Chomper Higgot

Post trial cometary by Informed commentators (ie those who have real experience of prosecuting serious crimes) suggests that the prosecution deliberately limited the prosecution case in order to make a clear and simple case before the jury. Prince Andrew’s civil case brought by Virginia Giuffre is currently before the court. Immediately after the Maxwell verdict the judge in the Giuffe v Windsor case ordered that the Giuffe/Epstein settlement shall be unsealed on January 4th. So now Maxwell can hear the clock ticking, she has to calculate if she wants to cut a deal and give up information in exchange for leniency against the possibility that January 4th will reveal information that undermines her own value to prosecutors. There are other possibilities: Prosecutors might already have all of Maxwell’s information, or prosecutors might not willing to do a deal with her. The least likely scenario (imho) is prosecutors shutting down an investigation into such a high profile case with such widespread public interest.

‘The age of consent is not a ‘red herring argument’. As a general rule, if you come across a report or claim regarding a conspiracy check the validity before passing it on: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/fact-focus-misinformation-persists-after-maxwell-trial-ends/2021/12/31/78db7f86-69f8-11ec-9390-eae241f4c8b1_story.html

“As silly as an actress going to a producer's hotel room at midnight after drinks in a bar, and thinking it's really about a movie script.” ‘Silly’ you say, but it wasn’t actresses, it was minors trafficked for sex. And here you are blaming the victims.

The abused where minors at the time they were abused. As minors they cannot give consent to sex with an adult. A sexual abuser cannot ‘compensate’ a minor they have sexually abused. What you think she did or did not do is irrelevant, she had been found guilty by the jury in an open court of law. As for “Always seems to be years later, when they realize they can squeeze more money out of the system, by claiming 'abuse'.” Wrong again. Maxwell was charged and found guilty of heinous criminality, her prosecution was in a criminal court and has nothing to do with anyone seeking to ‘squeeze more money out of the system’. In short your comments are factually incorrect, blaming minors for the heinous crimes committed against them and offering cover for a vile sexual abuser. Let me repeat this because you clearly not get it: Adults committing sex acts with minors is always a crime, adults trafficking minors for sexual is always a crime. Have a word with yourself.

Thanks for posting, I enjoyed that.

The jury has found her guilty on four counts, she’s going to spend the rest of what was her gilded life behind bars: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/29/ghislaine-maxwell-sex-trafficking-trial-verdict

You mentioned ‘speculation’, and did so without an ounce of introspection.

Probability is calculated on the basis of factual data: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10344695/Unjabbed-people-catch-Covid-60-TIMES-likely-end-intensive-care.html

What is possible and what is probable are not the same thing. That said, anti-vaxxers not understanding or otherwise misrepresenting relative levels of probability is nothing new.

You are playing semantics. Vaccinations greatly reduce the probability of infection*, serious illness, hospitalization and death from COVID. The gap in infections, serious illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths between for vaccinated v unvaccinated individuals is what the vaccines have prevented. *For the record: No vaccine prevents infection, pick any vaccine for any virus; the virus has to enter the body (infect the body) before the immune system starts to fight it. Infection is not the measure of a vaccine’s success, vaccines are measured on their ability to prevent the diseases that arise when the infection gets past the immune system. Infection is not the same thing as disease. https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/vaccine-efficacy-effectiveness-and-protection https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/infectious-diseases/in-depth/germs/art-20045289

Why not just stick to the data on hospitalizations and deaths v vaccination status?

The vast majority of people at elevated risk are old - being old is not a personal choice. Provide your evidence that ‘the virus and its variants are a Chinese creation’. - Before doing so, refer the notification on misinformation at the top of this forum.

1. More cherry picking. 2. There’s no such thing as ‘COVID Prison’. 3. You have no idea of the vaccination status of the ‘Israeli guy’ - but don’t let that stop you making stuff up.

1. I’m not in fear of anyone. 2. You are injecting truth, you are cherry picking to misrepresent fact. 3. ‘Liberal new world order’ ‘Woke multicultural agenda’ - What on earth are you on about and whatever it is you are on about, what has it got to do with anything in this thread or even this sub-forum?

What’s this, the condo management are in league with communists to create a totalitarian regime. You could get a Pulitzer if this turns out to be true.

Once again cherry picking to misrepresent the fact the vaccines have prevented countless infections, serious illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths. One has to wonder what you get out of your constant efforts to undermine the truth of how effective the vaccines are.

The only authority they Condo committee has over residents is that stated in the Condominium’s rules and regulations. Ask them to provide you with the Condominium rule book highlighting where this requirement is recorded.

People scared of taking a jab of a safe and effective vaccine insinuating others are cowards is hypocrisy writ large.

“Considering the number of vaxxed and boosted people that are getting it is still not shown that a booster shot has much of an effect.” Unless of course you look at the incidence of serious illness, hospitalization and deaths. (All the stuff rational people wish to avoid).

“I am amazed about the number of cowardly old folk though. And whom appear to have no shame in displaying their fearful nature. When I was young, men didn't ever show fear.” Easy enough to call others cowards…. from behind your keyboard: https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/mid-south/102-year-old-wwii-hero-becomes-first-veteran-at-missouri-va-hospital-to-get-covid-vaccine/

Superstition of the Middle Ages was banished with science, the linked article is written by an adherent of 21st Century ‘Wellness’ superstitions attempting to banish science. It’s a stream of utter nonsense.

I don’t know anyone who is not ‘living their life’. Most people are doing exactly as TBL says, following the health guidelines, getting their shots and otherwise living their normal life to the extent they can. The author is of course not someone at higher risk from the disease or suffering any significant consequences of the public policy responses. She’s free to muse.

Answering the question ‘where did the white people on South Africa originate?’ will relieve you of your confusion. Nationality and Ethnicity are not the same thing.

I’m just going out for Christmas dinner, I’ll dig something out for you tomorrow

I would agree with that in general, but not entirely. Every single retired expat I know in Thailand who is financially secure lived and worked through those golden years when working people could make a good living, could save, could buy a home, could have a workplace pension. That ‘golden age’ is now gone. Very few ordinary working people are now able to save. wrt Thailand, savings are only one part of the equation. When I first came to Thailand a little over 30 years ago, Thailand had the highest distribution of land of any nation in Asia and arguably anywhere on the planet. Thai people might have been predominantly cash poor but they also predominantly owned land, owned their houses and could feed themselves. That changed when the ‘rice schemes’ brought about massive redistribution of land from the cash poor to the cash rich. 30 years ago an emergency meant going back to live cheaply on the farm. Tge farm has been sold or otherwise stripped away.