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17 minutes ago, Sig said:

From what I frequently read in this forum re Thai men, it seems like he knows the culture well enough and was behaving along with lowbrow Thai male behaviour, so why should his penalty be so tremendously much more than it would be for a Thai? I'd be very surprised to hear if a Thai man had to pay more than 500-1,000 (maybe a little more since they both have money and inflated egos to go with it) with a deep wai and apology for such a simple issue. Is that considered an excuse? It isn't an excuse for his behaviour, but it should be reasoning to appeal to logical, even handed treatment by the authorities.
Whether Anutin's statement is mainstream or not is another story. But I have words for Anutin that would be better not to put into print.

It's because his actions also caused social unrest, hundreds of people protesting against him and what he did. Thailand doesn't need or want mobs protesting. Also, he tried to circumvent justice by using his and his wife's influence and wealth. When hundreds of Thai get upset of what you do, you can expect more than a slap on the wrist. A 1,000 baht fine for Fehr is nothing, his company, co-owed by his wife, had revenue exceeding 40,000,000 baht last year.

Anutin is just trying avoid wasting Thai administration resources and Fehr's money. Fehr's visa has already been canceled and even if the appeal is successful in a court, Anutin indicates he can deport Fehr.

Anutin is also sending a clear message to all foreigners, Thailand doesn't tolerate foreigners who assault Thai people and try to buy their way out of situations that causes social unrest. 

Lots of HISO people here seem to want to crucify him for have an urgent need to discard some bad food. You don't know the reasons why he did for what he did, and perhaps you haven't had an emergency situation like he experienced. He didn't mean to tarnish Buddah, he just used what was available to return to respectable state in society.

Ladies on Pattaya Klang, 50M East of beach Road watering everyone, today 11 April. I heard Soi 7 & 8 are also squirting everyone.

If anyone is interested in improving their diet and eating healthy food, listen to Dr. Ekberg on Youtube

I bought some gin there, and it didn't taste or smell authentic/genuine when compared to the same bottle purchased at major supermarkets. Buyer beware!

Looks like the Prosecutors in Phuket are on Swiss guy's payroll, trying to reduce the charges for his benefit. Phuket Police and the Prosecutor's office needs to be cleaned out.

The doctor is smart enough to not accept any money to settle this matter, so that the Police can't claim the matter has been settled.

I wonder what will be the swiss guy's next step? Maybe hire 3rd parties to physically teach her a lesson or make her disappear?

One major issue with Thailand bank apps and all their electronic banking is that they do not guarantee that apps are 100% hack proof. They don't protect the consumer against unauthorized transactions. Even if it is the banks fault of an unauthorized transaction, as indicated in many news articles, the bank will take months to reimburse the victims.

10 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

Get yourself a proper insulation tester and learn how to use it and you'll be good to go.

 

But one doesn't usually use a voltmeter for measuring earth leakage anyway.

 

I've already given you some solutions, if you choose to ignore them that's your problem.

 

I went through this thread again, and I don't see any recommendations from you other than to clean the rebar connection and in this last post, about getting a insulation tester. The original question has never been answered, "how to find the voltage leak source to the ground wire".

The voltage is getting into the ground wire and yes, verified by the using a volt meter and a voltage sensor and if the water valve grounding is disconnected, there is tingling feeling when touching the shower hose. This is not answering the question, what is the source!

I am eager to try most any practical solution. What do you think about pulling the neutrals out of the breaker box, and if one neutral stops the voltage into the ground, then examine/replace that circuit or suspect components attached to the circuit?

Anybody have any ideas on how to find where the voltage is going to the ground wire, even when all the breakers are turned off?

1 minute ago, Crossy said:

OK RCBO - check

 

That there's a wire running to the building steel at least means there's been an attempt to get a decent ground in there (how good does that connection look?).

 

System would be TT, no apparent link N-E at the board.

 

That your RCBO isn't tripping suggests that there isn't a dangerous leak, does that tingle go away if you link the existing ground to the water-pipe?

 

 

In the distribution room, rebar is old (30-35 yrs.) completely rusty. I don't have access to the distribution room right now, its locked. What is TT?

Tingle disappears when the ground wire is connected to the brass water valve, which controls the water coming into the condo.

Could the leak be increasing my electricity consumption/bill?

Why do you think it is capacitive coupling when all the breakers are off? I do feel a slight tingle on the shower hose. That big wire connected to the ground bar runs to the power distribution room for the entire floor, and is connected to exposed building rebar. I own the condo. I appreciate your help!

2 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

What are you using as the reference point for the 4.5V? (where is the other lead of your voltmeter?)

 

It's 99.99% chance there's no problem at all, but could you post a photo of your distribution board with the lid off (care please). We need to see what supply connection you have in order to be sure if there's an issue or not.

One lead is on the ground circuit, second is on a brass value on the water line. Voltage goes to zero, if the ground circuit is connected to the brass valve. If the ground circuit is not connected to the brass valve, with all breakers on or off, I can feel a slight tingling when touching metallic shower hose. This is in an old condo, and the building has no inherent ground wiring.

It's difficult to judge. The balcony is private property, and one can do as they please on their property. If you are looking from a public space into private property, the looker maybe considered a peeping tom, and therefore committing a crime. Looking into other people's homes isn't polite.

On 4/2/2024 at 7:21 AM, Crossy said:

 

How much is your "little bit"?

 

In a TNC-S (MEN) system such as we have in Thailand it's quite possible for there to be a small portion of the overall neutral current flowing through individual ground rods.

 

Unless the voltage in question is significant there is no issue.

 

It is possible that you are seeing a symptom of a poor joint in the neutral somewhere upstream from your location, but in order to know we need to know the magnitude of your "little bit" and what you are using as the reference point.

It is 4.5 volts in the ground line.

How do I find the source of this voltage? I turn off all the individual breakers, but it doesn't disappear until the main breaker is off.

On 4/3/2024 at 6:47 AM, bluejets said:

A megger is used on all disconnected circuits to determine their "leakage" or down to earth value.

Interpreting these values is another issue.

Your "voltage sensor" is not worth didly squat as a measurement or indication of any problem.

 

I don't want to argue with you, but I disagree with your comment. My voltage sensor has proven to very valuable and effective tool when doing any electrical work.

When a voltage sensor is touched to a ground wire, it signals a little bit of AC voltage. I turned off all the individual breakers, try isolating the bleeding circuit, and still the ground wire shows a little bit of voltage. Finally, I turned off the main breaker and now the ground wire shows no voltage.  How do I find what is leaking to the ground circuit?

Try LK Metro. Walking street is a late start, 23:00-2400; Chiyapum is also active. Soi 6, should go early, 6 or 7pm, good ones disappear quickly.

On 3/27/2024 at 9:35 AM, bamnutsak said:

 

So what does Sweden have to swallow?

50,000 tons of Thai rice.

9 hours ago, Dolf said:

Chinese do

Chinese dump (#2) on beach road in Pattaya and just walk away.

I hope they proceed with 24 hours a day 7 days a week construction. That area always has heavy traffic. There seem to be no residential buildings on that section of the road.

Lots of times, there is nobody, or only 2 or 3 people, on the job in many of Pattaya's public road construction job sites. Sometimes there is no progress for weeks.