kwilco

You said "larger hospitals are excellent" this is not true. Now you are talking about government hospitals. Can you tell me what criteria you are using to suggest "excellent"?

Not true! - I worked in major Thai hospitals - they are cynical and unethical - many patients are conned into believing they've had the best treatment -when often it's not appropriate or just the most profitable

yet more bizarre reporting on this poor man "rare mosquito bite" - what kind of reporting is that? Do the hopital not know or has he got hemorrhagic Dengue which is well documented in Thailand. Dengue can be fatal but so can Thai healthcare

Exactly the WRONG answer! - THe 5 pillars are from scientific approach to road safety - "common sense" is deliberately not there Again going back to archaic views and blame game - in reality common sense is irrelevant and subjective - your "common sense" is not the same as another's - thinking it is on a road is dangerous.

Playing the blame game when it comes to road safety is counterproductive and hinders efforts to improve road safety outcomes. Instead of focusing on assigning blame, a more constructive approach is to identify underlying causes and develop targeted interventions to prevent or reduce future accidents. Blaming is harmful Blaming individuals or groups for road accidents can lead to a variety of negative consequences: A limited focus on prevention: When you focus ion assigning blame, the attention shifts away from identifying root causes, you miss the real problems and fail to implement appropriate preventive measures. Ait engenders a culture of fear and defensiveness: Blaming creates a climate of fear and suspicion, discouraging open communication and collaboration not only among road users, but also law enforcement, and policymakers Reduction in reporting of accidents: When drivers fear being blamed for accidents, they may be less likely to report them, making it difficult to identify patterns and implement effective safety measures, this is a crucial part of understanding road safety. Countries with th lowest fatality rates have already adopted blame-free approach to road safety This has proved to be a more effective approach to road safety emphasizing a blame-free culture that focuses on prevention and improvement. It involves: Investigating accidents: Thorough investigations should focus on understanding the factors that contributed to the accident, without assigning blame to individuals. Try and get hold of a proper crash report in Thailand. Underlying causes: Accident investigations should go beyond individual actions to identify systemic issues, such as road design, infrastructure, driver behaviour, and vehicle safety features. They should certainly not be left in the hands of local police or casual observers. Implementing preventive measures: Based on the identified causes, targeted interventions should be implemented to address the underlying issues and reduce the likelihood of future accidents. We already established the poor design of this junction. Collaborative efforts: It’s not just a matter for local police and media - Road safety stakeholders, including government agencies, law enforcement, road designers, vehicle manufacturers, and the public (esp. ALL road users), should work together to develop and implement preventive measures. Examples of blame-free approaches Several countries and organizations have implemented blame-free approaches to road safety with positive outcomes: Sweden's Vision Zero: Sweden's ambitious goal of zero road deaths by 2030 emphasizes a blame-free culture, focusing on identifying and addressing underlying causes through engineering, education, and enforcement. The Dutch "Safety Net" program: The Dutch "Safety Net" program provides financial compensation to accident victims, regardless of fault, encouraging reporting of accidents and promoting a blame-free culture. The "Just Culture" approach: The "Just Culture" approach emphasizes learning from safety incidents without assigning blame, promoting a culture of transparency and accountability. Un;like the racists POV, culture is NOT STATIC and grows and changes, but one needs to understand it’s roots – unlike the racist concept it is not inherently a static factor By embracing a blame-free approach to road safety, we can shift the focus from assigning blame to identifying and addressing the underlying causes of accidents, ultimately reducing road fatalities and injuries.

" But it is cultural - that is the word racists use to cover up that they are racists. Like "It's a religion so that's not racist" ..and you're still obsessively playing the blame game.

read my posts. It's probably why you have such a negative view of driving in Thailand.

Ok - if you keep "having to" shout at taxi drivers - what do you conclude from that?

When it comes to road safety, you aren't even on page one - you are a road user like everyone else - where you sit has no bearing on the concept of understanding road safety - every comment you make shows you are still clinging to archaic dysfunctional perceptions that cloud your understanding. There is no such thing as a racially based tendency for any people or nationality to drive any worse or less skilfully than any others – and that includes Western expats. Idiot drivers form the same proportion of almost all societies regardless of race creed or colour. – it’s human nature that dictates this and it is what a society does do to contain those “idiots” that differs from country to country.

Ypou clearly heven't read my post that says that idiots are worldwide.

Yes

so - when you find yourself "shouting" (literally or otherwise) at other drivers you probably need to review your own driving. Again people can't let go of the nebulous concept of "bad driving" and the blame gain which means you don't even begin to grasp the concept of road safety. BYW - \i have far more driving experience than you in Thailand but also throughout the world - however, as I've said before I don't rely on anecdotal evidence I rely on my analytical and critical skills as well as my training.

how silly can you get? Clearly you don't want citations and as you admit know nothing yet you try to object - and yes, you are sealioning. It's simple - read my posts, if you don't don't agree say why....

