Chomper Higgot

Or at least that’s the way you tell it.

You mean the victim blaming kind of feel?

With references to a damage assessment.

The house defense committee has a duty of oversight and a right to examine intel evidence.

That’s what an increasing number of reports are confirming.

Perhaps those claims of ‘obliteration’ were a little premature.

To be fair to Trump, and in recognition of the need not to try to read between the lines of what he says, he never actually said” “Hey Iran, we’ve got some bunker busting bombs that we are going to drop on your underground nuclear facilities, it might be an idea to relocated stuff you don’t want to lose”.

I think little details like this matter: “The DIA assessment also found that much of Iran’s stockpile of highly enriched uranium, which would provide the fuel for making any future nuclear warhead, had been moved before the strikes and may have been moved to other secret nuclear sites maintained by Iran.” “Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo” It seems there wasn’t enough surprise. Maybe someone ran their mouth.

Well thanks for your spirited defense of the obviously exaggerated claims of ‘mission success’ We can now all enjoy the walk back: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/25/trump-and-hegseth-admit-doubts-over-irans-nuclear-sites-damage-by-us-strikes

You are seemingly unaware that Trump is not deporting actual convicted foreign criminals. These people remain in prison where they ‘usefully’ churn tax payers money into the pockets of the prison industry.

A link has been provided in this thread in which the IAEA stated Iran informed them that they had taken steps to protect materials and equipment. I expect the appreciated being given a ‘heads up’.

Here’s interesting. The IAEA stated, on June 13 Iran informed them it would take "special measures" to protect its nuclear materials and equipment. This seems entirely reasonable given uranium’s highly toxic properties. The IAEA has a mandate to monitor compliance to the non proliferation treaty, but under the circumstances of Israel and the U.S. attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities it’s not at all unreasonable for Iran not to provide anyone with information on where materials and equipment have been moved to. The attacks on Iran’s nuclear program have provided Iran a very strong argument for denying all foreign access to whatever remains of the program, equipment and materials. The success or failure of a bombing raid must surely rest on its overall impact, not simply the physical damage that, in any case, seems not to be as severe as first claimed.

Even the rabidly rightwing press are only claiming the attack ‘may have’ caused a ‘set back’. I guess we ought really start listening to what the professionals in the Intelligence Community are telling us, be that leaked or otherwise.

Trump ignored the testimony of the U.S. DNI, stating Gabbard was ‘wrong’ about Iran. His spokesperson is now disputing the US Defense Intelligence damage assessment. This begs a few questions. On what intelligence basis did Trump authorize the attack on Iran? On what intelligence basis did Trump claim complete obliteration of Iran’s nuclear program? Why should anyone not believe the Defense Intelligence Damage Assessment?

Back to attacking the news bringer I see. Let’s have some of the promised transparency.

I’ve seen almost identical arguments before, but they were not discussing terrorism. Well, not in the usual sense of the word.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Another failure passed on to Labour:

A nice bit of revisionism. The reality is the Tory Government had an unassailable majority in Parliament, no other party could challenge their Rwanda policy. It failed because it was ill conceived and in breach of UK law. £700,000,000 of tax payer’s money pished away deporting 4 migrants, all of whom were volunteers.

It wasn’t Labour that created the backlog.

At the very least I expect we are in for a spirited analysis based on microscopic examination of the semantics surrounding the term ‘lying’.

Here you go: ”"Our objective was the destruction of Iran's nuclear enrichment capacity and a stop to the nuclear threat," Trump said. "Tonight, I can report to the world that the strikes were a spectacular military success. Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated." https://www.npr.org/2025/06/21/nx-s1-5441127/iran-us-strike-nuclear-trump

Nice dodge.

Do you believe Iran will not retaliate? Do you believe Iran has the right to retaliate?

Utter hogwash. The RAF prevented the Luftwaffe gaining air superiority in the Battle of Britain, Goering then made the fatal error of redirecting the Luftwaffe from attacking the RAF bases to night bombing of UK cities. At no time after the Battle of Britain were the Luftwaffe in any position to provide the necessary air cover for an invasion of the UK. The extent of American involvement in the Battle of Britain was limited to the very welcome and much appreciated contribution of American volunteers within RAF ‘Eagle Squadrons’.