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16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

 

I've never found that to be the case, Binta has happy hours where a small beer is 60bht (Heaven at the T-junction and Panama along Selakam Road) , Soi 80 never gets below 80bht for a small one.

Alot of the bars in soi 80 do a 3 beer promotion for about 150 baht, which attracts the locals only specific beers though, so quite abit cheaper than binta.

Plus the older guys that live here very rarely visit panama bar they are tucked up in bed by the time that gets busy and then its 100bht for SML

Soi 80 is where most of the ex pats hang out because the drinks are a little cheaper than binta. Plus they they seem to prefer not to associate with tourist types, unless they are bestowing their words of wisdom as they seem to know all about Thailand and quite happy to tell you about it!

Soi 80 is pretty much a sheet hole and can only be handled with copious amounts of alcohol. Girls are pretty moody although a bell ring can liven them up a bit, plus they seem to have very limited English skills.

It is more lively than binta in the afternoon so attracts a few visitors.

Stick to Binta at night, generally a good laugh and girls are mush easier to get along with.

Yes great point, also worth to note that it seems its similar attitude throughout Asia not just Thailand.

Being 'brutally honest' doesn't do you the same favours in Thailand as it would do if you were in Europe or USA.

Savings one face is more important than being honest and unfortunately that's the way it will always be.

That's also why i never take a 'yes' as 100% confirmation from a Thai, as this can easily change depending how that decision effects that person socially and how they are then seen within their community.

On 28/06/2017 at 2:12 AM, kunfish said:

Some want to escape poverty and do get tricked. Professional scammers are just that and often good at what they do.

If I was attempting to scam someone id probably aim for a bracket slightly higher than 'living in poverty'

On 23/06/2017 at 3:16 AM, kunfish said:

There are also tons of foreigners who are scammers looking to get money from Thai women looking for a foreign husband.

Good luck trying to scam a Thai women and getting away with it lol

Thai women seem to have an uncanny way of knowing what it is you want and then fulfilling that need.

Any Thai women dating or marring a farang would lose respect from other Thais, especially the middle class ones.

Thank you for the replies, it seems very suspicious and ties in with some other things that do not really add up.

I really don't understand how they can be so contradictory. On the face of it they do anything to help you and it seems some of them are just setting you up. 

They don't see you as a customer but as some sort of private pension scheme for themseleves.

I didn't see any papers that related to a visa application just plans of her condo which she was signing on each page.

Is that normal on a visa application if you own a condo in Thailand?

She had not disclosed some previous ailment with the insurance company and therefore they were looking into it.

She could barely speak and was very confused and could just about sign the papers. She was unable to remember her passwords at the time and i helped her speak to the bank and we managed to get some details but as said she was very confused. We were unable to transfer money that stage.

The lawyer was also my lawyer at the time (not anymore) so she asked me to help.

I was also told by the lawyer that i could stay in Jane's condo free of charge !?

Unfortunately the following day the lady had a heart attack whilst in ICU and was moved to a hospital in Bangkok.

As said there was more involved but does this seem normal behaviour for such a situation in Thailand?

I was approached by a Hua Hin Lawyer / accounting firm to assist with an English lady (Jane) who had been admitted to the intensive care unit in Bangkok hospital Hua Hin.

Jane had money in the UK but the hospital bill needed paying and she only had about 10,000 THB in Thailand right then and she didn't have Internet banking etc and it was unknown how long she would be in hospital. I was called in to help transfer the money from UK - Thailand and also discuss with her insurance company regarding her entitlements.

When I arrived at the hospital later that day her lawyer / accountant was getting Jane to sign her name on  all her deeds and documents that related to her condo in Hua hin that she owned.

I queried with the lawyer why Jane had to sign all these docs and i was told that she needed to extend her visa and the lawyer was helping her do that.
 

There is more to this story however is this normal practice baring in mind she had only been in hospital (ICU)  2 days?

Desperation I guess.

Presuming you have difficult finding a women in Australia I wouldn't suggest coming to Thailand for a women as there's a strong likelihood that you will be sussed straight away. Certainly don't tell the girls this is your intention and don't mention what you get paid,

If you were to find a girl and based on your comments on the thread I would imagine you will end up with a non educated Issan. In this case and others you will be expected to look after the family and your relationship with them will depend on how much you provide for them.

Again based on your comments and age you will get bled dry,  So imo just enjoy a holiday and maybe think about retiring in Thailand.

