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20 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Oh dear. 

Vaccinated people can fly to the beaches of the southern EU countries (Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, France) without having to do a Corvit test before within the EU (with very few exceptions (Bulgaria)). That is a fact.

 

It doesn't hurt to look like other countries, which are equally dependent on tourism, have resolved the revival of their tourism with which rules and how.

Who can fly to the beaches of southern Europe?

Take Czech republic as an example, where can you fly without a covid test before departure?

You cant.

6 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

youve  lost me, you  wanna  talk about the Eu and Thailand when it  suits YOU, ive said the tests are useless at attracting tourists all they want is a  vaccicnation cert and good  to go.  You  imply that having no test is   a  terrible thing and is "no  problem" Well we can se cant we how  many turn up  in November to play musical chairs before they scrap the whole stupid  plan and revert to the simplest option, vaccinated  only.

 

 

 

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  1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

A vaccinated person can fly back and forth within the EU without a test. This year the southern EU countries (Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal) had quite good tourist numbers. For example, Greece achieved 85.7% of the season's values of the previous record year 2019 in the months of July and August.

Can they get on a flight without a test?

You cannot travel freely within the EU without testing.

Im really not sure where you get your info from but its really not correct

9 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Un vaccinated  kids giving it to their  parents who then carry on just fine as theyve been vaccinated, the unvaccinated parents end up  in hospital, plenty of you tube bumf  on that from credible doctors

you do know that in the UK nearly 90% of adults with young children have already had 2 jabs.

So im presuming its the 10% with no jabs that are in hospital?

Trust me if this was the case it would be peddled by the media and we would all know about it.

1 hour ago, cardinalblue said:

Ever heard of KISS principle?

 

only fully vaccinated people are allowed to fly into thailand 

 

eliminate all the BS esp tested again after arrival and one night hotel stay….

 

they will learn from their mistakes….give it a month when they can’t figure out why tourists aren’t coming 

No ones coming because there's nothing open.

4 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Vaccination is  all that should be required, two tests is  just ridiculous

Jesus you still has no idea about how the virus and vaccines work!

Come on, before posting on a subject at least do a little research before your start typing!?

15 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Look at Crowe's Twitter feed and his posts about Thailand - he is loving it.  Perhaps he is genuinely enjoying Thailand, enjoying the Thai warmth, the hospitality, just like he says.  The story of that policeman went around the world - BBC, CNN, national newspapers globally.  Perhaps Crowe saw the story - as did millions of people - and asked to meet him.  Ever thought about that? 

Once again, horrible negativity and cynicism by the TVF populace.  Quite sad.  Do you honestly think Russel Crowe had not seen this story and the Thai police just asked him to pose with the guy and call him his hero?  And he just agreed?

 

Sometimes good news stories are just good news stories.  Get a life and feel some positivity.

 

Its not a whole host of negativity, yes of course these actors and celebrities have to do things and say things that they are told to.....its called promotion.

Just looks like a total set up to me and thats the way things are done the majority of the time.

I am not expecting Crowe's twitter feed to be filled with negativity about the country he is filming in, regardless of his personal point of view.

Maybe he twitter previously mentioned this Thai guy previously!? No thought not, no hes never heard of him before.....

20 hours ago, NanLaew said:

FWIW, my mate's English boss and family will be visiting Thailand again as soon as things improve and they will be retaining the services of my mate's favorite ladyboy as nanny but more of a guide.

 

Yes, the ladyboy is 'on the game' and getting paid for it when there's no opportunity to be a nanny and bills need paying but she's not 'on the game' when she's doing the chaperoning and child minding and getting paid for it.

 

It's got buggerall to do what they do. You can't switch off being a human being after all.

 

Chances are your well-heeled Aussie family are like me, my mate, his boss and the ladyboy and have an open mind.

Yes mate you crack on hiring ladyboys that are on the game as nannies for your friends children!

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

A mate of mine had his favorite ladyboy as babysitter for his boss and his family when they came to Thailand for their summer holidays. The only complaint his boss had was it was hard to get their 'nanny' to let go of the pram.

 

It's possible the family you observed appreciate that a 'prossy' is primarily a human being, even the Thai ones?

 

Then again, you're the one that brought up the question of ignorance.

She was on the game, yes humans are on the game and also exist in all countries, however in most countries you do not tour your family through the red light district.

