torrzent

Can't be bothered to read as way too long.....can you get the original story and the latest post down to twitter length.  That is the attention span of most in these gadget oriented days.

1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said:

I don't think a fight with Wilder would be as slow as that one :)

I'd prefer Dylan Whyte to knockout out Wilder 1st and then have an all British unification bout !! Fingers crossed...

So glad I didn't bother to stay up to watch these sub-standard pugilists.  The news reports say it was a handsbag at dawn wrestling match.   Parker is basically a human punching bag and  the heavyweight division is a mess these days, with none of the champs being truly world class by historical standards.  Joshua is also a very clunky awkward fighter with lousy footwork, and no combos or power, with shades of the hapless Frank Bruno thrown in.  Although I do not like Wilder either, I see him beating either of these chumps by KO.  Hopefully there are better fighters on the horizon.

On 3/31/2018 at 7:46 AM, torrzent said:

Lots of false assumptions here.  Since there isn't world class boxing every weekend (usually there is a decent fight once every 2-3 months), this means you are watching inferior stuff which is why you do not recognize quality. I don't name check anything..... I know it all already, unlike you with your lack of historical perspective.  None of those boxers you mention is "decent" and Parker is a typical stage managed fighter, who will be outed by Joshua on fight night.  Having a decent chin only makes him a human punching bag.  The heavyweight decision is a mess these days, with none of the champs being truly world class by historical standards.

So glad I didn't bother to stay up to watch these sub-standard pugilists.  The news reports say it was a handsbag at dawn wrestling match.  As noted above, Parker is basically a "human punching bag" and  also "The heavyweight decision is a mess these days, with none of the champs being truly world class by historical standards."  Joshua is also a very clunky awkward fighter with lousy footwork, and no combos or power, with shades of the hapless Frank Bruno thrown in.  Although I do not like Wilder either, I see him beating either of these chumps by KO.  Hopefully there are better fighters on the horizon.

9 hours ago, jackdd said:

This might surprise you: Studying is free in for example Germany and also in other countries

Yes I was aware of that.  That is why you have 45 year olds who have been working on the PHDs for 20 years already with no end in sight.  This kind of system is a disincentive to achievement.

4 hours ago, Acemaker said:

Hmm, or is it because you aint any of the above ?

Cue Grouch Marx....I would not want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member.  I'll give my place to you okay?

3 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Yes there are - for those in the know 

This is fake news.  I have heard of fake olive oil, but there are no fake olives, sounds like a marketing tactic for a resto....or maybe you would like to pony up the evidence?

5 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

I have already informed you- I have no intention to do your research for you.  None of my statements are false. I am very secure and confident in my premise as I have decades of personal experience on the subject. You will never change my mind and I am sure I will never change yours. I shall no longer waste time  on trying o convince you to open your mind to new ideas.

I wish the patient in this thread the best and a full recovery and to ignore anyone who tries to blame him for his circumstances.

Thank you for finally admitting after dozens of posts that this issue is about an unfortunate person who had an accident, and not about your high-falutin Unesco style ideas based on decades of unsubstantiated "experience", unsupported by facts or research

13 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

or you do a home cooked sauce with lobster, real olives etc. 

Are there fake olives?????

10 hours ago, Thaidream said:

Since when do I have to do your research for you- I did mine decades ago and have a Master's Degree to show for it. You have nothing except an opinion and you cannot show any research to disprove my opinion. Admit it- your are out of your element. You cannot argue a point except through personal attacks. 

 

This thread is about medical issues and I will not engage in personal attacks as I Mentioned before  -it is not about your or me. Continue your personal attacks if you desire because you certainly have no ability to respond in an intelligent way.  

Not sure why you have to resort to ad hominem attacks.  You have made alot of false points and have no back up data.  When you have done that, come back and share it for peer analysis.  Lots of people with Master's these days, not impressed at all.  With my Doctorate, you are right that I am well above your element!

41 minutes ago, Letseng said:

Australia is not the world. Just one country. Ever considered that different countries have different requirements? 

 

No one ever said it was.  One counter-example is all that is necessary to disprove a false statement.  This was provided.  Lots of other examples, but I 'll let you hunt those down.