Then you can stick all the assets in her name, enjoy all the attention untill you plop your clogs.

You will experience a better relationship with your new Thai family as they will get a windfall once you've passed away.

On 08/06/2017 at 5:46 AM, Peterw42 said:

brother sees it for 2,500 and manages to find a buyer for 2,700.

 

The refrigerator is still in my condo full of milk etc, but the GF has made 500 baht, the brother has made 1,000 baht and the friend has made 200 baht.

My experience in Thailand suggests the calculations would be slightly different....the only one that will make money on this deal is your GF's brothers friend who's actually sold the fridge.

His thoughts will be his mates sister doesn't need the money as shes with a farang and he'll palm his mate off, perhaps give him a few beers and that'll be that.

On another note......A close friend of mine lent 2 m THB  to a thai lady so she could buy her husband out of the house they owned in Thailand and that would enable her to 'move on', as they were going through a divorce.

Turns out the 'loan agreement' was actually detailed as a donation and not even signed by a lawyer. (yes should have checked all detail!)

Turns out she didn't pay it to her husband at all as he still lives in the house but they've made a cracking job of the extension on the front and extended bathroom on the back!!!

The way i see it, is this has gone too far and you are not going to rectify this situation.

You didn't stand up for yourself in the first place the gf and family saw a weakness and now they are exploiting you.

When you start a relationship in any country someones 'always wears the trousers' so to speak and if you don't control the situation someone else will. You are not respected and i hate to say it but this is based on your posts on this subject.

Its understandable as you are in a foreign country and you tend to be polite and don't want to disrespect them or their traditions.

If you able to look after yourself then get the hell out of there. good luck

16 hours ago, Elkski said:

We do need an update on this romance.   But I and others have hyjacked this thread.   To the poster before me.  Can you qualify your last generalization?  Do you date girls with predominantly a certain education level?  Primary, secondary, HS, BS, masters.  And what career path did your women have?   I have found college educated Thai women to be as thought provoking as western women.  Without all the baggage.  

Being honest my first 'gf' in Thailand was working in a salon and met her when i popped in for a pedicure. Looking back she might well have been on the game but im happy to presume she worked in that salon, saying that she never worked their again!? Anyway she was a party girl and i was staying in the UK and it all got too hectic (many cases of her being a nutter and enjoys partying too much)

After that i 'upgraded' and dated two girls over the next 8 years both professional ladies with university background, nice house nice car etc. These were both a nightmare in the long run and lost money because of their trust and the fact that i thought i had found a decent one.

They definitely both had baggage and yes they were certainly thought provoking!

I've dabbled with the odd bar girl in between nothing serious as you know they are going to be a waste of time but tbh have become friends with a couple of them that have bf's in UK and once you hear their story you kinda feel sorry for them but not as sorry as their bfs whom send them money and apply for visas etc!

Ive asked a couple of ladies and whom visit the UK and Germany on visas. Neither of them want to go but if they don't show interest they know the money will dry up.

The other thing i have learnt is that we are so lucky being brought up in a 1st world country. Its gives us such opportunity that we take for granted. Yes we are still corrupt but compared to places like Thailand....everything's above board :)

as someone else once put it.....its like working with the special needs: Frustrating, challenging yet strangely rewarding...

47 minutes ago, Rc2702 said:

 

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OK enlighten me.

 

Date 1. How did you figure out she was a hooker? In hindsight could you have saved yourself the time by being a little less err needy?

 

Date 2. How do you know you were being set up for getting conned?

- maybe you were a bit paranoid after the experience with date 1

 

Date 3. She was lovely and great but not worth an hours bus ride? 

 

After your 1st 2 experiences date 3 sounds like plain sailing.

 

Homework.  Normally revolves around communication asking questions not being too quick to meet. 

 

Your situation and your own words lead me to believe you jumped online as a last resort and you added the pressure as it was you who did not want to be alone, therefore you rushed it and these are your own personal experiences as you say, but they all sound like you rushed it.

 

What length of time are we talking about anyway?

 

Lol. I was there for 2 weeks and after a few days and as a young guy in Asia its never hard to gain some attraction however a few ladies that i did meet were very shy and didn't speak much English. The men on the other hand were er quite forthcoming and as nice as they were i didn't want to go down that route but thanks for the company.