The point being the well heeled Australian family had no idea she was on the game and where almost oblivious to what was going on on around them. As said its a very surreal experience to see and i think most people are unaware just how much prostitution goes on.

To your point what wrong with a lady boy looking after your children?

Its not who they are its what they do. Was the ladyboy in question on the game also?

Frankly if the Australian family saw her actions after they left they would have been somewhat horrified and she would not longer be looking after their children on their next holiday.

3 hours ago, overherebc said:

Will it make Thailand a bad place to bring your family on holiday if the sex industry is gone or vastly reduced?

Just askin'

Its a very strange / surreal experience wondering through the red light districts of Thailand and seeing / passing plenty of European families with young children in tow actively looking around. You dont get this is other countries.

Ive even seen a family hire a prostitute as a baby sitter, i belive the family had no idea she was on the game and even after their holiday hey brought the prossy a gift and more money. I wonder how they would have felt if they knew what she normally got up to, anyway ignorance is bliss juts find it a bit strange why you would bring family to the redlight areas.

What a terrible article, just shows how the media love to fiddle the numbers!

Correct title for this;

''A 3 month season berry picking in Finland can earn you more than what an unskilled worker could earn in Thailand in a year.''

But i guess that sort of tile doesn't get people arguing and bickering on the Internet lol

Don't be played by the media.

Finland also imported 400 Thais this year with covid, so doubt those ones got anywhere near the 4,000 bucks

Actually quite difficult to read a title like that.

A few years ago my father had a stroke whilst in Thailand and was admitted to Bangkok hospital where he then had a further heart attack (so we believe) then then had to fit a tube in his throat (tracheotomy) in order to keep water off his lungs. Whilst in ICU he arms were tied to the the side of the bed and he had no free movement. After 3 weeks the doctor said we could organise a stretcher plane from Bankgkok to UK and get him back to a hospital there.

The Thai doctors had indicated that the tracheotomy had to stay indefinitely. When he arrived in UK the UK doctors were appaled that he was allowed to travel and it would seem that he was pretty close to death upon arrival back to the UK, the doctors were also bemused about some of the things that were done to him and also questioned some of the treatment that he had had. They also informed after one week that they would take the tube out of his throat, and allow it to heal and hopefully he could then get his voice back.

The one month 'care' in Thailand cost around £60 k, including the flight home and care during flight etc and as mentioned the doctors were pretty horrified at the methods of care used on my father, i was going to sue however tbh didnt want to go through all of that.

Shortly after this a lawyer that i knew in Hua hin had another client end up in Intensive care and i was asked to help as the lady in hospital had no relatives or friends to contact and could i help transfer some money from her UK account. I was being asked this whilst the lady in ICU was signing document that seemed to cover her ownership of her condo, which i later presumed was being signed over!! (yes sounds dodgy bu t i was trying to help) I was asked to collect the women's bag from her condo and use the details to transfer money from her account in UK to Thailand. Upon returning with her bag to the hospital she was now gone! I was told that had to move her to Bangkok as better facilities there. This whole thing felt very weird and i wish i wasnt involved as i was now on camera going into the womens appartment and taking her bag! I asked the staff to forward her bag on, however they would have nothing to do with it and wouldnt assist at all in helping, so i was now stuck with this womens bag!

I felt i couldn't really trust anyone there but also could question their methods.

Can't compare the Hamptons to Hua Hin! Other than they both start with H that's where the similarities end.

Beach front properties will always be in demand however there are not many available in hua hin.

There's plenty of resorts out of town for sale but overpriced and pretty tacky type places which certainly won't attract Thais that have money.

1 hour ago, cliveshep said:

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) are boasting about their re-opening celebration costing 600 million baht to be held on 1st November when LaLisa will perform - and also the world famous Italian tenor singer Andrea Bocelli. Only one problem - TAT are not being truthful.

 

Currently Andrea Bocelli's  tour schedule is in the USA with 2 concerts in Denver, Colorado, on 31st October and 2 on 3rd October in Seattle, Wa 1300 miles away. So he's free on the 1st and 2nd and will be so tired he'll want to relax and NOT come to Thailand, a flight of between 19  and 23 hours each way depending on route. If he did come he'd have to rush to Phuket, sing a song, and rush back to fly back. So clearly TAT have not looked at his schedule and are just plain lying as usual. But they'll need all those vaccine doses as the twin extravaganzas TAT have planned will inevitably lead to the next most devastating 4th wave ever!

