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1 hour ago, Harsh Jones said:

He was being sarcastic. 

so was I...

1 hour ago, Harsh Jones said:

Umm the topic at hand is about a young person. And that is what I was talking about. And why I prefixed my comment with "young".

 

You are talking nonsense. The largest demographic of accidental falls is young ppl. Then there's the group of 30-50+ and in that group, suicide and murder is always suspected more than it is for the young ppl. 

You appear to have absolutely np knowledge of this topic and I was talking about safety measures for balconies - which you replied to with a nonsensical reply.

44 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Railings in the US are too high

Too high for what?

A profoundly illogical conclusion - which sums up a lot of posting on this thread.

You don't even mention railing height.

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

College students, alcohol & balconies are not a good mix.

So all the people who fall from balconies in Thailand are college students? If you could predict that then it would be simple to put in place measures to prevent it.

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

"An estimated 86,500 (95% confidence interval [CI], 68,400-104,600) balcony fall-related injuries were treated in US hospital EDs from 1990 through 2006"

So what do you conclude from that?

42 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps the problem isn't balcony heights in LOS, but the drunken yobs that have no common sense.

If they banned those that are likely to get drunk and fall off buildings from entry, it would make for a better experience in LOS, IMO.

like most of your posts - just rubbish - you have no idea of the basics of health and safety.

So you are saying in countries where people don't fall off balconies so often there are less "drunken yobs"?

In fact these "drunken yobs" come from other countries too.

I'm sure the relatives of these people will be greatly relived to know that you classify them as "drunken yobs"

47 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I stayed in many places over decades, visited many tourist attractions, and in general your contention is not correct, IMO.

Indeed, some were deficient, but not the majority.

 

I did not stay in places over 1,000 baht normally.

give examples.

I can

2 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

what young ppl get up to on balconies

Most of those who fall are older people.

I think you are not up to speed on any aspect of this topic 

2 hours ago, Harsh Jones said:

This is a myth. There's no data to back it up. 

Fact is the regs in Thailand specify 90 whereas in the West 1.1 to 1 5 what is your myth?

Have you measured your Thai balcony?

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

Last 2 years 

 

I should add 3 years ago I also did not report and left Thailand at the last month of my extension expiry. When i returned and did new extension no one noticed I did not report. 

 

so what's the process - is this on Samui?

You go in after a year to exrtend your visa (O or B?) and then they say "OK give us 4000 baht"?

On 7/17/2023 at 11:07 AM, Celsius said:

Who does 90 day reports?

 

Pay a fine once a year and that is it.

Interesting, so that is what you do? You report once a year and pay  a fine? (2000/4000 baht) - how often have you done that?

On 7/14/2023 at 2:44 AM, phetphet said:

Arrived early today to do my 90 day report. Thought to myself, “Great. Nice and quiet. Shouldn’t take long. 8:30, doors open. Woman tells me I need to go downstairs at get a queue number. 
Only two windows downstairs, for checking documents. So now stuck in a queue waiting for all the people in front to have their documents checked before I can even get a queue number.

 

Stupid idea.

You often find changes like this accompany a new manager of some sort, who has decided to show everybody how useful it is by changing things around......... of course in Thai office culture no one can tell him/her that it is a stupid mistake. It will have to run until he has "an even better idea!"

On 7/16/2023 at 3:35 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Needs to be zero. About time for those "world leaders" to put up or shut up. So far they have achieved zilch, IMO.

Not just Brazil- apparently huge areas of Africa and SEA being deforested.

needs to be less than zero - full regrowth can take centuries.

24 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

There is nothing ignorant about my comment.

 

 

how would you know?

22 minutes ago, connda said:

True that, as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy creates a vacuum which allows for the tyranny of a prince in an oligarchy (and the tyranny of other forms of Totalitarianism - even those which govern with a iron-fist or a 'boot stamping on a human face - forever...... but yet call themselves 'democracies.').  DINOs.  Democracies In Name Only.  A pig wearing lipstick is still a pig.

They occur due to the apathy of citizens.

It's pretty clear on this and other threads that many of the expats in Thailand have no idea what a democracy is or how it functions. Basically they resort to cliche and cynicism to hide their own ignorance.

