Chomper Higgot

I very much doubt Israel will mount a ground offensive. The first, rational, question to ask is did Hamas plan this with intent to provoke a ground offensive? Israeli Intelligence failed to detect the planned attack and/or the military leadership failed to understand the available intelligence. The next question to ask is what is Hamas’ state of readiness for the Israeli response. Israeli Intelligence have demonstrably failed once, only idiocy or desperation would plan a ground offensive under conditions of failed Intelligence. Of course Netanyahu might be both, or simply desperate to do something. The families of Israeli Military personnel are surely hoping clearer heads are in command.

And nothing forced Hamas to make this attack which they absolutely know will result in an Israeli response that will cost the lives of Palestinians. There are no indications Hamas acts in any sense for the interests of the Palestinians. Hamas made a plan of attack in which the lives of Palestinians that will be lost are expendable to that plan. I doubt they even did the math.

Perhaps there’s a reason for your failure to comprehend my post. It and I do not imply even in the slightest that Netanyahu is in anyway responsible for this Hamas attack on Israel. Nor does my post nor I in anyway support Palestine, or Hamas for that matter. ‘Extreme leftist’? ’More antisemitism from the left’? I’ll be kind Jonny. Perhaps you were intending to respond to another post and another member, mistakes in quoting do happen. Misreading and misrepresentation of posts and members expressed views happens too, occasionally by mistake.

Pinned.

And if your string of assumptions are as false as they are baseless, the entirety of your argument evaporates.

Asylum isn’t automatically awarded, there’s a review process.

That’ll get sorted at the next election.

Triggered response?

Agreed. But perhaps the objectives were not clear to all, or the initial success was just as much a surprise to the Hamas fighters who then got carried away with a bit of enthusiasm driven mission creep. Hamas commanders are sure aware of how long it takes/how quickly Israel can bring troops to combat an attack. They must also be very aware that Israel will respond with overwhelming force, a clearly understood outcome before the first rockets were launched. Whatever Hamas’ objectives, Palestinian civilians are expendable in their plan.

The success was in no small part due to the failure of Israel’s Intelligence Services.

Tin foil hat alert.

You people who want to be free and work for a better life. Sounds like the American Dream to me.

It also requires having valid travel documents, often denied to people who are being oppressed by their government. So that would make their traveling across a border to seek asylum illegal too. Except it doesn’t.

Skipped epidemiology class then?!

I wonder if ‘Trump’s wall’ will be called Biden’s wall?

Refer top of World News page: ”Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.”

Excellent. Unfortunately a large number innocents have and will pay a heavy price for those political maneuvers.

Yet to be learned. How many eyes for an eye and teeth for a tooth.

Unless to seek asylum where that nation is a signatory to the international convention on refugees.

People seeking asylum is a thing. Illegal entry to seek asylum is not. People fleeing oppression to a new life in America is definitely a thing.

Illegally entering to seek asylum is not a thing. Entering to seek asylum is not illegal.

No it is not.

There is absolutely no requirement or compulsion under the international treaties to which the US is a signatory that someone fleeing oppression must seek asylum in the first safe place they arrive. Do I need to repeat that 9 more times?

It all depends on the reason for entry. Entering to seek asylum is not illegal, I think I’ve explained that to you a few times in the past.

We should have a thread on ‘Is AI Objective’.