 

So i thought about a dating site as their profiles would indicate some level of English.I was just looking for some company and if it went somewhere it went somewhere, not much more than that. Ive never joined a dating site before and wasnt interested in building some rapport on the internet just get out there and meet a few locals or local (ish)

 

Date 1 i could tell something was up when i walked through the town with her and the looks i got from other Philippine people, anyway took her for some food and she said she had to be home by 7 and if we want to go back to my room? I said whats the point if you have to go home soon, she gave the look every other hooker that ive met has given me, I declined her offer and off she went.

 

The second date was very dodgy from the start, she kept asking what hotel i was staying in and about my watch anyway i was a bit on edge tbh but i took her for some food..... then she asked if i would her back to her car. I didnt know the town that well and we walked for about a mile and then she tried to direct me down these steps in what what looked like a dodgy area. I declined and left.

The following morning i told the phillipine women that i was working with what happened and I asked her where those steps headed to ? and she had a look of shock and embarrasment and said for sure i would have been mugged had i gone down there, it was a trap!

 

A couple of days later i noticed another interesting girl from the site and although i was leaving in a few days i agreed to meet. She was sweet and we had pizza and a good vibe and exchanged skypes and kept in touch for the next couple of years but her english wasn't that good and then she moved to Makati and we slowly stopped chatting.

 

Met my Mrs on an App called Wechat. When she told me to do1 on the first message I was smitten.  3 years ago. Took nearly 3 weeks to meet her and a lot of harassment

 

Whats she doing on an app called wechat if she didn't want to chat? Don't get it?

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So you gave in to your loneliness and sought solace from a dating site and you did not do enough homework prior to the meet to ensure you were not being "Gamed" or have I got this wrong in which case how did you come to meet them?

I feel you are nit picking my posts now however i will reply.......

Not many people working there spoke English so I joined a dating site to meet some English speaking women and that what happened. Just sharing my experience, not sure how your supposed to do your homework to ensure not being gamed?  I was in a remote (ish) part of the phillipines and two the said three profiles were hookers or even worse a total con women. One was ok but it was a long bus ride away and i was leaving in 5 days. Whats so funny about that?

So on the same note you can understand some sentiments of thai women's reluctance to date farangs if even worldly farangs have notions like this. The world is a big place and you get the rough with the smooth pretty much everywhere but thai dating sites are 100% not to be trusted. Strange

Who's mentioned anything about a thai womens reluctance to date a farang?  They don't really give a toss as long as they are kept sweet.

Yes i wouldn't trust or use a dating web site as the vast majority of applicants would be a big waste of time.....they will be either on the game or have hit rock bottom and this is the last resort. Not for me however if a short time is your thing then go ahead with it but there's easier ways to do that than going down the dating site route

23 hours ago, Rc2702 said:

 

Again your generic responses are questionable. 10 odd posts ago this person I'm quoting quoted "the game" I bet a few boys in Pattaya wholly agreed with that and got you a few likes in the process

You are doing exactly the same just from the opposite view point...'a few boys from pattaya'  please......

It's hard work leaving a 5 baht tip in the north east as most places I've frequented are not accustomed to tips.

Your popping at me for not giving any real experiences, yet these are yours? of course the Thais in the North aren't going to tip each other, especially not 10%!

I'm reading your content and seeing not an ounce of a personal touch and wondering why when you have so much to say do you say so little in way of realistic examples?

I have had many experiences. I'm certainly not just making this up, these are my conclusions from my experiences. Its all personal and no doubt when the time is right i will share. 'Timing is everything'

Anyway I don't really blame anyone of them, we all have choices to make. Ive been involved in International business all my adult life, and have found that most of it is a joke and someone always looking for a fast buck, look at the government and how they act and this stems down through the ranks.

Integrity is a great thing but they are very very few who actually have this trait and even those that assume they do can often find themselves in a different situation with a different view very easily.

On the dating site remark, I did join one in the Philippines when i was 'stuck' out in Vigan (North West) for a month. Not the same as Issan but similar in the fact that they rarely see farangs.

I had three dates, one was obviously just on the game, the other tried to entice me into an area where i would have been mugged and the other one was lovely but unfortunately this was the last date and i was heading to Thailand the following week and she lived about 1 hour from where i was. 

I personally would steer clear of the Thai online dating site as mentioned above any thai lady joining a 'farang styled' dating site is making a career choice not trying to find their soul mate!

We all have some confirmation bias in our system and we interpret new information so that our prior conclusions remain intact.

“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.” 

