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So you have no response to the point I'm making? Expressing condolences after terrorist attacks is not the same as councillors and politicians campaigning. But you know this, hence you have no response.

Why don't Muslim councillors and politicians openly campaign on eradicating Islamists and hate preaching in the UK? That would be more visible to the UK public, and might convince the public that ordinary Muslims are serious about dealing with these problems. They won't campaign on these things though for fear of losing Muslim voters, and possibly fear of losing their lives. What you provided doesn't reach the masses.

In the UK local elections we had Muslim councillors campaigning (and some winning) on a ticket of supporting Palestine. I don't recall any Muslim councillors campaigning to rid UK towns and cities of Islamic radicalisation, Islamic violence and hate preaching Imams. I think if more of them did that it could sway public opinion. Why don't they do that? I think I know why.

While it does seem highly unlikely white shirt could have walked away from this, I suppose it is possible. If he did then he should get himself checked out for bleeding on the brain, which can escalate if not detected early. If they did walk away from it, it might explain why nobody knows who or where they are. How can nobody know where they are if an ambulance took them away? Surely witnesses on the scene would have seen an ambulance take them away if it happened. If they recovered and slinked off into the sunset it would explain a few things.

Yes it does. When the UK was at war with Argentina, nobody said the Tories are at war with Argentina. Same logic. Hamas governs Palestine.

While not defending the despicable violence from the Thai guards, I saw things a bit differently in the videos. The white shirt guy was in the face of the Thai guard, leaning on him etc., and just before it kicked off properly, the white shirt guy raised an elbow and pulled his other fist in a fighting stance. And as for grey shirt guy, he was clearly legless already as he was staggering around the bar. Grey shirt guy, rather than try to separate his mate and the guards he goes in throwing punches. He was so drunk he was quickly overwhelmed by the Thais. I hate it when I see my fellow Brits and other foreigners behaving this way, refusing to pay bar bills (even if inflated) and getting lairy after a few drinks. They probably deserved a bit of a slap to teach them how to behave better, but not the head kicking. That final kick was intended to kill IMO.

Thanks for the information, but it doesn't change the fact that they have recognised the Hamas led Palestine as a state. I expected this of the woke government in Ireland, but not Norway.

They have recognised Palestine as a state, a state governed by Hamas. No links required.

Stop swerving. The story is about Ireland, Spain and Norway recognising Palestine as a nation, a nation which is ruled by Hamas. That's why Hamas are so happy about this development. If they said they will recognise the state of Palestine when Hamas step down / are defeated, then you might have a point. But they didn't, therefore they effectively legitimised the Hamas government.

Not according to the governments of Ireland, Spain and Norway. They have legitimised (in their tiny minds) a Palestine state headed by Hamas. That's what the story is about.

Ireland, Spain and Norway are recognising a Palestinian state headed by Hamas. This means that the Oct 7th atrocities were carried out by the State of Palestine, in the eyes of the Irish, Spanish and Norwegian governments. Bunch of leftie idiots who act without engaging their brains, just like Queers for Palestine.

Hamas are Palestinians. It's perfectly reasonable to call the Oct 7th attackers Palestinians. Ireland, Spain and Norway clearly agree, given that they have recognised Palestine as a state while Hamas are in charge.

You should read the explanations about Clear Air Turbulence on these threads. Impossible to predict/see, so there is no warning. I don't know about your assumption that 50% keep their belts off while seated, but I suspect that will drop to about 10% after this incident.

Every 2-3 hours, that's fine. I was talking about people who spend almost the entire flight wandering around, getting in the way, and sticking their backside in seated people's faces. Wait, you know seven people who have died from stokes and DVTs because of long haul flights, some after months in a coma? How is it possible that you know so many people who died this way?

What's uncomfortable about a piece of fabric laying across your lap? Sounds like that story, The Princess and the Pea

You say '"strapped to a chair" like it's some form of torture. You just keep the belt loosely fastened while seated. You don't even notice the belt. And as for spending most of the flight standing or wandering around the cabin, that's up to you. You want to increase the risk of being flung to the ceiling, go for it. Personally I find those people a bit annoying on flights.

Isn't it all about reducing the odds though? If you keep your belt on for a 13 hour flight, apart from say 25 minutes of toilet breaks etc, your odds are much better than the other bloke who keeps his belt off for the entire flight.

You'd have thought for an incident on this scale the Bangkok hospitals would waive their usual fees and pass on only the costs. The hospital staff have been rightly praised for dealing with the injured passengers so well. Would be a PR nightmare if subsequently there's a high profile battle for payment of extortionate bills.

Exactly my thoughts and understanding of events. BBC radio just reported that 20 passengers are in intensive care. Not heard this anywhere else though, so hopefully it's not the case. Although I guess some would be in ICU as a precaution and not necessarily in grave danger. That said, a lot of people were slammed head first into the ceiling or overhead instruments. Awful.

Any relatively wealthy country (e.g. Taiwan) will have women from the nearest poorest countries working in these bars. The big hubs in Asia have Thai and PI ladies. In Europe the working girls are mostly from Eastern Europe, e.g. Bulgaria, Latvia. It's just the way it is. The girls need the money, the men want s3x. I don't think the girls are concerned about how it embarrasses Dave from Dartford.

When somebody dies you can't immediately access their funds and/or assets. It can take months or years for all the probate stuff to be sorted out. GFM is a perfectly sensible way to raise funds from those who want to donate, rather than cause added stress to his closest friends and family who may be stretched for money.

Really? In that case somebody must've been using your username to post pro-Iranian regime comments on this topic. Never leave your computer unlocked...

You're still not getting it. The Iranian people hate the regime and it's 'morals'!! You're giving support to a regime that rules it's people with terror!! Do you have no sympathy for the Iranian people?

Doesn't sound like you read the story properly. It didn't happen in the 7-11. The victim went to the 7-11 after the incident for help. And although Thailand has a reputation for 8 on 1 fights, it's just a 'numbers needed to win' game everywhere you go. If you were mouthy to a group of Brits in England at 4am you would probably be attacked by 1 of them, or 2 of them if you were putting up a good fight. Maybe 3 of them for good measure. Thai men are generally much smaller so they attack in larger packs to ensure the win. As you can see in the video, the part in the back alley, the 3 or 4 Thais struggled to overwhelm the bigger bearded foreigner. Who knows what the Brit did leading up to the stabbing because it's certainly not clear in the videos. Maybe he was an innocent bystander walking back to his hotel after a night out at the Tai Pan disco (closes at least 4am). Maybe he did get involved in a fight, which is stupid IMO. Whatever happened I hope he fully recovers.

Errr...ok. We can't get the parts we need to make these old helicopters safe, so let's send the president up in one. Bloody America's fault...