Eloquent pilgrim

Just tell me one thing in my comment that you have made this reply to that is untrue; you can call my comment an Islamophobic diatribe as often as you like, but everything I said is factual. I have explained to you countless times that my fear of Islam is based on sound, logical, and rational thinking; and every time you falsely accuse me of Islamophobia I will defend my position.

As stated many times, there is no phobia whatsoever involved in my fear of Islam, but you still throw the word around like a student protester. Islamists hang gays from cranes (not in the UK - yet) subjugate women including imprisoning them for incorrectly wearing the hijab (not in the UK) Islamists force female genital mutilation on 12 year old children (in the UK) Islamists force prepubescent schoolgirls to marry old men (in the UK) They practice Sharia law, against UK law, promoting honour killings (always of daughters, never of sons) and it also includes their divorce law (you can imagine how well that works for the subjugated women) So you see, my fear of Islam is based on logical, rational reasoning, nothing to do with any phobia, but you keep saying it, I’m sure it gives you a warm virtuous feeling inside.

Get over yourself petal …. and google “phobia”

OMG. Just listen to yourself; straight out of the David Brent handbook of how to embarrass yourself 😬

I was not talking to you, I was replying directly to a poster that had questioned my knowledge of Islam; so, although you are free to reply to any comment on this thread, don’t try and tell me what I can and cannot post; you are not a moderator, although you continually act like one. Unfortunately, my reply to @brewsterbudgen included some criticism of Islam which obviously traumatised you; that is your issue, not mine. You seem happy to continually mention the pointless and mindless violence of the riots, but remain in complete and utter denial about the reasons behind them; it must be your complete lack of knowledge about the events of the last few decades in the UK.

Thanks for your reply, although I’m not sure how my fear can be both understandable and irrational at the same time; however, that not withstanding, I have already read extensively about the many different factions / sects of Islam. I also have some personal experience dealing with Muslims. I had my own business in a London wholesale fruit market for many years, and in that time I had something like 30 Muslim customers; mostly of Pakistani, Iranian or Iraqi heritage, a few from Lebanon, although most from Lebanon were Christians. One Pakistani lad that was a regular customer for 3 years, was called Nazir (Naz) very westernised, jeans, trainers, funky haircut, and like myself, a cricket fanatic. I arrived at the market early one morning in April 2005 to learn that the previous evening he had, with the help of a seventeen year old cousin, stabbed his beautiful 25 year old sister to death, for wanting to marry an Afghan man, rather than a man from the Pakistani family circle. I subsequently had countless conversations with other Muslim customers about this, and was somewhat alarmed by the dismissive acceptance of the other Pakistanis; this was not the case with Muslims of other heritage, who told me that the ‘honour’ issue was only held to such extreme by the Pakistani community. He was jailed for life in 2006 with a minimum sentence of 20 years; this is just another example of the unpredictable violence that can nurture a fear of Islam.

I listed a very small percentage of the thousands of slaughters of thousands of innocent western civilians, perpetrated by Muslims as my reason for fearing Islam. I explained quite clearly that my fear is rationally based on these, and hundreds of other such events, and has nothing whatsoever to do with any phobia. I did this in response to you accusing me of Islamophobia, but you have been so far indoctrinated by left wing media and your own moral grandstanding, that you refuse point blank to allow any discussion about the greatest ever threat to western civilisation; instead, like all left wing protagonists, you just squeal ‘Islamophobia’ like a flag waving campus protester. Within a day of the appalling slaughter of the 3 young girls, the focus had shifted to the riots and speculation about if he was a Muslim or not, as can be seen all over the many pages of comments on here; Mosques have been targeted in the riots, so to mention Islam is quite valid on this thread, and you are not the adjudicator on that, although your default position is to immediately close down any discussion about Islam. These riots are about Islam in the UK, the killing of the 3 little girls was just the excuse to start; this is about 30 years of Pakistani grooming gangs being given licence by the left to commit thousands of sexual assaults and rapes of indigenous white girls. It is about the 30 (and counting) Sharia councils operating in the UK against UK law, promoting the female genital mutilation of 12 year old children, and the forced marriage of prepubescent schoolgirls to old men; but you wouldn’t know anything about that not living in England for the last 30 years, and only gleaning UK news from the Guardian, the BBC, or the Independent.

