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Make no mistake whether visa, residency retiree, work permit....whatever, expats are immigrants

Anyone living and working here is to some extent deporting this militaristic regime.... they are ci doing all its actions .... unless there something about it. Anyone living and working here is to some extent deporting this militaristic regime.... they are ci doing all its actions .... unless there something about it.

So if I see an old lady being attacked in the street, I gnome it on the basis it is Thailand and I'm not Thai. or how about these people formulate foreign policy and that includes my home country. So I'm not allowed to object to thus unless I'm in my home country. What about Thailand's attitude to political prisoners....just turn a blind eye and pull up my speedos shuffle my things and sip my Chang....I'm alright Jack.... or too timid to act?

Pedro you are so silly....dogs breed rapidly and if the food available is good they breed even more rapidly. This is not debatable...it is proven. Once a dog population is small then it can be managed....there is no culling in the UK, several dogs a few hundred are put down because of age or health....this is not culling. The numbers of dogs in Thailand cannot be controlled with "regular patrols" How do you propose to cull them?

Let's be clear scout 2 things... 1 - Culling dogs doesn't work. 2 - SDF reduced the stray dog population in Phuket from 80,000 to 6000.

Itsquite clear you haven't got the faintess grasp of the issues. You don't even know of the Bangkok cull.

Where will you burn 780,000 dog carcasses over 10 years. How will you manage the army in the streets of BKK firing live ammo and howe do you deal with the dogs that escape. Then how will you prevent other dogs from taking the place of the ones you've shot?

You don't seem to be able to read mark, lean and inwardly digest. The last cull in BK ended in failure for precisely the reasons you have mooted. I know it's difficult to come to terms with the evidence when it makes you look foolish - it's called cognitive dissonance, but your replies are just making it look as if you are incapable of understanding anything.

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” — Mahatma Gandhi Some facts and figures about roaming dogs in Thailand CNVR - Capture, Neuter, Vaccinate, Release Places where Soi Dog is working – Phuket, Phang Nga, Samui and Bangkok – owners can have their pets vaccinated and sterilized. Free. The schedules for Soi Dog mobile clinics are constantly updated on their Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/SoiDogInThai/) SDF is currently running (Covid permitting) a campaign to do this is BKK SDF have been quite successful in Phuket already - In Phuket over 15 years the population has dropped from 80,000 to about 6000. The problem is that many people are not aware of this either due to the gradual change or the fact they weren’t there 15 years ago. Phuket is the only province in Thailand that is, according to the government, rabies-free. But there is no guarantee it will stay that way. A very important factor in SDF’s success is that Phuket is an island and it should relatively easy to control animals coming onto the island. The main threat is “pats” brought from the mainland for sale in the markets Just pre-Covid, SDF CNVR’d 4000 dogs on Samui, KPG and Kog Tao In BKK they have a 7 to 10 year, Bt550-million project to control the ENTIRE dog population. It will see an increasing number of mobile surgical teams recruited to target the estimated 640,000 stray dogs that roam the streets in Bangkok. Dogs are not wild animals they are bred by humans and our ecology is linked together, in order to deal with them, we not only have to deal with the dogs but also our own behavoiur. Sterilized and spayed dogs also tend to be less aggressive. …and they don’t come into season. If about 80% are sterilized and 70% are vaccinated that is usually sufficient to do the job. It took the USA nearly a century and a half to get it’s dog population under control – it is only in the past 10 years that demand has outstripped supply. The last cull in BKK killed 200 dogs per day - at that rate it would take nearly 10 years to kill the current population - but as bitches can have up to 3 litters per year - you can see that the rate of replacement would just about nullify any extermination. Replacing the population – Dogs can breed after 6 months – one single bitch can produce 6 to 12 pups in a litter 3 times a year. After six months those pups will be producing litters of their own. A bitch will live from 3 to 5 years. After 5 years at a rate of 7 bitches per annum it could have up to 17,000 descendants all happily reproducing on top of that I don’t think people consider the logistics of a cull either – what do you do with ¾ of a million carcasses, what to do with the ones that escape. How do you kill them – you can’t use poison because of the danger to other species, the environment and humans – so you have to shoot them. How do you deal with teams of armed hunters running around BKK. How do you dispose of the bodies? In themselves a massive health hazard. Your house pet is no different from the stray dogs it still needs vaccinations and jabs against rabies and doggies’ diseases and should be neutered - no matter how hard you try over the period of its life it will interact with both stray and “owned” dogs on the island and precautions need to be taken.

Did you not read the part where it says they are replaced? in fact killing dogs causes them to be replaced with dogs from outside th area - these dogs benefit from the new, (almost) empty environment and are often stronger, but they bring with them zoonotic diseases notable rabies. So killing the dogs does not affect the population except for a very short period but increase the spread of diseases.

I think you are missing. point here. The practice of eating dogs is not based on the need for food in most countries....it is believed to enhance health. However the dogs unlike most domesticated food animals are not bred, kept or killed humanely or even hygienically. Over the centuries she dogs have beebread for food but eating of Soi Dogs is not part of that practice.

How culling doesn't work Dogs in Thailand-2.ppsx

Culling NEVER works

100% culling dogs doesn't work this has been shown worldwide. Culling can only work on selected species in confined small areas....e g an island. Digs rely on food and shelter to thrive. Culling is NEVER 100% effective and birches with food and shelter can have 3 to 4 litters per year the population bounces back .. even more quickly as dogs from spinning areas quickly move back in. Culling in effect doesn't reduce the population it replaces it with healthier animals....it also aids rhe spread of rabies as dogs move about and interact of territories .

Sterilised dogs can't reproduce and vaccinated can't spread diseases like rabies. You have totally got the wrong end of the stick!!! CNVR is the ONLY way to tackle the dog problem. Despite the SDF 's efforts people keep feeding dogs and local authorities leave garbage uncollected...this feeds the dogs and allows them to breed. SDF targets certain areas....take a look at Phuket compared to other areas of Thailand.. Bangkok has a huge problem and SDF almost alone are addressing it.

Before Covid, tourism in Thailand accounted for 40 million visitors.... half of them from China. So even 19 million represents a drastic drop in numbers. Up yo half those in the industry will still be out of business.

Thai Airways sold off a lot of their fleet in the last 4 years

It is indicative of the advanced age of the majority of members on this site that there is a large number who are locked back in the 1990s and still MMCC deniers. The fact that even those who put forward those denials in the 19990s have changed their mind will not alter their views. However those absurdly outdated views still seem to be those of many of the Thai authorities and this means any future plans they make regarding tourism won't include the results of MMCC thus leaving the country vulnerable and exposed to changes in air travel. This cannot bode well for Thailand

The fact that this topiIc exists at all shows how archaic attitudes to women are both in Thailand and on ASEAN NOW

Im afraid that just because you see a new hospital, it doesn't follow that hospitals in Laos are changing. Luang Prabang and Vientiane are quite dissimilar to the rest of the country. They cater for the ruling elite, businesses and foreigners but how good they actually are and what the cost is requires some serious, qualified research. However just a quick visit to any regional hospital....e g. Laos second city Savanakhet will prove an eye-opener even to the most casual visitor. Anyone who can tries to make it over rhe River into Thailand. ...and Thailands healthcare leaves a lot to be desired but its still preferable to Laos.

If you can't see it, you probably never will...sad but true.

As I said the evidence is as clear as the nose on your face....you just don't want to see it. It your problem, not mine.

QED

Not my point...my point is the profound lack of understanding of most expats in the face of clear evidence.

That is true....but you failed to grasp that? You just can't come up with and argument.