9 hours ago, RickG16 said:

I watch boxing every weekend and I don't base my opinions on what someone looks like.  I base it on resumes and performances. Andy Ruiz,  Carlos Takam and Hughie Fury are all at least 'decent'. 

 

The fact you name checked Savarese says to me you are out of touch and probably haven't watched much boxing since the Tyson days. 

 

I'm not saying Parker will win, but if you call him a tomato can you are misunderstanding the term tomato can and the type of fighter it refers to.  Definitely not one with Parker's record / chin. 

Lots of false assumptions here.  Since there isn't world class boxing every weekend (usually there is a decent fight once every 2-3 months), this means you are watching inferior stuff which is why you do not recognize quality. I don't name check anything..... I know it all already, unlike you with your lack of historical perspective.  None of those boxers you mention is "decent" and Parker is a typical stage managed fighter, who will be outed by Joshua on fight night.  Having a decent chin only makes him a human punching bag.  The heavyweight decision is a mess these days, with none of the champs being truly world class by historical standards.

22 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

I have not attacked you personally but merely disagreed with your message.   You want to disagree with my point of view- fine but I would suggest you stop the personal attacks - Your last post was irrational and I expect an apology!!!

Oh cry me a river! Your maudlin unapologetic trolling and suggestions are too much.  Your ideas don't wash and have been called out.  Nothing personal about it.  You haven't provided any of the requested data to back your opinion. I have tried to help you by offering kind advice, but I cannot educate those who can't be educated or who are delusional.   I expect your apology for your wasting my time.

3 minutes ago, Letseng said:

No bananas are grown where I come from. Australia grows bananas. Aussies seem to be slow learners if they need 14 years in medical school. 

 

 

You are obviously trolling.  Click the link it is all there.

2 hours ago, RickG16 said:

What do you base that on? He's undefeated and never been knocked down.

Do your research.  He has never beaten anyone decent.  Looks like a typical low end bar room guy!  But you can watch the fight and see what I mean.  He kind of reminds me of Lou Savarese!

7 hours ago, Thaidream said:

It's not about me or you - it's about creating a society in which people get the healthcare they need regardless of whether they have money; who they are; where they are or any other extraneous factor.

 

It's also about creating a caring society in which people can float ideas, have them examined and adopted without being attacked  or labelled. 

 

It's a sad commentary on the state of the World- when providing free healthcare is considered revolutionary.  Unbelievable!!!

What is more unbelievable is that people like you exist.  You sound like a UNESCO project gone wrong!

6 hours ago, Letseng said:

Where on earth do you go to medical school for 10 years?

Maybe not in the banana republic you are from!

https://www.myhealthcareer.com.au/medicine/how-long-does-it-take-to-become-a-doctor

It’s an absolute minimum of 10 years following entry from high school….. but it’s not unusual to take 12 to 14 years.

1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

If I was in charge the World would be compassionate- there would be no homeless- there would be no poverty and I would make sure people like you and your ilk paid  for it.

Don't believe me- continue to pay and castigate those who can't but as sure as the sun rises  and  sets- what I propose will come ...People are fed up with the current system.  Nuff said!!!

Not sure what koolaid you are drinking, but once you wake up from your fantasy you will have a nasty headache!

Thank god you will never be in charge of anything except your revolutionary fantasies, so the world can carry on with its usual business.

21 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

I did not indicate everything in life should be free- but I do believe that prices are way too high for medical care and it is driven by for profit insurance; for profit hospitals and doctors and pharmaceutical companies as well as for profit medical schools.  While doctors and technicians should be paid a fair wage- they should not be paid as they are now. Any yes- I would make medical schools lower their tuition and pay for it by the Government. I would also indicate that people in the medial industry who get free medical training be sent to areas which are rural and lacking in medical personnel to pay back their free training.

 

In addition, I would force the Pharmaceutical industry to lower their prices and if they  refused I would break their patents and establish a Government Pharmaceutical Industry and make the drug at cost.  

 

In addition, I would indemnify medical personnel against law suits and take the lawyers out of the equation. Costly lawsuits-many which have no merit- have caused a huge increase in medical care.

