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THe problem is that a layperson is not really in a situation to judge mediical treatment. - the faults are really in the system rather than individual cases. You don't need any medical knowledge to see that Thai healthcare is a system with many faults and pitfalls. A major problem is that people are "bedazzled" by the appearance on many of the private hospitals - because they see Corbusier style furniture , fish tanks and lots of medical equipent the think hte place must be good - in the end it relies on the people employed there.

If it helps the workers, that's great, however one just feels it will only help those with money who run it.

So how do you explain how social geography is relevant to my comment? Orare you about to make a racist generalusation that u suits Thai people?

So who are we supposed to believe?

You seem to lack a basic understanding of corruption in Thailand. ALL countries have corruption in one form or another but Thailand is almost unique in the way that corruption from top to bottom permeates every aspect of daily life. 60 % of the population surveyed actually approve of corruption as they consider it oil's the wheels of government and business. Many people don't even regard it as corruption as its roots are so embedded deep in Thai history and culture. Many foreigners living in Thailand seem totally oblivious of the corruption that daily occurs around them. It's worth considering if this sort of thing could happen in the same way in your home country. It seems the officer was so confident his operation was acceptable that money was just keft lying around in his office .... at least he knew his colleagues were trustworthy enough not to steal it ....

He should take a leaf out of Father Ted's book .... "The money was just resting in my office..."

This incident will expose two things The inadequacies of the Thai justice system And secondly the status and attitudes of foreigners running businesses in Thailand.

That is a very good question....of it was 1923 ....the science of this has been explained ad finitum.... yet like a flat earther people chose to ignore it.

Australia has the highest carbon footprint oer capita in the world. The reason people don't get this is because the population per km2 is very small, (22 million)but per cspita they are real charcoal burners

now you aren't even discussing the topic. My arguments are objective yours aren't so actually don't even qualify as an argument. you are "Dunning Krugering" the discussion. you don't even understand that personal experience is anecdotal

Absolutely.

100% incorrect - that kind of think is why Thailand has such a high death rate - usually from people who don't realise what terrible drivers they are themselves.

"Assume" - I agree, you can't assume in a situation like this - you need proof and evidence - if it was LAW - then a logical ASSUMPTION would be that he was wearing one - (you need to appreciate the limitations of protection offered by a helmet - especially the ones in Thailand). However the only witness will be an untrained impoverished police officer who wasn't at the scene when it happene and wandered around making assumptions of his own. Unfortunately the family have now got to prove to the insurance company he was wearing a helmet - as there is no satisfactory police report, this will be nigh-on impossible one way or the other but as it is, the insurance company will keep their money....and possibly a local bobby might get a reward. If however the guy WASN"t wearing a crash helmet it goes to show that the most stupid drivers in Thailand are the foreigners - they have laws at home and driver education and enforcement that makes them dress safely - yet these "superb" drivers after a couple of days in Thailand revert to the stupidity that they falsely accuse Thai people of.

You need to read both the Thai road rules and then read the road...... you are in the wrong! "main road" - really!?? that is of course a British definition. It is a common symptom of foreign drivers in Thailand that especially from countries with low fatality rates, that they fail to realise wht bad drivers they themselves are and how their home road safety sytem protects then=m from their own stupidity. - take for instance the riding of motorcycles wiithout crash helmets or protective clothing - as soon as the law turns its back, the stupidity returns.

You don't even understand why that is evidence of the dreadful first responder situation in Thailand.

from the word go your argument is valueless - You have no idea what rubbish that is - you are citing anecdotal evidence which is of little or no value whatsoever - I doubt by your reply you aren't in any way qualified to pass an opinion on medical matters and you seem to know nothing about how the Thai healthcare system works or the emergency services which are crucial to road victim survival - e.g the "golden hour".

Both are irrelevant to me argument...and are you saying the police didn't atend this crash (it's not an accident)

You are stating the obvious but you seem to have forgotten the context. this is one of the reasons why e cannot say for sure what happened

You are making baseless assumptions - Thailand has dreadful hospitals and care is dependant on ability to pay. Ine of the most serious factors in RTIs is that Thailand has no proper emergency services, no trained first responders and no uniform, centralised ambulance services.

So this is why the death rate in Thailand is so high. WHERE IS THE CRASH REPORT? he truth is that the Thai police are simply not sufficiently trainined in crash and road safety protocol. It is unlikely, in fact almost certain that the accident was not properly calibrated and analysed by the police so things like crash helmet, speed etc. will never be known within normal acceptable standards of proof. failure to analyse and calibrate accidents means that Thailand has no knowledge of what is going on and cannot introduce effective road safety measures

I've been driving extensively for over 20 years in Thailand and I can say that Thai road users DO care a lot about road safety. You also make a classic foreign driver's mistake. Thailand has a priority from the left rule ...... they pull out because they can. This is engrained in Thai driving, you need to learn and adapt. Years ago the priority from the right rule in France caused British driver's to moan about it in France for the same reasons. When you drive in a foreign country you need to learn to drive to their highway codes and not expect people to drive like they do back home. Thai drivers are familiar with driving in Thailand you only have a short period of experience and you need to anal,yse more what is going on around you. If you find youself getting angry with other road users in Thailand the fault is most likely with you.

. Helmet wearing varies from region to region in Thailand You are making a connection that is on association rather than causation . It's like you're looking out of your window and making generalisations on personal/anecdotal evidence. The key factor is enforcement - in Thailand making something "illegal" doesn't mean you can't get away with it....you can often pay the police and it "goes away" you may be the kind of person who does stupid things until someone fines you but most people act on a safety factor because they understand that it makes sense. Simply winding up the fines on their own achieves nothing significant. They need to be part of a "holistic" road safety policy that at present the Thai authorities don't have.

That's only one statististic. Thailand has the same number of crashes as the UK. Thailand has slightly less fatalities in 4 wheeled vehicles than the uSA. So you need to analyse the statistics to work out why the actual death rate is so high.

The "deterrent " argument is rather ŵeak one. You need to consider how the law works in Thailand and not the US, which ƁTW, has a really bad road safety record for a developed cou try.

Laos is as bad and going to get worse...check this year's figures for Luang Prabang