ed strong

Few years ago my father lent 2m baht to a Thai lady who's was going through a divorce from a Swedish man and she needed the money to buy him our of their house in Hua Hin.

He did have some paper saying that she would pay him back and that in the event of the house being sold and was reportedly signed by a law / accounting firm, however upon looking into it no one at the firm had any idea of it.

Unfortunately he had a heart attack a year later whilst coincidentally with the lady in question, i since have followed it up but got no where and in the end gave up as there was nothing i could do, he ended up in ICU in Hua Hin which cost another 3.5m Baht.

He was also building a house near Banyan golf course and unfortunately that was in her name also.

Great memories of that little lot. Lawyers / property agents all in on it ????

Officially what booster should you be on now, if you have followed the directives?

4 5 or 6 maybe?

Pattaya is pretty gross overall,  horrible beaches with the dregs of most countries residing there. However if decadent bebauchery is your thing then you'll have a whale of a time.

There's a good reason its cheaper is because its a <deleted> hole.

On 12/25/2022 at 1:44 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Dishonest debating deserves nothing less.

'Dishonest Debating' Now you are just making up terms that no one has ever used before.

Please contradict anything i have written, its all backed up with links ( As i know you don't read books only stuff on the internet, your words)

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why would I want to spend money on a book when the internet provides free information?

So instead of copying and pasting your original post from this link above and passing it off as your own, why did you not attribute it rather than argue that my links portrayed the same, which they don't?

 

I'm not going to debate with you further as your article from Larsen is clearly opposing Ukraine joining NATO 

"WHY NATO SHOULD NOT OFFER UKRAINE AND GEORGIA MEMBERSHIP ACTION PLANS"

"I'm not going to debate with you further"

Classic response ????

Seriously thank god for that, I'm out too.

Merry Xmas.

59 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

How exactly is that agreeing with your post that you still have not substantiated? Do you want reminding of it yet again? 

You can buy his book here if you're interesting in further info..

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NATOs-Democratic-Retrenchment-Hegemony-Security/dp/1138585289

38 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No you said:

 

"They weren't aloud to join as they have missed so many European Union, International Monetary Fund, and U.S. reform encouragements since 2014.

This is further undercut by the reality that Ukraine is not in control of all of its territory. Russia has annexed Crimea and supports separatist republics in the Donbas"

 

So.................

They weren't aloud to join as they have missed so many European Union, International Monetary Fund, and U.S. reform encouragements since 2014

Please provide a link to this claim.

 

 

 

These are quotes from the Henrik Larsen who served as political advisor for the EU in Ukraine from 2014 - 2019

Link here....https://warontherocks.com/2021/06/why-nato-should-not-offer-ukraine-and-georgia-membership-action-plans/

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

How exactly is that agreeing with your post that you still have not substantiated? Do you want reminding of it yet again? 

I said Ukraine needed to make some reforms before it was allowed to be considered to join Nato and you then opposed it but also posted a link that said ''that it needed to make reforms before having Nato membership, (Atlantic something or other .com)

Prospective embers need to show a ''fully developed military, government and democracy''. Break those 3 things down and you will get to exactly what i posted earlier.

55 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I already provided a link to the 5 - 10 year period.

 

Sweden and Finland as you well know are not at war and have a fully developed military, government and democracy. 

 ''have a fully developed military, government and democracy.''

Exactly.

You are opposing all my posts yet in the same breath backing it all up with your own links and posts!?

9 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link for that? Particularly since they never even received a NATO Membership Action Plan, from there its still a 5 to 10 year process. It was not till 2021 at a Brussels summit that NATO leaders promised a MAP as an integral part of the process. However the Russian invasion started before that even got of the ground.

Ref's:

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-is-ukraine-still-not-in-nato/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–NATO_relations

 

You also missed completely the offer by Zelensky to commit to NOT joining NATO in return for peace talks, duly turned down by Putin. This was one month into the war, March 2022.

