Chomper Higgot

It’ll be interesting to see what policy platforms the candidates opt for. Everything Truss came up with, the post Brexit opportunities and tax giveaways has been demonstrated not acceptable to the financial markets. So what are they going to come up with? Tory Austerity 2? Culture wars? Scapegoating migrants? WW2 and World Cup 66? They need something to distract the public, I wonder what it’ll be?

Let us know when you reach the ‘sunny uplands’.

So historical presence of a self declared Communist as a Guardian Columnists - You want to accept that as relevant. Historical support of Fascism by leading UK rightwing newspapers - You want to ignore that as relevant. Your arguments on this forum might be more persuasive if you didn’t keep going back to your ‘Hate The Guardian thing’. It’s clearly a fixation that distracts you from seeing the truth. And the on topic truth is, The Guardian’s reporting on Truss and her failings was spot on.

You fail to mention the subject article was a report on the front page stories of the British Press. Your ‘hate the Guardian thing’ got in the way of the facts being reported.

Erm no. But nice try.

The Guardian is an international newspaper, what has to say exists within ‘what the world says’ just as much as the CNN report at the top of this thread exists with ‘What the world says’. Oddly you’ve taken offense to what the Guardian has to say but not a squeak on what CNN have to say. Perhaps because The Guardian got Truss right from the get go.

Well yes, I personally want the Tories to go full term and stew in the mess of their own making.

Back to topic. The Guardian’s coverage of Truss and her obvious failings was spot on.

When did I say ‘I’m 2022’? Refer my comment ‘Historical facts’.

The have supported fascism in the past. Hence my comment ‘Historical facts’.

One self declared columnist does not make the Guardian a communist newspaper. The political direction of the paper is determined by the owners and the editor in chief. The Guardian is left of center, it cannot reasonably be called ‘extreme’ anything or ‘hard left’. The Guardian does rather well at winning journalism awards and has been the first publisher of many of the most important news stories of the past three decades. Getting you back on topic, The Guardian’s coverage of Truss, her leadership and her failings was spot on. Unlike the rightwing Press that supported Truss, The Guardian isn’t busy doing an about face right now.

It’s an accusation that can be justifiably laid against the Daily Mail, The Express and the Times. Historical facts.

I’m not in the least bit even worried.

Gove has stated he is not running, so has Hunt.

What history is that? Elections are fought on the issues of the day.

The challenge the Tories face is finding someone who is acceptable to both the moderate rightwing of the Party and the extremists in the ERG. Clearly the chosen candidate will have two jobs, get the Party back on an even keel and address the cost of living crisis ordinary people are facing, they need to achieve these objectives while reassuring the financial markets the UK is being Governed rationally. Common sense suggests that must be an experienced moderate, but is there any common sense left in the Tory Party? The results of dogmatic rightwing lunacy have already been demonstrated, don’t put too much faith in the idea that the Tories have somehow learned any lessons from the past few weeks.

Encouraging your voter base to believe the process is rigged against your party seems like a very good way to reduce their participation. Now all we need is the idea ‘I can vote simply by thinking about it’. Flippancy aside, deliberately undermining confidence in the electoral system is an attack on the very foundations of democracy.

The fast food and processed food industries spend $ tens of billions on advertising directly targeting children and young families, in the US fast food industry alone spends $5billion. And yet here we are blaming schools and young people. https://consumer.healthday.com/b-6-17-fast-food-companies-spending-more-money-on-ads-aimed-at-youth-2653321351.html https://www.fastfoodmarketing.org/fast_food_facts_in_brief.aspx

I don’t think for a moment that’s a consideration for the Parliamentary Conservative Party, but yes it is almost certainly an issue amongst the ‘Blue Rinse Set’. The Constituency Conservative Membership have already demonstrated how hopelessly out of touch they are.

Keep in mind the Privileges Committee investigation into Johnson kicks off next month. So if Johnson were selected he’d immediately be at risk of sanctions. And that’s apart from the obvious fact of him not having the support of voters out with the extreme right wing that has caused all these problems.

After Tory MPs had had their votes.

It was a rhetorical question, I wasn’t expecting an answer.

How does economic growth compare?

I’m for leaving the Tories to sort their own mess out. The Tories need to suffer the consequences of their own actions.

And the lack of growth, and failing companies, and trade barriers, and worker shortages (across all sectors especially, healthcare, social care and hospitality), and lack of market access…..the list goes on.