JBChiangRai

I'm not sure I understand you, could you repeat it in English? The same problem on my car affected the ICE cars from the same manufacturer. The OEM who provided the pressure sensors for the aircon on all their cars sent them a bad batch. I wasn't happy, that is true, but I present it as it is, not selectively as you suggested. I am including all RY1 category of EV's and RY1 category of ICE, apples to apples. The figures came from @ExpatOilWorker, they are in the same format we have been using for many months. i think it may be autolife or DLT who provide them, I'm sure he can elucidate. Probably under 1%, There are 2.5 billion cars on the road worldwide. Currently more than 1 in 8 new car sales is EV in Thailand.

They would be interesting if it were true. I have said on several occasions my pure EV German car let me down twice, both times air conditioning blowing hot. It had to be trailered back from Chiang Rai to the authorised agent both times.

And once we start seeing EV pickups then we should compare them too.

Because the numbers are meaningless. We are talking about EV's and their ICE equivalents, not buses, trams, hedge cutters, tractors, steam rollers and god knows what else. RY 1 with RY 1 please!

For a bean counter you sure do like to fudge numbers. The EV figures are for R.Y. 1 too, so let's compare apples to apples please. R.Y. 1 EV's to R.Y. 1 ICE cars, that is exactly what I did.

Is that what you call "a self-portrait" ?

The Trend is the ONLY important metric. In the words of the famous pilot Sullenberger, "Let's get real shall we" The numbers Vinny posted is not for motor cars, they include tractors, buses and god knows what else. Let's compare apples with apples, specifically EV motor cars/pickups with ICE motor cars/pickups February 7.4% of new cars were EV's March 10.6% April 10.8% May 12.1% June 13.4% of new cars were EV's. Have you noticed a trend? You said you would like to see the numbers, so here they are, apples with apples, not apples with the fruit truck The Trend is the only important metric. if you start thinking the number of registrations for EV's dropped in April you could erroneously think, people swung away from EV's, whereas in reality a greater percentage of people departed the ICE route and chose an EV. Thanks to @ExpatOilWorker for the excellent charts.

The trend is for buyers to change from ICE to EV, the percentages tell you that, the numbers for EV's alone don't tell you anything.

Between January and June, BMW Group Thailand saw an over 40% surge in EV sales

I think it's a bargain at 671,000 baht, I loved that car.

I think I already explained I listed it for a very high price before I was ready to sell it, and when my new car arrived I set it at a realistic price. You know this Vinny. The car lost a very respectable 21% in its first year, inline with an ICE car.

Brakes, power steering, air con compressors all driven from electric on an EV

So your condo has 1 space for every 4 rooms, and this is what you said on the other thread in March last year No way I would be buying into or renting a condo which did not allocate parking of one slot per apartment. Where is your integrity now?

Actually, I agree with you, but it won't be specific to EV's, it will be to the auto industry as a whole.

It has stickers on the side, that reminds of someone else with stickers over his jalopy, who could that be I wonder?

Me too, I took the gamble, though I played safe & bought a PHEV first and then thought why do I need this heavy ICE & Gearbox? so bought EV's after that.

I don't believe he has ever been in an EV, he believes they don't corner, handle well or be fun to drive when the truth is the opposite. I don't believe he will buy anything as he describes, I look forward to seeing him post photos of what he buys (if he can). I think he's a dreamer and an EV troll. Prove me wrong @kwak250

Of course it's not a threat, it's a recommendation that you try to post honestly with integrity.

Your condo does not have allocated parking, you have an access sticker to the car park. Your condo has spaces for 25% of the rooms there, which is what the previous thread was about. I used to live in a condo in Pattaya, we did have allocated parking. We had one space per room, allocated. You need to remember that sitting behind your keyboard you still risk being caught out in a lie. The internet is not as anonymous as you may think.

You are very judgmental. I have never tried to impress you nor would I try to impress you with anything. You lost my respect when on another thread you said you would never live in a condo unless it had allocated parking, when in fact you do live in one without allocated parking. Integrity is important to me. The post I was replying to was "The way you're fighting the EV corner seems like you've bought one of the pieces of c*** and are trying to justify the mistake to yourself 😂" I bought 5, that is hardly the behaviour of someone who thinks buying any of them was a mistake. I know of at least 2 other members here who have bought 2 or more EV's.

We had my daughters MG4 serviced yesterday, they said the battery voltage was 483v (if I remember right) they said anything over 450v is good. They charged 1,600 baht, which I think was for a HEPA filter for the cabin. I have ordered one on Lazada for 320 baht, they won't be fitting one next time. On that subject, does anyone know how to change the cabin air filter?

