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Isabel Vaughan-Spruce: Her legal claim against West Midlands Police specifically included "assault and battery" relating to her treatment during arrest. In August 2024, the police paid her a £13,000 settlement. You don't get a five-figure payout for "assault" if the police just politely asked you to move; the settlement was an acknowledgement of the unlawful use of physical force—including being handcuffed and subjected to an intrusive search—while she was standing still and compliant. Lucy Connolly: While there is no viral video of her arrest like there is for Vaughan-Spruce, the disparity remains: she was remanded in custody for 72 days before sentencing. Under UK prison transit protocols, any prisoner on remand is standardly handcuffed when being moved between court cells and prison vans. In the UK, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) itself issued guidance in October 2024 stating that silent prayer is "not necessarily" a crime, even within buffer zones. Vaughan-Spruce’s legal victory wasn't a "right-wing" whim; it was a settled legal claim where the state admitted it overstepped. If the police arrest someone for what they are thinking in their head, they are violating the most fundamental tenet of a free society. Even the most ardent secularists generally agree that "thoughtcrime" is a dangerous legal precedent. To address the "right-wing buddies" jab: this isn't about partisan politics; it’s about consistent application of the law. If a 72-year-old man accused of high-level corruption (Mandelson) is too "vulnerable" or "compliant" for handcuffs, then a 45-year-old woman standing silently (Vaughan-Spruce) is certainly too compliant for them. The fact that the police only seem to find their "discretion" when dealing with the powerful/high profile/friends in high places folks! Personally I think the UK should leave the ECHR, so it might be 'nonsense', but the UK government—under both Conservative and Labour leadership—remains a signatory to it

Yes, same goes for Andrew, no hand cuffs, they obviously have friends in high places. Whereas the likes of Lucy Connolly and Isabel Vaughn-Spruce did not? Although Ms. Spruce was paid Thirteen thousand pounds, in compensation, for wrongful arrest!

It was ONE question, not plural, I was just reinforcing what a hypocritical moron he is! SIMPLE!!

If someone, you, me, anyone claims something its up to them to provide evidence, otherwise its meaningless! Its not good enough to say search for it, surely you have been on this board long enough to know that?

Absolutely, from 2021 to 2023 he was the Chairman of the House Oversight Committee. He had absolute legal power to subpoena the Epstein Files, from the Biden DOJ....guess what? He issued ZERO subpoenas! I wonder why????

Well put up the link or video and I will!!

Yes, it appears most are outside of the USA, looks the UK Royal Family are in it, not just Andrew, who seems to be in it up to his neck and is in deep trouble!

The problem is some don't leave?

Specifically what did she lie about?

The Biden administration had the files for 4 years and released ZERO voluntarily, under the Trump administration over 3 million have been released!

Love the sarcasm....good one! On a serious note, if by some miracle they did or any US warship, it would be the very last thing they did!

Slowly, but surely they are, come back in 50 years?

This is all political theater, its only about scoring points in an endless partisan war. Both sides play their audience, not to resolve issues!

Corruption in these countries including Thailand is endemic, it has been for a very long time and will be extremely difficult to remove! Good news is that Thailand is less corrupt than Somalia!

Starmer has lost all credibility, he cannot stay as PM now! He said he won't resign, so he will have to be 'forced' out!

Absolutely, I almost choked on my coffee!, but it made my day! I needed a good laugh and i got one!

If the police find enough evidence, OK that's a big if, I don't think Charles will step in to save Andrew? Allegations of misconduct in public office and potential breaches of the Official Secrets Act related to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor (formerly Prince Andrew) sharing confidential UK government trade documents with Jeffrey Epstein in 2010–2011, during his role as the UK's Special Representative for International Trade and Investment. Andrew could be in big trouble!

"UK Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper expressed outrage," I don't think expressing outrage will do anything, maybe a few sanctions on Chinese goods would do more?

It's patently obvious that Trump lives in many of the posters heads here, rent free as that is all they 'talk ' about!

Oh dear.... Facts are facts and you have no rebuttal, very sad!, but not surprising!

So that's NK and Iran, now off my bucket list!!

Yes, Starmer's days are definitely numbered, many will be very glad to see him go!

Looks Starmer is toast over this, good news for a change? I wonder who will replace him?

Well this should be very interesting, assuming the right questions are asked?

Absolutely, from the OP......"while online conspiracy theorists run rampant.".....