 

Zelensky says Ukraine prepared to discuss neutrality in peace talks

In nod to Russia, Ukraine says no longer insisting on NATO membership

Zelensky: We won’t join NATO if that brings peace

 

Anyone who thinks this was anything other than Putin's imperialist ambitions is obviously just reading RT NEWS

Never seen RT news whatever that is.

Sweden and Finland have been offered NATO membership and certainly have no MAP of 5 to 10 year time frame.

https://www.swedenabroad.se/en/embassies/usa-washington/current/news/sweden-applies-for-nato-membership/

Its only for Georgia and Ukraine and the country needs reforms before membership is granted.

9 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link for that? Particularly since they never even received a NATO Membership Action Plan, from there its still a 5 to 10 year process. It was not till 2021 at a Brussels summit that NATO leaders promised a MAP as an integral part of the process. However the Russian invasion started before that even got of the ground.

Ref's:

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-is-ukraine-still-not-in-nato/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine–NATO_relations

 

You also missed completely the offer by Zelensky to commit to NOT joining NATO in return for peace talks, duly turned down by Putin. This was one month into the war, March 2022.

 

Zelensky says Ukraine prepared to discuss neutrality in peace talks

In nod to Russia, Ukraine says no longer insisting on NATO membership

Zelensky: We won’t join NATO if that brings peace

 

Anyone who thinks this was anything other than Putin's imperialist ambitions is obviously just reading RT NEWS

Seriously, did you even read your own link that you posted?

The same comments i made are in your atlantic council link. I will quote from your own link.

''It is worth emphasizing that Ukraine has also recently speeded up its own domestic Euro-Atlantic reforms. In particular, last month the Ukrainian parliament passed a first reading of the long-awaited reform of the Ukrainian Security Service in accordance with NATO recommendations. Growing trust between the special services of Ukraine and NATO member states, along with increasing interoperability between armed forces, is vital''

What exactly do you think these reforms relate to?

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Why had Ukraine not been allowed to join NATO before the invasion then and why did Zelensky additionally offer Putin a peace deal stating he would not join NATO if that brought peace? How does that fit in with your theory?

They weren't aloud to join as they have missed so many European Union, International Monetary Fund, and U.S. reform encouragements since 2014.

This is further undercut by the reality that Ukraine is not in control of all of its territory. Russia has annexed Crimea and supports separatist republics in the Donbas.

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Has that got anything at all to do with Zelensky visiting the US to get further help to kick out the Russian terrorists  that are murdering innocent civilians and destroying their homes?

I wouldnt trust any of them they are all crooks.

23 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

Tell us all about it - we just can't get enough... 

A Man with my level of education! ????

4 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

I was asking myself just the other day if I actually believed all the hype about the humanitarian support the Ukraine is getting from the US and others.

 

Then it dawned on me, the US took out the pipeline and is now negotiating with Europe to sell them gas via a new facility they have been building, hmmm.

 

Putting everything else aside, you know Putin and all, sounds like big business to me and anything to take Russia out of making the coin it what supposed to be making.

 

Just my thoughts.

 

 

Nearly two-thirds of US LNG went to Europe, up from roughly a third of the total in all of 2021. America has shot past Australia and Qatar to become the world's largest LNG exporter. A deal agreed to in March by America and the EU calls for an extra 50bcm per year of American LNG to flow to Europe this decade.

2 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

Blunt but unfortunately true appraisal. Done it myself without the sinsot. We initially get sucked in by the "no have choi, need support family" line, and the knight in shining armor comes to the rescue. No different to marrying a hopeless junkie hooker back home, buying her a home in her name, throwing money at her family and thinking "what could go wrong" ???????? lol. And the thai parents of these girls you just gave $xxxxx of dollars to must be thinking we are as stupid as a hookers parents sitting in a trailer park back home would ???????? 

You cant compare western junkie hookers to Thai bar girls!

Ive enjoyed many thai bar girls but never have I, or would i think about going with a UK junkie hooker.