I used to ride a Kawasaki Versys here in Thailand. Too many of my friends have been killed on their bikes, I found I was using it less and less, worrying about the unpredictable Somchai, so I sold it. I have a scooter now but I only use it riding around the housing estate where I live. I saw a fatal accident at the weekend. Mostly due to a bad road design, a U-Turn from the outside lane 200m before traffic lights, no filter lane. A motorbike was trying to use the U-Turn, Somchai in his pickup thought the right indicator of the bike was for the lights 200m further and wiped him out. Hundreds of flowers on the central reservation yesterday. It's not worth riding on public roads here. I know of at least half a dozen people killed in Chiang Rai on their bikes.

A well thought out and reasoned post. "Most people who have them wish they did not" can I have some of whatever it is you're smoking? It's very sad. Some of us were born poor but through initiative, risking everything they had and more than a little hard work became comfortably off. Whilst others don't take risks in their lives and work the 9 to 5, rising to the top if they have good qualities or retiring poor if they were generally unpopular people with personality defects who think those who made it in life are as "shallow as a mud puddle". It is not about the numbers, it is about the trend. In their first year Tesla sold 100 cars, they were all pre-ordered many for longer than a year. In their second year they sold 900 cars. If you look at the numbers as @vinny41 would have us do, you would say pfft, it's nothing, insignificant compared to the millions of ICE cars sold. However, if you look at the trend, it points to what is important, people were switching their allegiance from ICE to EV. It's the same with BMW, their EV sales increase in the article is 40%. That is the trend. If we look at all EV sales in Thailand, a similar pattern emerges. You have to look at EV sales compared to ICE cars. You can't look at EV sales alone. So the best metric for buyer behaviour is to look at all the new cars sold and in particular look at the percentage of EV's out of the whole and the percentage of ICE as a whole. January is unusual and had to be discounted for obvious reasons (subsidy ending and big push to register 2023 cars). So we have February, March, April, May & June. In each of those months the market share of EV's increased over the previous month and correspondingly, the market share of ICE cars decreased each month. The trend is clear, of all those people choosing to buy a new car, a greater percentage of them every month chose an EV over an ICE. Why are people choosing EV's over ICE? The advantages are clear, they cost 20% of an ICE car to refuel. You can wake up every morning to a full tank. They drive better, they are as quiet as a Rolls Royce, there is no vibration from the engine. They are fast, there is a direct relationship between acceleration & pleasure. In Thailand, they cost about the same. Why are people choosing ICE over EV? It's either FUD (fear uncertainty & doubt) over things like Will the battery fail? Will it catch fire? Will it depreciate really badly? Can I make long trips? Or it could be that their usage pattern makes it more difficult to own an EV, they may live in a condo, most of their trips are long distance. The other reason is VFM, Value for Money (but not in Thailand). America and EU apply tariffs on Chinese EV's, so the great VFM advantage disappears. FUD & the battery issue is being addressed by manufacturers, MG just gave a lifetime warranty on their batteries, others may follow suit. Catching fire is about education, it's a fact proven with statistics from several countries that EV's catch fire a lot less than ICE cars, more than 10 times less. Depreciation in some countries is an issue, in Thailand and Norway it isn't. I recently sold an MG EP+ and I had to fight off potential buyers, it sold to the first caller. I am looking for a second-hand ORA Good Cat for one of my daughters, they are too expensive for me, I will probably buy new. I have a 76 year old lady friend. A couple of months back she bought a new MG4 X-Power, she can't charge at home as she lives off grid. She goes to PTT and fast charges her car whilst she has a coffee in Amazon, it suits her lifestyle but it doesn't suit everybody. She doesn't think twice about driving to Chiang Mai for a weekend. As more and more people switch to EV's their friends and neighbours see they have them and hear good reports and they make the switch too. Look at California and Norway. Thailand is leading the way in Asia for a very simple reason. You can buy a high-quality Chinese EV at the same price or less than an ICE equivalent because there are no tariffs. There are a lot of us on this forum who drive EV's, we are not all stupid.

I don’t believe you, it’s clear you haven’t as you don’t know what you’re talking about. EV’s corner as well or better than ICE because of the low center of gravity. The BYD Seal Performance is set up to drift and steer by throttle.

Damn, I must be forgetting too, I’ve bought 1 Mercedes PHEV, then a Porsche EV, then 2 MG EV’s and now a BYD EV. I did give a couple of those away to my daughters.