17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

It's sad that people lie about communism because they're mad at the fact that it doesn't work.

Ignorant comments like that cloud the argumenty in hand - it shows that people really don't understand politics, let alone the politics of Thailand.

11 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Whenever someone says "the will of the people" I am immediately uneasy.  It has shades of communism.  "Are you questioning the will of the people comrade?"

 

Reform is likely to be much more successful and beneficial than a revolution.  Revolutions have a habit of quickly being taken over and turning into dictatorships.

 

We only need to look at the recent democratic movement which was quickly co-opted and lost all direction.

It is sad that people don't understand the word "communism" - and like woke, PC and other words it is used in a perverted form as a blanket "bete noire" by the uninformed.

"The tyranny of a prince in an oligarchy is not so dangerous to the public welfare as the apathy of a citizen in a democracy." Montesquieu.

It seems the military have round down the general Thai populace into a state of apathy - they have a chance to change things but they are letting the military-backed bureaucracy grind them down. there seems to be no "will of the people"
 

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

At least I have an opinion on what WOULD work ( hydrogen ), unlike the empty chorus of voices crying that "we must do something" without ever saying what we should do.

It's IMO ludicrous to even suggest that we should all buy expensive electric cars with their polluting rare earth metals and exploited miners in Africa, and limited life span batteries that no one has a clue how to recycle, when most of the vehicles on the planet will continue to use oil for the foreseeable future.

 

All I see are plenty of so called world leaders polluting the atmosphere flying to "conferences" to talk a load of hot air, without coming up with anything that is affordable, achievable and acceptable to most people.

QED - you just don't get the big picture. You are just fixating on one aspect and for some unknown reason you think you are the only one who knows about hydrogen - we ALL know about it and how it can be fitted into the scheme of things and how it is already being used and the future possibilities - you however seem incapable of seeing the whole picture.

On 5/28/2023 at 7:17 AM, KhunLA said:

Literally ... (sh!t of bird) bird sh!t

... dirty, unkept, skint 

Apprarently not, it refers to a type of small Farang the fruit. Something to do with the tone.

Haven't been there for a while - it was my favourite "Pattaya" beach.

I don't remember paying, though.

12 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Westerners are also more likely to be top-heavy, compared to Thai people.

In that their CoG cold be higher from the floor

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

There is a better, transition to hydrogen, the real clean alternative to oil for machinery motivation.

If you think it's down to what private vehicle we drive then you have a totally blinkered view of the situation.

23 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Westerners are also more likely to be top-heavy, compared to Thai people.

When you fixate on gaining upper-body mass, as many do, then low balconies become more risky.

 

"According to the International Residential Code, balconies in commercial buildings should have a height of 42 inches before being capped off with a sturdy handrail."

 

"As for the residential buildings, they specified the railing height as 36 inches from the deck level. Ideally, railing slats should have 4 inches or less gap between them to prevent kids and pets from slipping between them." (codes.iccsafe.org)

 

But what about Thailand?

"Balconies must have railings that are at least 90 centimeters (35 inches) high, and that are spaced no more than 10 centimeters (4 inches) apart." (Quora)

 

I recall that in Chiang Mai, the balconies that I have stood upon seemed to be around one meter off the deck of the balcony.

 

However, I think that is too low for the sake of safety, drunk or otherwise.

 

I would definitely like to see a minimum height of 42 inches.

 

If I were building or renovating a condo with a balcony above the first floor, then I would go for 1.5 meters with a wide wooden railing at the top.

 

For sure, if one is 180 centimeters in height, and muscular, then a one-meter balcony railing is too low!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the UK my apartment has a balcony rail that is 115 cm. On my house in Chonburi there is a roof patio -  the balustrade there is about 60 cm - it's convenient to sit on!!! My rental on SAmui had one small balcony/shelf - that was about 90cm.

But

the problem with balconies is the human centre of gravity - this varies very little - it is about one inch below the navel - regardless of the person's total height. THis is usually under halfway up the body which means once tilted over the balcony rail the prime force is to topple over the top.

THe floor of the balcony is also important so that people don't slip. Either their feet from under them when leaning back or if they slide forward onto the rail.

Whatever - the THai specifications are definitely too low even for relatively short people

So still galloping ahead then...