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

I got involved in next to nothing. My wife did. She didn't bring the conversations up either. She was responding to questions being asked. Just like any father of daughter, as I am, would want to know the boyfriend, what he does, what his plans are, etc. Nothing out of the ordinary.

Not sure why you call them negotiations. There were no such thing.

 

Shame you need to belittle my family. I guess you had these experiences yoursrlf and are tarring everyone with the same brush.

I'm not belittling your family, i just don't like the open discussions with regards to what you can actually provide to their families bur also appreciate that many if these relationships do work and everyone's happy.

I might well end up in a similar situation when I'm 60 however I would go into any relationship with my eyes wide open, unlike the majority of farangs that I've met over the years and some good guys have been screwed over

19 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

You appear to have missed my point.

 

I don't recall saying I paid off any debts. I also don't recall saying I was asked to pay of loan sharks. Certainly not for other family members.

 

By discussing these points with my wife and her parents at an early stage, it negated the possibility of such happening. 

I find it bizarre that you have to have these type of discussions with your future wife and her parents.

Negotiations in the prelude to marriage seem crass to me and not something i would get involved in but each to their own.

2 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

There are lots of huge generalisations on this topic.

 

Everyone and every situation is up to the couple getting married. If your wife is sincere to you she will fight your corner. My wife told her parents we would not be having a village wedding. She said to them simply, would you like a party to show off or would you rather we used the money to build a house and be near the family? They accepted her views. 

 

We got married legally at the district office, no party, no big deal and no sinsod.

 

Since then, as suggested at the time, we have taken care of a few financial difficulties that Mum and Dad have had but only those beyond their control. My wife has been asked and refused to pay back gambling debts or loan shark payments but has been happy to help through some other sticky situations. This in turn has helped to show Mum and Dad the value of money and how to control spending and bad habit.

 

In return, I have become a part of the family. I have integrated with their culture, not ridiculed their beliefs or superstitions, have accepted that they are not that well educated, turned a blind eye to problems beyond my control and, I believe from what they have told me, become part of the family in their eyes. Just their daughter's husband. Not the farang married to their daughter.

 

Respect is earned. Not given. A flat, arrogant, self self refusal to give sinsod is not the way to go and will be remembered. Talking about how you plan to take care of your new wife and possibly Mum and Dad a few times along the way will also be remembered, but for different reasons.

money money money. You claiming to have avoided sinsod by your wife suggesting they dont have a party and keep the money and also you paid off their parents debts and being asked to pay off loan sharks of family members debts!

Sinsod or not they got the money.

3 hours ago, cocoonclub said:

That’s nonsense, of course. Not all Thais are poor villagers who care about Sinsod. 
 

I‘m glad my gf rolls her eyes about these antique traditions. Otherwise I would run. 

Of course not but in relation to the comments and thoughts on this thread, which concerns expats in Thailand, I would say 99% of farangs are with poor Northern women, hence why you would be expected to look after the family either through sin sod or just giving them money, house etc.

Why on earth anyone would want to get married is another thing but alot of old folks are still steeped into marriages and traditions. Its how you they / we were brought up.

If you're taking the bread winner away from the family, especially if she has children and the grand parents look after it, then of course they need some money from you.

Opposing any type of sin sod, is kinda like going to Qatar and wearing a lgbqt shirt just because you wear one in your own country. Its disrepectfull and you are going against local traditions.

I found out the hard way about disrepsecting Thais if they have any sort of nouse about them they will bleed you dry.

Foreignors need to give blood?

Could they bee more specific for eg there no point in all the African or Chinese tourists rushing to donate as its more than likely their blood wont fit the qualifying standard / type.

Apparently the Basque region of Spain is where most of this blood is found.

name a world cup that wasnt corrupt.

they'll probably receive a payment from fifa just like Ireland got stitched up against Frane with the handball in the play off game.

Its great to see the Thais educating the farang. I'm sure he will pass on some that knowledge to his friends and family back home. Priceless.