Chomper Higgot

Calling out broadcasted misinformation and misrepresentation of facts is never a waste of time.

Vaccines have done great everywhere, saving countless people from serious illness, hospitalization and death, plus all the associated medical costs and human grief.

Vaccines reduce infections, serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths. The reason for the Delta v Omicron disparity between SA and the UK/Denmark/Austria is the highly infectious Omicron originated in Africa and has established itself in SA, it has only just arrived in the UK, Denmark and Austria but it is rapidly gaining ground. There is no such thing as a ‘leaky vaccine’. As has repeatedly been pointed out to you, the conditions surrounding the spread of this virus and its variants are significantly different between SA and the UK, or anywhere else in Northern Europe or Scandinavia. Now, what was it you were saying about ‘intellectually incoherent’?

His downfall was Chelsie Manning being caught and the insuring investigation revealing Assange’s part in Manning’s crimes. His extradition has zero to do with crimes he is believed to have committed against Clinton, and if it had do you really think Tru p administration would have sought his extradition?

He’s indicted for conspiracy to illegally access US Military computer networks. Illegally accessing any computer network is not journalism it’s a crime. ….. Incidentally, he is not yet indicted from alleged crimes relating to the 2016 election. This raises a couple of questions: 1. Will he be indicted for those alleged crimes. 2. If indicted for alleged crimes beyond the terms of his extradition, would such and indictment and if convicted, result in him remaining in US prison rather than being returned to Australia? None of the crimes for which he is indicted (or suspected) are capital crimes, so can we dispense with the histrionics on execution.

Assange will get a trial in open court, he’ll have legal representation and Constitutional rights. The terms of his extradition preclude a death penalty. There will not be ‘a next Trump administration’, he too is heading for the slammer.

Yes very good. Vaccines that we’re not designed for the newly arrived variant of the virus.

The data on Omicron is being compiled and is at best only a few weeks old. Hiw dangerous’ it is to an individual is only part of the equation, also to be considered is how fast it is spreading and the rate that it is putting people into hospital or otherwise rendering them unfit for work or in need of medical support.

The summer winter comparison problem in your argument is ‘summer in SA v Winter in UK/Denmark’. Have another go.

See post above.

Again you completely ignore significant factors that are in play. It’s summer in SA, it’s winter in the UK and Denmark - As has been explained to you. Additionally, testing and reporting regimes between these nations are different. You are comparing ‘apples and oranges’ then predictably concluding on an answer that fits the narrative of your posting history.

I, and others, have pointed out the logical fallacies in your arguments, comments I have made that directly address the arguments you made. Your failure to address those logical fallacies is in no sense an embarrassment to me.

Show some proof then.

Again, misrepresentation of facts. The vaccination programs have dramatically reduced infections, serious illness, hospitalizations, and deaths. A new variant comes along for which the vaccines where not designed. The Uk’s vaccination program has been a very clear success, it has done what it was designed to do.

So now you are repeating the strawman argument that the vaccines designed for earlier variants (for which they dramatically reduced infections, serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths).

Without any consideration of what might account for the differing infection rates between SA and the UK, you jump to conclusions that, by chance, align with the points of view you have previously expressed. There is nothing on the comparison between the UK and SA that makes ‘a good case for natural immunity’. By example, it’s summertime in SA and winter in the UK, a seasonal difference that is accompanied by significant changes in how people spend there day, in doors or out and about in fresh air. And once again we see the Strawman, and frankly intellectually dishonest, argument regarding the vaccines in terms of the new strain of the virus. The vaccines administered where designed to combat earlier variants of the virus, not the new variant. As for your ‘possible deleterious effects’, present your evidence, or accept you are making a baseless assertion.

It’s not just hospital cases. The rate at which infections are increasing is also a threat to other essential services where high numbers of staff off sick will have an impact.

Given that it’s already spread globally, stopping all air travel would have near zero impact on its spread.

You are once again making a strawman argument. The vaccination programs are justified on the basis of their success against the varients for which they were designed to combat, they have done a remarkable job at reducing infections, serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths. The advent of a new variant is not in any sense a failure of the vaccines and vaccination programs.

Right, so people being diagnosed and treated for ‘Long COVID’ are liars and the doctors treating them are liars too. Added to which, in order to fit your conspiracy theory, they are all coordinating their lies. Long COVID is real. https://www.yourcovidrecovery.nhs.uk/what-is-covid-19/long-covid/

Yes it is very clear who created the videos, but I didn’t ask who created them, I asked where you ripped them from. We might then go directly to the source of where you are getting this content created by others. I suspect it’s arriving in your social media feed. Regardless, they’re not your opinions, they are the opinions of others presented in videos you’ve ripped.

LA8RAT we know you can cut and paste videos but how about providing a link to the source where you ripped them from? Then you might offer your opinion rather than the pre-canned opinions you are being fed and seem to think you must feed others.

The existing vaccines have done an exceptional job at reducing infections, serious illness, hospitalizations and deaths. A new variant of this wretched virus comes along and additional vaccinations are necessary, it’s they it is. Good luck with eschewing vaccination in favour of some health kick ideas.

If you don’t like panic then let’s hope the hospitals do no become overwhelmed.

This isn’t a visa issue.