 

As far as research- I can assure you I know this subject well. I have a background in Insurance; have worked in Hospitals and know exactly how they work and how the pricing is done. I would suggest those who doubt any of what I say do your own research- I have no intention of doing it for you. And if you don't believe me- no problem- continue to  pay and pay.

 

Until the World accepts the fact that healthcare is a human right guaranteed by the United Nations Declaration of Rights nothing will change. Your Governments will tax you and use your money for bombs and bullets; for profit doctors and hospitals will become  hugely wealthy; the pharmaceutical industry will limit your access to life saving drugs and a certain portion of  your fellow citizens will die because of this.

 

Is this really the World  you want?

The current world is preferable to the one you advocate.  Thank god you are not in charge.

16 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

Sorry- not correct $50K will go along way in Thailand for a catastrophic event- I know, I have used Thai Healthcare for  a family member.-surgery and chemotherapy.

However, the point is that medical care everywhere is too high under a for profit system- the hospital; the doctors; the insurance company; the pharmaceutical industry are all charging a percentage of profit to treat a patient and most of these charges are way over the top.

Take the profit out of healthcare and making money off the misery of others and you will see reasonable costs which people can afford or governments can pay. The current system is morally and ethically bankrupt and must be changed.

The end result is that no one will pay thousands to go to medical school for 7-10 years as  they won't make any money...oh wait, lemme guess....you are going to say that should be free as well.  Guess what?  If everything is free in your utopian world, no-one will do anything!    Rather than using limited personal experience from one case, do some real research and report back for peer analysis on a separate thread.  The feedback will be interesting.

12 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

I had to pay Medicare tax and built up a nest eg of $50,000. This was my own money taken from my salary- yet I cannot use these monies anywhere except in the US where a for profit system would eat up these monies quickly. Yet, if I used these monies in Thailand it would cover most catastrophic medical issues.

50k would not go far for first rate treatment of a "catastrophic" event.  That is why there are so many gofundme stories. 

Had to brace myself before reading this story which went down to the wire.

23 hours ago, mikebell said:

Daft farangs pay thousands and fly from the ends of the earth to see Thai girls in wet T-shirts.  Pattaya Traditionally extends its festivities for extra days to accommodate these knibheads (deliberate spelling error.)

Never heard of anyone who pays thousands to fly around the world to see wet t-shirts..

6 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

It will work as long as  there are certain parameters attached to it.  The Homeless; people out of work etc would not have to pay anything as they are not working.  Every country has a tax base and a budget.  

I am not advocating allowing people to go to other countries to get medical care, but I am questioning why someone on a holiday cannot get their Government to pay for their medical care. Again, taxes are paid to provide services to their citizens. Why pay taxes or even have Governments if they don't do anything for their citizens?

 

If every country adhered to the same plan- medical costs in high cost countries like the US would plummet. Medical costs are kept high by Greedy hospital and doctors and Big Pharma in collusion with Insurance companies.  All of these entities are getting rich off the suffering of others.  Time to put a stop to it.

The devil is in the details, which is why these high-falutin ideas like this never work. For instance you say, people on "holiday".  This is nonsensical as any trip by anyone, anywhere, could be defined as a "holiday".  Fortunately the world is not run by these types of idealistic plans which would never work. 

3 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

If he can get plenty of medical care at no charge in the UK- why won't the UK simply pay the Thai Hospital direct and allow him to recuperate in Thailand rather than force him to return to the UK.  

 

The solution to these situations is so simple- it is greedy Governments who keep taxing their citizens and doing nothing for them that is the problem.  Some of you people are brainwashed- I could care less if it is Socialism or called anything else. Medical care is a human right and it's time for people to force their Governments to provide it for free simply because you have already paid for it.

 

Your idea would never work.  You say this is a human right, because people have paid for it.  What about people who haven't paid, such as homeless, unemployed etc.  Is it still a human right by your definition?  Also you say governments have to pay overseas bills for their citizens.  That is simply crazy. What if the patient is in a high cost medical area like the US?  Are the citizens of the patient's country on the hook for that as well? There would also be too many free riders and people milking the system with minor and/or fake ailments. Others would travel to high cost countries for expensive surgeries, since their government would pay.  Taxes would have to skyrocket everywhere to cover these expenses.  It would never work, in spite of your idea that it is a "human right".