You are now sealioning - the hallmark of someone without an argument. If you want a "citation" then you should fist check for yourself or put forward and alternative argument - which you can't do. it would seem. Would you =care to "cite" some of your own statements? Do I need to tell you what anecdotal evidence is?

If you find yourself shouting at other drivers especially in a foreign country, is it not most likely that you need to review your driving skills Most expat drivers fail to learn the local driving customs. Every country has its own set of driving customs, so it's important to learn and follow them when you are driving in a foreign country. Unfortunately rather than learn they tend to make up and cling to clichés that reinforce their own feelings of superiority. Foreigners who drive in Thailand frequently turn on the vitriol when it comes to talking about their fellow roads users...automatically excluding themselves from the equation and concomitantly implying that their driving skills are far superior to those of all Thai people. One thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status, or ethnic background, is that, deep down inside, they all believe that they are above-average drivers. There is a consistent view that OTHERS drive in a more risky manner than individuals themselves do. If you think this, you are probably wrong

Such a shallow thing to say – firstly there’s no such thing as an accident. ..and you are using a valueless sample criteria You comment has no statistical significance – “experience” is not a reliable predictor of crashes. – there are many other causes of apart from your driving. You are focusing on the past and not the future and your statement in no way can predict that you’ll continue to avoid accidents in the future – you can’t predict or account for changes in both Thai road safety and yourself. Teir is a myth that people are responsible for their “accident-free” driving. Essentially you are just being self-congratulatory and dangerously ignoring the overall risks of driving. You don’t even know how you would react in a sudden critical situation. Instead of focusing on the past or personal anecdotes, it's far more constructive talk about scientifically proven about safe driving practices, risk awareness, and proactive measures to minimize the likelihood of accidents. By focusing on current and FUTURE safety, you create a more responsible and accident-free driving environment for everyone

wherever I drive in the world I use all my mirrors etcto make certain where vehicles are on any side of me - not doing that is a flaw in someone's driving.

You are engaging in the blame game - so you have completely failed even to get the basics of road safety. Human error is a constant worldwide - once you understand that and stop the blame game then things can be done to rectify it. Playing the blame game was proves rubbish about 50 years ago - countries that don't doit have much lower death rates.

This is true if you drove in France in the 1960s and 70s you would apreciate the situation. In Thailand the base rule is that there is priority from the left. This again like being in a boat is engrained in Thai driving culture. most Westerners know nothing about rules of the road even in their own country they just learn by rote for their test and that's it - they don't understand that that is the "right" way and everyone else isn't the "wrong" way - they need to understand and adapt to driving in a foreign country. Rather than a home test colonialism they should show some understanding of what is going on instead of resorting to racist cliches.

You mean like you do?

You're beginning to understand! If you realise this then driving in Thailand will make sense - they know it but you don't

You are trying to justify victim blaming - this is sad becasue it underlines an unacceptable and blinkered set of values.

how many other offences weren't reported?

Victim blame - QED

I’m very dismayed to see so many comments that are engaging in victim blame – what sort of people post this stuff? Victim blaming in any situation is harmful and wrong, but it is especially damaging in the context of holiday rape cases. Victim blaming in holiday rape cases is especially harmful because it sends a message that women should not be able to enjoy their holidays without fear of violence. It also reinforces the idea that women are responsible for the safety of men’s behaviour, which is simply unfair and untrue. These kind of remarks reinforce harmful stereotypes about victim behaviour. Blaming victims for their assaults reinforces the idea that women are responsible for preventing their own rapes. This can be especially harmful for women who are traveling or living abroad, as they may be more likely to be blamed for their assaults. It also raises the question of why people engage in these statements. “There but for the grace of God….”???? All this perpetuates the cycle of violence. When we blame victims, we send a message that rape is acceptable or inevitable under certain circumstances, They are normalising a culture of violence to women making it more likely that future assaults will occur. These people are attempting to shift focus away from the perpetrator's actions; we are essentially saying that the rapist's actions were not entirely their faut, or that they were in some way justified or we might have succumbed to the same urge. It creates a culture of impunity for rapists. This “blame game” shames and silences victims - When victims are blamed for their assaults, they may feel too ashamed and afraid to come forward. This can prevent them from seeking help and support, and it can also make it more dificult for them to heal from their trauma. We can see from this report that the woman was reluctant to come forward – “the survivor broke her silence, urging caution to lone female travellers.” [Thaiger article]. This is a familiar pattern from previous incidents in Thailand when even the PM got involved with inappropriate comments. In Thailand it also undermines the already fragile justice system. (as seen with the Prayuth comments) When blame is apportioned to victims of assault , it can make it more difficult for them to get justice in the courts. This then strengthens the culture of impunity for rapists, which can only exacerbate the problem of sexual violence in the Kingdom.