8 hours ago, JAFO said:

The " women knowing English" comments that so many speak of on here shows the high level of ignorance many have.  I guess its because all those posters see are Bar Girls and hookers and are likely sexpats so they have a very limited view.

 

I have worked for two US based companies over the last 10+ years in Thailand and English is required as part of the job. Its funny that the folks on this site always refer to the women and how many foreigners they have been with to learn it. What about all the men that speak English fluently? See my point? They went to school. 

 

The staff  that reports to me directly and I interact with went to school and learned English just like I did when I learned Spanish and some Italian. The professional office women have never dated a foreigner. Most are married with children and live normal lives like most do. They have house payments, cars, school expenses etc etc. You guys need to get out of Pattaya, Nana and off internet dating sites and see more of the world.  

 

 

I agree that in this sense 95% of people on this site have only access to the tourist type places (of course we are all only tourists even if you've lived in Thailand for 30 years...you certainly aren't a local.

How many of you guys frequent Thai bars? or Thai only areas? None because you would probably end up in trouble and certainly no one would be interested to talk to you. Kind of different to the tourist areas, eh.

In above regard....im not talking about Some thai village stuck on in the north somewhere, where they smile in the hope that you might take pity and fix their roof sometime.

Your relationship with your MIL (Should you have one) will also tell you more about the Thai attitude to farangs.

The amount of money you or you wife give her will be directly proportional to the amount of affection and Interest that MIL shows in you.

How many of you guys go out regularly with Thai men for drinks or a meal?  How many regularly receive affection from Thai women?

Not very proportional is it.

My best trip to Thailand was my first one as I was so naive to the goings on and just went along with it without thinking too much. Having seen and experienced many aspects of thai life (Ive been pattaya twice and hated both trips) so don't go down that route as is the normal retort to a post like this.

In some ways i wish i was just an ostrich like that first couple of trips. However i still enjoy Thailand and the people there.

Life is a joke and if you don't realize that you are the joke.

I could write similar condeming reports on living abroad in different countries or living in your own country.... we are all looking for something and every relationship has a trade of.....its just the thai women have a canny knack of digging in to this and giving you exactly what you want.

On 27/05/2017 at 11:40 PM, catman20 said:

your an old romantic arnt you ?

I'm glad you noticed :)

Its just very hard to take anything seriously as a farang in Thailand.

If you are not playing the game, you are the game.

If you had the slightest business acumen, you would know that 1000% is ridiculous.

Ah that's where he went wrong he didn't realize % were infinite! Otherwise all this would have been solved already.

That's sarcasm by the way.

Seriously the guy ordered the shirts and caps and was told they could deliver in time.

Only fault is Thais very rarely say No to a farang when been asked for something.

Hindsight find somewhere local, check their products and pay a % deposit.

Its certainly not helped by the TV adverts and billboards that depict these pale Thai people.

As said the ladies in the west....'like to have a healthy glow'

Its not a case of wanting what you haven't got...Just manipulation by business'

All about the dollar.

13 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Now im just me now. And loving it

I'm glad your happier than you were before......

7 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

All i have lost in Thailand is my ability to think that as a white person from the UK i am somehow special. So glad i lost that.

You used to think you were special because you came from the UK? but now?

I'm not saying I know everything just that this is what i have experienced during my time in Thailand.

Unfortunately i spent alot of time in hospital in Thailand with several patients and it simply quite shocking some of the practices that go on there.

We all pay for something in one way or another its just the way it done that disappoints me.

5 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

And  could  you  confirm that these same   farang have never  lost something,regardless  of perceived  status, in any other  location?

The way the  world  is now  everyone is a part of a  game in reality. Thailand  may simply but not  exclusively be a  little  less  generous  to the   naive.

maybe but not in the same manner as how it happens in Thailand. Ive lived in Australia / Spain and the attitudes are very different.

I don't really blame them as they are only looking after themselves and their family.

1 hour ago, Anon999 said:

A cynic, no more no less and obviously not living here either. Depends how much you boasted about yourself and your assets! See you have been a long time member, since just last month. Think pinch of salt is called for.

Yes certainly, if you pronounce yourself as someone with a bit of cash, splash the cash so to speak then for sure you are basically setting yourself up.

To be fair the majority of farangs i've met in Thailand have at some point lost something, regardless of their perceived status.

Don't get me wrong i enjoy visiting Thailand but as a farang you are part of a game.