 

Meanwhile Sr Bocelli is fully booked until end June 2023 but that's alright, maybe they can celebrate the end of the 4th and 5th waves then? Prayut wants everyone to "hold hands" he says and support the unity. I'll tell you now - I am not holding hands with anyone apart from my wife. Knowing just how clean some Thais are and conscious of their total lack of  effective infection control measures or social distancing my wife and I have alcohol sprays and we constantly spray anything touched by others - plastic wrappings, bags, money, supermarket goods.

 

We rationalise we need to do this as the Vaccination regime is still a total failure, even when we paid for Moderna on assurances it would arrive in October the Government couldn't even get that bit right in ordering for paying customers and it might not now arrive until the middle of next year! They are incompetent and virtually useless! The infection figures dipped although the death rate appears to be the same so presumably they cannot easily massage those figures but the infection figures are climbing again. 

 

Is the 4th wave now on it's way with this ill-advised re-opening? Not that double jabbed and screened visitors will bring it, rather hordes of unwashed and unvaccinated workers - Thai or Migrant - flocking to get work in Tourist venues.

 

It's no wonder the Government and it's Agencies are not trusted and the younger element demand reforms of Government and Monarchy - who can blame them?

another with totally false information, its really sad that we are 2 years into this pandemic and still people think that unvaccinated people are going to be the cause of the virus and the fact that you have linked them to being migrants from other countries and of course they are 'unwashed'

Why cant a vaccinated hi so official pass the virus on?

Just get on with things and stop worrying and analyzing pop singers schedules! and also whether they would be tired to travel or not!

5 minutes ago, aussiexpat said:

I must be special, was really quick approval 

 

Well done.

Compelling reasons do not include a holiday. For the average aged aussie man looking for a holiday you would be unable to leave the country. Seems a bit harsh imo.

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

Old information, this regulation now well relaxed.

 

Plus when the regulation was in place there were many reasons to get an exemption and leave. 

Depends on who you are!

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

I finally moved to Thailand over 20 years ago and it was the best move I have made in my life.

 

Having said that however I live in rural Kamphaeng Phet far from the madding tourist places I have lived and worked in Bangkok for about 5 years in the late 1990s and also out in the provinces and I much prefer it in the rural areas.

 

Most of the time the government is in the background and ignored. Draconian laws rarely affect us, water shortages sometimes, floods sometimes, electrical outages once a month or so, but it is possible to work round most of them or simply live with them.

 

As for government mis-management that happens everywhere and it rarely affects that many people anyway.

 

quote "What a backward country this is, those in charge have no idea what they are doing". Now there I agree with you, and the only way to remove them is to have more and bigger guns, which takes us back to where we are now.

Fair comments, perhaps i might look for more a rural location in years to come however at this time the government's ability to implement crazy laws at the drop of a hat would effect me greatly at this point in my life

4 hours ago, Heng said:

That's one take on it.  One can also say they are being conservative because it has been seen what the pandemic can do (India, US, Brazil...) when one let's their guard down.  

India is not even in the top 50 of deaths per capita, US is not in the top 20 either.

8 hours ago, Chivas said:

Yep they simply do not grasp that until you can turn up at Suvarnabhumbi with a just a vaccination certificate, passport and a smile than 99% are not coming

that's never going to happen, looks like the whole world especially the 3rd world countries are being reset or something like that

Get ready for even more inequality around the world, its coming. The elites already travel without any  issues. They put the masks on for the photos only.

What a backward country this is, those in charge have no idea what they are doing.

Draconian laws, water shortages, electrical outages, total mismanagement of any scheme they attempt to introduce.

Thank god or anyone that i did not move to Thailand, the place is literally a car crash (no pun intended)

Technically you won't be fully vaccinated until you have had 3 shots.

Everyone over 50 and front line workers are first inline for the 3rd jab in the UK today.

It officially started this week in the UK and no doubt every other country will follow suit in the coming months.

This stuff is banned in many shops / hotels in Thailand! Perhaps that's why there looking at increasing export markets!

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I'm thinking even a step further. My 2nd jab of Pfizer mid-September then load up the fridge and lock myself up for at least 6 weeks to see how this pans out. My little inner voice is telling me this won't be pretty.

this is the problem, peoples attitude is too far gone and are pretty much paranoid, negativity can have an effect and weaken your immune system, how long can you ignore or avoid the common cold?

Apologies if your post was sarcastic however i do think many people do feel the way you wrote above, that is a problem.