PC posters who advocate the right for a girl to wear a bikini whenever she likes and take no responsibility for her own safety are talking out of your backsides. Those western principles are not universal <deleted>! Just because it's OK back home doesn't mean it's OK everywhere.

Thailand is a relatively modest country for the most part and visitors here need to remember that.

If we put this horrific murder aside for a moment, there has been a sea change in behaviour of tourists over the past 15 years. All the guidebooks always used to stress that Thai society does not particularly like to see bare chested men and girls in bikinis but were tolerated when on the beach. Every guide stressed how walking around town dressed like youre at the beach was extremely rude to Thais.

Even I get p*ssed off at idiots, boys and girls walking around anywhere they like dressed however they like with absolutely no respect for Thai values.

I am not saying any of this is related to the murder, but the generals comments will echo with many Thais who feel that many tourists lack any respect for where they are or how to behave respectfully in public.

I dont expect many would agree but there you go I'm a bit older and a bit less tolerant than I once was.