JBChiangRai

There are 2 members here who had Premium EV’s, as Premium as you get in Thailand and both of us have bought BYD Seal Performance models. They are stunning cars, the quality is up there with the Premium cars. There are differences, smaller tyres, no air suspension, but better spec’s as standard with things like head-up displays, seat ventilation, heat rejecting panoramic roofs, premium audio which are all extra-cost on German Premium EV’s.

at the risk of repeating myself Put forward some rational points and I'll happily respond.

You never fail to disappoint. Two more useful, intelligent comments, replete with kindergarten emojis.

This price reduction campaign has backfired.

But he hasn't ever owned a BYD! One unnamed anti-EV guy's uninformed opinion. Stop the bus! I want to get off!

I think the McKinsey study is flawed and I'm not the only one. There is something very wrong about how they conducted it. Teslarati had this to say. It was then unsurprising that the findings of McKinsey’s study have been received with skepticism by electric vehicle advocates. In social media platforms such as X, avid EV fans have noted that the survey’s findings are quite interesting because they do not reflect their everyday EV ownership experience. One of the most notable points surrounding EVs, after all, is the idea that drivers who experience electric vehicles typically don’t go back to combustion-powered cars. This was the whole idea behind the Tesla community’s “butts in seats” efforts in the past. It was not just members of the electric vehicle community that were surprised by the results of the survey. In a comment to Automotive News, Philipp Kampshoff, leader of McKinsey’s Center for Future Mobility, noted that he did not expect such a large number of respondents to state that they would likely shift back to a combustion-powered car. “I didn’t expect that. I thought, ‘Once an EV buyer, always an EV buyer,'” he told the publication. Other notable findings from McKinsey’s survey suggest that car buyers are quite interested in electric vehicles, with 38% of respondents globally who are currently not driving an EV stating that they would consider a battery electric vehicle or a plug-in hybrid as their next vehicle. A respectable 59% of EV buyers would also like to use more digital connectivity services in the future.

I don't believe it. Thailand's experience is completely the opposite. I read about this in the BYD Seal Australia group and they were saying it's obviously fake.

Put forward some rational points and I'll happily respond. All we generally see from you is asinine comments that would normally come from a kindergarten child.

I live in hope that one day you will post something useful or at least, intelligent.

You used to need permission, not anymore.

I can't help wondering how they would be doing if Carlos Ghosn was still at the helm.

In March the ratings group S&P cut Nissan's credit rating to Junk. This week Nissan posted their results for the following 3 months. Nissan said its operating profit had collapsed 99% to 995m yen (225M THB) in the three months to 30 June, with worldwide sales flatlining at just under 800,000 units. Would you buy a Nissan today? Did you buy this year?

I would want a battery check on a car that had been stored for 2 years.

As the saying goes "Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer"

Boy Air & Sound, if they are still there, I haven't lived in Pattaya for 15 years.

There are rules and there are laws. There is no law saying you must not give electricity to PEA and take it back later. It is not theft. It is against their rules, they are most likely to change your meter, in theory, they could sue you for loss of income, but not theft. What you are talking about is impossible. All Grid-Tied inverters have anti-islanding, meaning they cannot operate when the PEA line goes down. Even a grid-tied inverter set to no export will operate exactly the same way, the moment the PEA line goes down they shut down.

They did respond very quickly, they doubled their Anti-EV lobbying and misinformation budget.

There is no EV sales slump, there is an all types of car slump. EV's are growing relatively, taking a larger market share every month. February 7.4% of new cars were EV's March 10.6% April 10.8% May 12.1% June 13.4% of new cars were EV's. You know this Transam. The reason my EV went to BKK on a low loader was because there is only one authorised dealer in Thailand and my car was under warranty. If it was one of their ICE cars, it would have gone to BKK on a low loader too. The pressure sensor problem is well documented and eventually became part of recall after it failed in both ICE & EV's worldwide.

@Bandersnatch just posted this on the Electric Vehicles In Thailand Thread, it's worth watching as it tells you what is really happening, and more importantly, what the future is.

A coffee and a pee takes me 15-20 minutes. On Highway 1 there are fast Charging Stations (CS) every 20-30km, on the 118 between Chiang Rai and Chiang Mai there are 3. I have never encountered a broken CS. I have never encountered a queue for a CS, there are always at least 2 Charging points and often 4. All the CS I have seen have a CCS2 plug, which is the standard here. There are very few Chademo CS but I don't think anyone sells cars with that type of socket here anymore. My bank card is set up already, I just plug in and scan the QR code on the CS and I've added 300-400km in that 20 minutes. I'm not sure on efficiency, I believe EV's are about 90% efficient allowing for charging and driving. I love waking up in the morning to a full charge, I save about 5 hours every year not visiting petrol stations anymore.

With a spinning disc meter it is possible to use PEA as a battery and spin the disc backwards during the day and forward at night. PEA don't like it, it is not illegal but it is against their rules and if they catch you they will fit a digital meter which prevents this. PEA are slowly changing all meters to digital, so it's a lottery how long you can do this. Generally, payback is about 3 years. In Chiang Rai, myself and 3 other friends all do this. It does take some management, I have to turn off my solar system on meter reading day, and when my meter is changed to digital, I will have to set my system to "no-export". This method depends entirely on your appetite for risk.

I guess your nearest charging stations (CS) is at Robinsons? I have used that one. My home is a few hundred meters from the transformer and we often lose one phase. One of the advantages of an EV is I just plug my house into the car when I get home. I had a sparky fit a little gubbins and when there is a powercut, half a second later I am running off the car. PEA told me they will double the size of the local transformer because there are a few EV's charging from it now. Most of the local CS are at hotels, coffee shops etc, in Chiang Rai some of them are free. On the major highways the fast CS are every 20-30km. You don't need a CS any nearer than 150km to your home if you can charge at home (250km on some cars). A few countries have tried Hydrogen and consumers didn't like it in any of them. The main issue is cost. Hydrogen costs about 4 times more than charging an EV and that's an unsolvable major issue without subsidies. Storage in the car is also a major issue, the tanks take up vast amounts of space and in the Toyota Mirai the rear seats are only suitable for children. Another issue is time to refill, it's generally about 5 minutes, but often people are waiting another 15 minutes for the nozzle to deice so they can remove it from their car, that would probably be less of an issue in a hot country like Thailand, but it was a major issue in Norway. Availability was the short- term issue with too few Hydrogen stations, in time that could be fixed if consumer adoption had taken place. The barrier for most people is cost. We are very fortunate in Thailand in so far as there are no punitive taxes on Chinese EV's. They are good value for money here. Thailand and Norway lead the world. Demand is growing in Thailand, every month the share of new passenger cars being EV's increases and every month the share of new passenger cars being ICE decreases. That is true for the last 5 months. The flame for EV's here is burning brighter every month. America has recognised the potential for Chinese EV's to destroy American Auto Manufacturers and applied immense tariffs. This is sad for consumers. Rishi Sunak set EV adoption back 5 years in the UK, his successor Keir Starmer is being urged to restore it, time will tell.

That may be true, but more than one in eight new cars sold is currently an EV. I’m sure you are seeing them everywhere on the roads. Do you deny climate change too?

Do you have a spinning disc meter? If so 3 to 6Kw will save you 40 to 80% If you have a digital meter it’s a bit more complicated

Do you really believe all that?