Chomper Higgot

I prefer ‘Never say Never’

Against threats to France, yes, I get your point.

It’s not over yet. The UK has an interim trade and customs deal with the EU, it will be re-negotiated in 2026.

Because that’s the future. The predominantly old people who voted for Brexit aren’t going to be around much longer. At the very least there are sound economic reasons for the UK rejoining the Customs Union.

A false equivalence.

Why on earth should France stop them? France has no such obligation.

Let’s cut the pretense that this is somehow an unexpected outcome that needs any explanation beyond ‘Brexit’. The impact of Brexit on cross channel traffic was widely predicted (refer your ‘Project Fear’ files). The British Government knew it was going to happen, they built massive lorry parks near the ports in readiness for the delays they knew Brexit would cause. Nor are these delays and jams new, they’ve been happening daily since Brexit, they are in the news now because of the scale of the problem over a couple of days, but they are now routine in cross channel traffic. The bill for this Brexit created costs and delays is being paid by the UK economy. And it gets worse. The UK have not yet implemented the border controls that Brexit necessitates. There is absolutely no reason why any EU nation needs to check goods arriving at their own borders if those goods are destined to be shipped directly to the UK. (Their duty to do so was removed with Brexit). By example, a container can arrive from anywhere in the world at a French port, then be put on a lorry without being checked and trucked across The channel to the UK, where it won’t be checked. No taxes and duties being collected, no safety/security checks. The UK got its borders back, then immediately lost control of them.

Well the UK has its own lorry parks around the ports. I wonder why they suddenly became necessary? I wonder too how much the post Brexit paperwork and delays are costing the UK economy?

I wonder what introducing tax cuts into an economy already experiencing painfully high inflation will do?

Oh, so all that extra paperwork for freight lorries, nothing to do with Brexit. And perhaps you never travelled this route pre-Brexit, it was never a mess like this.

Here’s the salient bit. All of the checks and the delays associated with the checks are a direct result of checks being necessary. The checks are necessary because the UK chose a hard Brexit. And it’s going to get worse, biometric checks are being introduced later this year. Luvly-Jubly.

Are sure about that? https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-loses-foreign-investment-crown-to-france-after-two-decades-at-top-57cllp0g9

From the article you have linked: “But EuroTunnel responded by saying the incident had absolutely nothing to do with a malfunction on its end. Its director of public affairs John Keefe told the BBC: ‘The incident at the port started overnight well before a minor technical incident in the Channel Tunnel. ‘There is absolutely no correlation between the two. It had absolutely nothing to do with problems at the Port of Dover.’”

How about staying on topic?!

The UK has accepted its obligations, regardless of the nationality of the people employed to do the UK’s work at the EU. Perhaps someone should ask Farage to forego his EU pension.

This is the kind of nonsense delivers Governments that are not representative of the people by means of deterring voter participation. There are very clear differences between the major parties, the one in power has a record of corruption, law breaking and incompetence.

I predict more indictments coming down the pike.

Labour are not the subject of this thread, nor are ward roundly supported by both sides of the house. Johnson destroyed himself, it was his own party that voted to get rid of him after Tories were smashed in two bi-elections. But yes I get your point. It’s always somebody else’s fault.

If I may correct you. First time convicted. His last crimes were pardoned by his coconspirator.

If I may correct you. First time convicted. His last crimes were pardoned by his coconspirator.

It’s money paid into the EU pension scheme for British members of the EU Parliament (Farage is an example) and the staff employed to perform the UK’s share of EU work.

Recognizing the nation is in crisis is a good thing. Now all he needs to do is accept the part he and the Government he served in has had in causing that crisis.

The Tories have had 12 years and look at the result. Fairytale policies aren’t the answer.

The inflation and cuts in public services Truss’s policies will bring with them will certainly be a nightmare for the millions of people in the UK struggling with the cost of living crisis. I don’t see the electorate warming to that.

OK, so you don’t have any evidence to back up your claim ( in your own words): “Now you are claiming that covid testing kits are useless and waste of money” You don’t even have evidence of me mentioning ‘COVID-19 Test Kits’. You’ve got nothing, you’ve made assertions that you can’t back up. For some reason you can’t bring yourself to admit you made a baseless accusation. Retract, you’ll feel better for doing the right thing.