So, once again, you find it completely impossible to give a definition of Islamophobia, even though you throw the word around like confetti, and have now accused me of it three times .... pathetic

You seem to have been reduced to name calling now; that’s the second time you’ve accused me of Islamophobia, both times without any explanation. So maybe you could explain exactly what you think the definition of Islamophobia is; but may I respectfully suggest you google ‘phobia’ before replying … many thanks

What on earth are you talking about; you actually accused me of Islamophobia, and then when I refute your accusation, you spit your dummy out. Don’t accuse people of something if you are not prepared to be answered; typical left wing student tactics.

Just when I thought that you couldn’t possibly leave a more woke comment than any of your previous ones, you excel yourself and come up with this little gem; accusing me of Islamophobia, that recently invented word, used by the left, and antisemites, as a way of shutting down any discussion or criticism about the myriad problems that Islam has brought to western civilisation. A phobia, just in case you didn’t know, is an unreasonable, or irrational fear of something. Do I fear Islam ? absolutely, it terrifies me. Is my fear irrational or unreasonable ? absolutely not, it is based on a very logical, rational thought process, influenced by the hundreds of attacks on, and murders of, innocent western civilians by muslims; here are just a few that spring to mind: 9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured 7/7 London bombs 52 dead 784 injured 2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured 2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured. 2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured 2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead 2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured 2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead 2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street 2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded 2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured 2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death 2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church 2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead 2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured 2024 Crocus hall Moscow: 140 dead 300 injured All these slaughters of innocent western civilians, and there are hundreds more, yes, hundreds, and hundreds more, were carried out by adherents to Islam; listed are just a few of the reasons that I fear Islam, and there is no phobia attached to my fear whatsoever. Conversely, you, no doubt, as an apologist and enabler for this misogynistic, homophobic, medieval death cult masquerading as the religion of peace, will be fully equipped to act as if none of this happened.

The killing of the 3 innocent young girls was just the blue touch paper to a much deeper malaise in British society, and scapegoating Robinson and Farage, who merely piggybacked onto the riots, is left wing propaganda; fodder for the gullible and incurious. Unfortunately, the left wing liberals either don’t have the political intelligence to realise what this is all about, or the courage to admit it. Some 30 years ago the Muslim population in Britain rioted over a book ‘The Satanic verses’ This terrified the establishment which has been appeasing them ever since to the detriment of moral sense and Western values. Young white girls were allowed to become sacrificial offerings for the sexual gratification of Pakistani Muslim men, in the hope of diverting them from rioting; this was enabled by the police, Labour councils, and left wing social service workers. Any opposition to the influence of 7th century Islamic values, has been brutally oppressed by the establishment for years, while the likes of Anjem Choudary promoted Salafi jihadism with impunity. Having finally understood that our liberalism is seen as weakness by Muslims, some in British society, have taken a leaf out of the Islamic book and started to riot; these riots are of course not the answer, but it is what happens when a large part of the electorate feel that their concerns are being ignored and marginalised, whilst the establishment prioritises minorities.

Sorry, which question is that ? I hope you're not referring to the question that I have already answered

That’s those British Muslims for you again, racist to the chore (sic) core ?

Nitpicking ? you claimed he was born in an entirely different country to the one in which he was actually born.

Those would be the British Muslims that usually holiday in Pattaya or Bangkok.

He doesn’t seem like a normal English school kid, because he is not English; he was born in Cardiff, which for your information happens to be in Wales

Not sure how you thought that a boy born of Rwandan parents that fled to the UK seemed like a normal English boy; maybe you’ve never been to England.

Ah, the fanatically left wing, farcically named ‘Independent’ … must try harder, Mr Wokester

Would you be good enough to PM me with the contact details of your supplier; mine hasn’t got anything like the gear you’re obviously on.

Would you be good enough to pass this little gem of information on to the military leaders of Hamas, they didn't get the memo …. thank you kindly

It's Eden Hazard

Received a package last week of some underwear and a couple of expensive shirts, sent by a friend in the UK. They put £25 on the declaration form (having removed all price tags) and the package was delivered to my house, with a letter showing a scan code to pay 14 Baht Don’t know how that was calculated, but I received the delivery without having to pay first.

Nonsense; he needs to be lowered into a tree shredder …… feet first, slowly

I think It’s a dyslexia spelling of paedo